# Time to kick out the second amendment
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-kick-out-the-second-amendment/261193
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [August 24, 2004, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-kick-out-the-second-amendment/261193 "2004-08-24T01:31:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 2
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### Author:  [@Kluge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kluge)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2004, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-kick-out-the-second-amendment/261193/121 "2004-08-25T06:07:18Z")
> [@SimonX](#):
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> Of course they couldn’t. That’s not what I said though.
> I said, “It also makes things more costly for the gov when it decides to misbehave.”
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> The price of misbehaving is that they will have to engage an armed insurrection and kill people.
> If you think that this has fostered resistance in iraq, imagine if instead of Najaf, they were fighting in Atlanta again.
> It makes it more costly for the gov.
Ah, now that makes a lot more sense. Pardon me for misunderstanding your meaning. However, it’s still pretty costly with unarmed resistance, especially in respect to international relations (sanctions, for example). Though you’re probably right, it would probably be more costly when you’ve got an armed population (sanctions would still probably be instituted, after all), but I don’t think by too much in relation to other factors. Still, it’s a good point which I had never considered.
> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#):
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> It doesn’t; I was remarking on a tangential subject, namely the general viability of an armed insurgency against the United States Government.
Fair enough. It is an interesting tangent, I suppose.
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### Author:  [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [August 25, 2004, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-kick-out-the-second-amendment/261193/122 "2004-08-25T15:53:09Z")
> [@Kaboodle](#):
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> On preview I see that **Shagnasty** has already said it but…
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> Have you shot anywhere other than the shooting range? With your hearing and eye protection with a clear path to a nicely lit target. Okay, there may be a little, maybe even a lot of noise from the other lanes but you can concentrate on your target.
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> In my home state of Ohio the only justification for shooting someone is if you are in fear for your life. Those kinds of conditions don’t contribute to highly accurate shooting.
Sorry about the delayed reply, but here it is.
Yes I have actually. I used to do a little bit of squirrel hunting, and could pop a squirrel, on the run with a revolver back then. I doubt I could do that now, but at one time I was pretty darn good, and was also pretty fast. As far as doing it with noise, distractions etc, I went to Circus Circus in Vegas. Lots of noise, flashing lights, people jostling etc. I won 3 giant stuffed animals before they asked me to “give someone else a chance”. My edge was, I was pointing instead of trying to use their crooked sights (wink wink). But I am completely with you, that the only reason to shoot a human being is in defense of your life. I’ve never been in that situation and don’t ever want to be.
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