# Time to start criticizing Jill Biden's wardrobe **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 6, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484 "2021-04-06T12:59:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/121 "2021-05-05T18:02:00Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Sometimes professional photographers make mistakes. I have no idea if I can find it again but I recall seeing a photo of a major league baseball player which made the subject look like an action figure. That can be deliberate. It’s [Miniature Faking.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniature_faking) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/122 "2021-05-05T18:21:36Z")
The player was Mike Rabelo of the 2006 Detroit Tigers. He didn’t look smaller, just plastic. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/123 "2021-05-05T18:29:46Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Love that first comment quoted that Melania has more class in her little finger. You mean the Melania who posed nude and did a lesbian photoshoot? Hey, at least she cured “boolying”. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/124 "2021-05-05T18:52:56Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > No one is saying this is a huge deal. Maybe I don’t follow the correct batshit-insane right-wing sources that you do, but no one is saying it’s any kind of deal at all, except for something to laugh about. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I hope it wasn’t done intentionally to make Joe look more vigorous or something… What the actual fuck? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/125 "2021-05-05T19:06:48Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Maybe I don’t follow the correct batshit-insane right-wing sources that you do, but no one is saying it’s any kind of deal at all, except for something to laugh about. The cite I used (and where I saw the story) was that bastion of alt-right thinking, the BBC. If you are going to take personal potshots, choose better targets. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/126 "2021-05-05T19:15:14Z")
Maybe you should read for comprehension, you right-wing moron. They were just commenting on how odd the picture is and referring to a tweet making a joke about it, just like I said. Then you talk about hoping it’s not some sinister plot by Biden, while saying “no one is saying it’s a huge deal.” It’s not “a deal” at all, just something to laugh about. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/127 "2021-05-05T19:19:56Z")
You’re precious when you’re angry. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/128 "2021-05-05T19:25:18Z")
Thanks! You’re a gullible idiot who gets stupider with each passing day. Why a Canadian would get so sucked in to American right-wing bullshit is beyond me. I mean, seriously, your suggestion that it’s even a possibility that this picture was taken this way to make Biden look more manly is some real Trump-level bullshit. You really should evaluate your news consumption, or maybe see a neurologist about impending dementia or paranoid delusions. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/129 "2021-05-05T20:35:11Z")
“There porposly making Bidins hands look bigerest to make fun of Glorious Leader TRUMP!” Try that Sam. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/130 "2021-05-06T00:08:36Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Why a Canadian would get so sucked in to American right-wing bullshit is beyond me. Canadians are humans and humans everywhere are dumb. Also there is Alberta, aka North Texas. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/131 "2021-05-06T00:12:04Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I hope it wasn’t done intentionally to make Joe look more vigorous or something Kinda like how you constantly come across as an imbecile to make the rest of us look like geniuses? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/132 "2021-05-06T00:31:35Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > This should have been easily correctable in Photoshop and should never have seen the light of day without correction. In theory any distortion is “correctable”, but I question that it’s “easily correctable” in this case. The problem is that any reverse distortion in Photoshop is going to be geometrically flat, whereas this distortion is heavily influenced by distance from the camera. Any corrections would have to be painstakingly manual, focusing on individual picture elements. It can be done, but wouldn’t be perfect. I would have used a normal lens of _at least_ 50mm effective FL (portrait lenses are typically 85mm or more to avoid this sort of crap) and, if not possible to get the whole scene in one frame, I would have either published them as two pics side by side or stitched them together in Photoshop. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/133 "2021-05-06T01:21:08Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > In theory any distortion is “correctable”, but I question that it’s “easily correctable” in this case. The problem is that any reverse distortion in Photoshop is going to be geometrically flat, whereas this distortion is heavily influenced by distance from the camera. Yup, you are right. I was a bit too flip in saying it was ‘easily’ correctable. I thought the new Photoshop 3D lens correction stuff would do it, but after thinking about what you wrote of course you are correct. Without the original 3D information, there’s no way to know what the correct proportions should be. I did play around with the image for about 15 minutes and managed to a passable re-sizing of Joe Biden by simply masking him, copying, then doing a content-aware fill behind him to eliminate him from the scene, then paste him back in and resize. I’m confident that if I spent an hour or two on it I could make it loo a hell of a lot better. But then you get into issues regarding heavily modifying the photo of a president. People would detect the Photoshop work and probably bitch about ‘changing history’ or some stupid thing. So I get why they didn’t do it. Also, Jill Biden is much harder because she partially obscures a painting, and there’s no way to know what the fill should look like. A real Photoshop artist could probably fix the photo up, but it’s not easy. So good call on that. I should have thought about it a bit more. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/134 "2021-05-06T01:26:38Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Kinda like how you constantly come across as an imbecile to make the rest of us look like geniuses? I’m fairly confident that you have never looked like a genius, with help or without. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/135 "2021-05-06T01:27:14Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I’m fairly confident that you have never looked like a genius, with help or without. One out of two ain’t bad. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/136 "2021-05-06T01:31:16Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Thanks! You’re a gullible idiot who gets stupider with each passing day. Why a Canadian would get so sucked in to American right-wing bullshit is beyond me. > > I mean, seriously, your suggestion that it’s even a possibility that this picture was taken this way to make Biden look more manly is some real Trump-level bullshit. You really should evaluate your news consumption, or maybe see a neurologist about impending dementia or paranoid delusions. Jesus, dude. Calm the hell down. I was just musing aloud. Like, “How did they miss this? It couldn’t be intentional, could it? Nah… It must be a screwup. But how did no one catch it?” That’s all. No partisanship intended. This isn’t Biden’s fault. It’s just a fuck-up by a photographer. And it wouldn’t be his fault even if some overzealous production monkey decided to make him look more heroic or something. Not that I think that happened, but the error was pretty in your face and made me wonder about the process behind it. Now take your meds and go lie down before you get spittle all over your keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/137 "2021-05-06T01:53:22Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Jesus, dude. Calm the hell down. I was just musing aloud. Like, “How did they miss this? It couldn’t be intentional, could it? Nah… It must be a screwup. But how did no one catch it?” Your musing was incredibly stupid. Forget partisanship, what idiot would think making someone look like a freakish giant would improve their image? You weren’t “musing aloud” like you muttered an idle thought while raking leaves, you posted it on a message board. It was incredibly stupid whatever your motives were. You deserve the criticism. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/138 "2021-05-06T02:28:23Z")
On NBC News, they recreated the photo with members of their staff. The lens and camera angles, plus the Carter’s are kind of small people, partly due to age. But I think Biden should work with that trick and stage photos where his hands look **HUGE** , like giant hands. It would be hysterical. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/139 "2021-05-06T04:56:40Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > But I think Biden should work with that trick and stage photos where his hands look **HUGE** , like giant hands. It would be hysterical. And such photos should be accompanied by a few like these, for purposes of comparison: [![](https://i.imgur.com/uj2Hf19.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/uj2Hf19.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484/140 "2021-05-06T05:28:14Z")
What’s all the hate on the Carter photo? They look _adorable_! Too bad if Martin Scrocese couldn’t have done some depth of field stuff with it. Maybe them sitting on the Bidens’ laps? Or if Major and the other one were in the photo, flanking them, but looking much larger than both couples. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-start-criticizing-jill-bidens-wardrobe/939484.md?page=8)