That’s entirely possible. I just did a quick search on Newegg and ballparked some retail prices .
I assume the answer to the GTX 1060 question is “yes” (at least for mine) since the PC I ordered comes with one.
By “nerd law” I mean “gamers” hating because they aren’t the “cool brand” or that they are substandard at some esoteric graphics benchmarking that I can’t tell the difference on anyway.
But if it’s an overhyped overpriced piece of crap, that’s what I want to know.
From the reviews I’ve read and what I can tell, I am pretty much the target audience for the XPS SE. http://www.computershopper.com/desktops/reviews/dell-xps-tower-special-edition-8910
“all-around, high-performance PCs to appeal to power users—gamers and creative professionals alike. If, say, you create multimedia content by day and play intense 3D shooters by night, the XPS line might be a good fit for you.”
It seems to have plenty of room for additional HDD, GPU and memory (and realistically, what the heck else am I going to “upgrade”?)
And I’m not in the market for a $2,000 - $8,000 gaming rig.
I might check out HP again. I did like my old one…right up until the point where it inexplicably stopped working.
Because I’m a man and cannot rest knowing there is a better version or upgrade available. Also I think this one comes with Windows 10 Pro.
Of course. If they sell a PC with a 1060 then it will work. No question. This person has an Inspiron and its specs are as I listed them. Maybe a 1060 will work on it but I an not confident about that. Never really know till you try I guess.
I get it and as I said I professionally recommended Dell for years to businesses and family and friends. In fact I still buy Dell. As shitty as they are I have not found better for the price and basic PC tasks. For most of the staff where I work they do the job and are cheap.
That said when it came to buying a video editing PC for our office my boss REALLY pushed for Dell and and fought tooth and nail to not buy Dell (literally had a yelling meeting where I had to push back at my boss…not fun). Five years on the PC I built has worked like a champ and paid for itself many times over and my boss still will not acknowledge it.
If you are happy with your PC and it does what you want it to do then it is not an overhyped piece of crap. The only place you might see problems is if (when) you want to upgrade something. You might find that more difficult with that PC and find you need a whole new PC rather than being able to upgrade.
Seriously, your PC sounds like a good one. With that 1060 you should be able to play anything on that PC. You’ll have to dial it back from “Ultra” settings but not much and frankly Ultra settings are a bit overrated. You can get almost (almost) indistinguishable results at high settings and have a fantastic gaming experience.
Says the man who has a 1060 instead of a 1080Ti.
More seriously though it is not a question of “better”. It is a question of features. Pro does more things than Home edition but if you do not need them then it is a wasted feature and money for you (e.g. VPN support). If you do need them then great! Nothing wrong with Windows Pro whatsoever. If you can make use of those features it makes great sense.
PSU can stay. IIRC, it’s around 600W, so power issues aren’t a big concern. So case, motherboard, processor/heatsink, video card, RAM, and probably a new SSD. All the peripherals are in good shape. With a new motherboard, I’ll need the OS too, I guess - why is Win7 more than 10. I don’t want to upgrade, I don’t, I don’t, I DON’T!
Cost-wise, I went to hell with it and went top of the line, which is FAR more than I need. My current system has performed fantastically so far, and had I not made mistakes like not giving my OS a large enough partition (should have just given it the entire drive), I would have zero complaints about the PC itself. The cheapo monitor that just went on the fritz…well, that was a derp, even if the other one is working fine.
That I don’t know. From what I understand, XPS is the “performance” line compared to Inspiron (but not as much as the Alienware gaming line). But unless the card physically doesn’t fit in the box (which it may not, given all the plastic fins and spoilers and other decorative crap they stick on them) I would think it should be ok.
How so? And is that unique to Dell? I feel like it’s more or less impossible to have the PC of Theseus where you just keep swapping out parts forever. At some point, the technology changes and components no longer fit in your motherboard or the only way to upgrade the PC is to change the motherboard and chip set and then it’s just basically buying a new PC anyway.
It is a power issue and thanks for making me look it up again. He has a 240W PSU in that PC and the GTX-1060 requires a 400W PSU.
You’re right. I have done a few builds where I could not salvage much from my previous system. I often wonder if changes in RAM or CPU and so on are necessary such that they you need to keep moving to the next new form factor.
But the PSU and case and optical drives and RAM (maybe RAM) and heatsink and keyboard and mouse and monitor and so on can move on with the new PC which can be a substantial savings over having to buy it all.
well if you want real geeks to chime in go to the pc board on www.gamefaqs.com these guys make car geeks look tame …https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/916373-pc just put in " rate my future build " or something like it as the topic
I actually decided to cancel the order from Dell and just get the same exact computer on sale from Best Buy (who I hate FYI), but without the 1060 GPU or SSD drive. So instead I’ll either just use whatever Radeon card that comes with it or throw in my current 960 which worked fine.
The advantage is I pay $1000 to get the PC now rather than $1500 and change to get it in maybe a week. And for $500 I could get the 1060 and SSD anyway, but I might wait like 3-6 months until the next one comes out.
I swear to God, all the minutiae around buying this stuff is maddening. And it’s all marketed so that there is always one more stat to make you think you need to throw a bit more cash at it. Even just trying to price the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5, there’s like 5 companies, at least 2 GB sizes, one fan or two, and who knows what other critical optional component that will enable you to see in 3D for an extra $50.
That’s just Nvidia playing safe. The PSU required depends upon the CPU. The GTX 1060 actually peaks at 143W. A typical CPU uses 95W, so that’s 238W before other components (SSD, motherboard, HDD, USB). You could get away with a 300W PSU. Some CPUs - like the Xeon E7-8894 v4 (a snip at US$9000!) - use 165W or more and for those, you would indeed require a 400W PSU. Other CPUs use less power - the Intel i7-7700T, for instance, uses 35W versus the 7700K’s 91W - and a 240W PSU might just cope.
Note though that PSUs operate at their most efficient when not running near 100%.
As I noted they had a 240W PSU. Nowhere near enough.
Also, you too casually mentioned that PSUs don’t run well at 100%. Indeed it is generally considered bad to run them over 90% and I would be safe and say don’t go over 85% capacity. Even good ones (although good ones will generally hold up a lot better near capacity than bad PSUs).
The thought of running a Dell PSU over 85% for long stretches literally scares me.
Best to ask here or on other message boards if you get frazzled (Reddit has a good sub-Reddit for this stuff).
If you say what types of games you enjoy and/or what other things you use your PC for you can get some good advice (wisdom of the crowd).
If nothing else remember trying to nitpick through a dozen different video card manufacturers can drive you nuts. The reality is they all have the same base reference and differentiate on extras like fans and bling. Some might perform better than others but the reality is they are all pretty close.
Unless you are a min/max sort (in this case max) who will stress and pay for that 1% extra bit of performance for bragging rights you need not stress too much over it.
I get being frazzled, but it does seem easy to figure that more fans are better (if you don’t mind the noise) and that higher memory is better. The part that would bother me is knowing who has the best quality, and considering all the tradeoffs.
I fortunately don’t ever look for top of the line stuff, and just get what I do get when its on sale. But I’m also not a big gamer–and I’m more likely to play older games when I do play. Especially since I never buy games that aren’t on some equivalent of the Steam sale.
HardOCP have conducted tests which indicate your fears are groundless. As long as we’re not talking no-name Chinese knock-offs. Yes, they’re not their most efficient at 100% but they run just fine.
Yup. Standard pitfall in buying/building a system is “For $30 more…” – you can always add another memory stick or get a slightly larger drive or go to another graphics card, etc until your $900 system costs $1,300. Which is why I’m always a little leery of tech forums because you can easily be “The Z45 is okay but I’d spend the extra $40 for the Z47-A which will…” talked out of your budget in no time by well meaning sincere people. Budget discipline is a must.
I have to say Im reasonably happy with my choice. The one thing I need is more memory though. The main culprit is the city builder Cities Skylines with a dozen mods and a thousand assets. Upgrading my old system from 12 to 28 gb of ram was like night and day. 16 is apparently not enough. I wouldn’t care but I JUST bought $100 of DDR3 RAM that is now USELESS!!
