# Time to yenter about all the upcoming Wii games again

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 16, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626 "2010-03-16T04:21:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/41 "2010-03-22T06:40:27Z")

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“Yenta” is Yiddish for “to gossip,” (it can also be a noun; one who gossips.)

“To yenta about,” with the intervocalic R, common in New York, where there are a lot of Yiddish-speakers, sounds like “to yenter about.”

It just means let’s talk about all the gossip surrounding the upcoming Wii releases.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/42 "2010-03-22T07:27:26Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> What do people think of Sin and Punishment 2? For that matter, has anyone played the first one?

I watched my friend play some S&P 2 at GDC and it looked pretty fun–he loved the hell out of it.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/43 "2010-03-22T08:53:37Z")

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Thanks! I had an inkling it might be Yiddish 🙂

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/44 "2010-03-22T11:45:08Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> What do people think of Sin and Punishment 2? For that matter, has anyone played the first one?

The first one is great (and available on the Virtual Console).

However, the graphics look absolutely ancient and its clear the game was originally released on the N64 as the Classic Controller button mapping doesn’t feel completely natural.

I’m very interesting to see what playing the game with a controller its designed for does for it.

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**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/45 "2010-03-22T16:44:21Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Am I right that the way they want you to control Monster Hunter Tri is with the Classic Controller? If so, I think that’s awesome. I always get so frustrated when a person or a developer says “oh, that game just couldn’t work with the wiimote.” The Classic Controller is just as capable as Xbox/PS3’s controllers, if I’m not mistaken. It might be down the L1/L2 buttons (?) but come on. Pretending it doesn’t exist is silly. If MHT is a hit with it, it could really cause a paradigm shift.

I think the reasoning here is that most people who bought a Wii bought it because of the Wiimote. (or, possibly, because they HAD TO HAVE the Nintendo franchises.). If you’re going to make a game that just uses a controller, why would you make it for a game system where the majority of people bought the system for games that don’t use a controller?

Sure, you could say that the Wii has a huge install base, so you can theoretically move more units than you could with a PS3/360 title, but the huge majority of those users bought the console to play games like Wii Sports and Boomblox, and therefore aren’t going to be interested in your controller-based “oldschool” game.

I’d be very interested to see a statistic reflecting how many Wii owners actually OWN a classic controller. Probably nearly all the “classic gamers” who bought the system do, but the “Wii sports” crowd almost undoubtedly does not.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/46 "2010-03-22T17:00:35Z")

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> [@Airk](#):
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> I think the reasoning here is that most people who bought a Wii bought it because of the Wiimote. (or, possibly, because they HAD TO HAVE the Nintendo franchises.). If you’re going to make a game that just uses a controller, why would you make it for a game system where the majority of people bought the system for games that don’t use a controller?
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> Sure, you could say that the Wii has a huge install base, so you can theoretically move more units than you could with a PS3/360 title, but the huge majority of those users bought the console to play games like Wii Sports and Boomblox, and therefore aren’t going to be interested in your controller-based “oldschool” game.
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> I’d be very interested to see a statistic reflecting how many Wii owners actually OWN a classic controller. Probably nearly all the “classic gamers” who bought the system do, but the “Wii sports” crowd almost undoubtedly does not.

You could very well be right. Personally, though, I had zero interest in Wii until I saw a trailer for Mario Galaxy. I’m not sure if I even knew how it was controlled. I was way out of the gaming loop at that time. My gaming peaked sometime in the SNES days, and then fluttered through the N64 and Xbox1 years, and now it’s on the rise again.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/47 "2010-03-22T17:56:50Z")

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I made a convert this weekend (sorta). A friend got a Wii a month or so ago, and I insisted he play Galaxy. He’s the type of guy that can rarely be convinced of something he’s pre-judged. I told him that the controls are a little different, and to push through until he beats the learning curve on it - and to also skip any level that begins to frustrate him.

He texted me at 2:30am Saturday to say he was still playing, and that it’s the best Mario game of all time.

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**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/48 "2010-03-22T18:12:41Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> You could very well be right. Personally, though, I had zero interest in Wii until I saw a trailer for Mario Galaxy. I’m not sure if I even knew how it was controlled. I was way out of the gaming loop at that time. My gaming peaked sometime in the SNES days, and then fluttered through the N64 and Xbox1 years, and now it’s on the rise again.

Right; But you’re displaying every sign of being the “classic gamer” that will own the control pad - you’ve been in the hobby for a while, you have fond memories of other Nintendo systems, and the game that finally sold you on the system had Mario in the title. You’re a textbook case here.

What I’m interested in is how well games that use controllers will do with the “stereotypical” Wii Sports set - which is to say, all the casual gamers that Nintendo has apparently brought into the market, for whom the Wii is their very first game system. Do they have any interest in playing controller based games on their Wii? My gut instinct says that for most of them, the answer is probably ‘no’, or they would’ve entered the hobby before the Wii.

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**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/49 "2010-03-22T21:11:29Z")

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> [@Airk](#):
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> Do they have any interest in playing controller based games on their Wii? My gut instinct says that for most of them, the answer is probably ‘no’, or they would’ve entered the hobby before the Wii.

Once they own a Wii, the entry bar is lower. Instead of buying a game system they don’t know if they’ll like, they only need to buy a controller.

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**Author:** ![Airk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Airk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airk)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/50 "2010-03-23T17:43:21Z")

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> [@ZenBeam](#):
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> Once they own a Wii, the entry bar is lower. Instead of buying a game system they don’t know if they’ll like, they only need to buy a controller.

This is true, but it’s unlikely (though possible) that they were somehow completely insulated from game consoles prior to purchasing a Wii - so the odds are they could have tried out a console at a friend’s or at a store.

It is a lower barrier of entry monetarily, but only because they’ve already made the major outlay.

So yeah. I’d be really curious to see numbers, which, I’m sure, I won’t ever see. =/

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**Author:** ![PopeJewish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@PopeJewish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PopeJewish)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/51 "2010-03-24T02:39:37Z")

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> [@Spectralist](#):
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> Well that sounds horrible. Sucker that I am I’m still probably going to end up buying it.

it should also be noted that Metroid Other M is being done by Team Ninja, so my expectations are incredibly low. DOA was an ok series, but I hated Ninja Gaiden. Basically they do middling games, imo, and that doesn’t sound good for MOM (seriously people, that’s a great acronym for a game and no one’s using it!)

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/52 "2010-03-24T02:41:06Z")

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Go figure. I thought Ninja Gaiden was insane fun (and insane hard). I’m looking forward to Other M.

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**Author:** ![Terraplane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@Terraplane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terraplane)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/53 "2010-03-24T03:12:50Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Go figure. I thought Ninja Gaiden was insane fun (and insane hard). I’m looking forward to Other M.

I agree. I can understand if hack and slash isn’t your thing but for that style of game I thought Ninja Gaiden was fantastic.

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**Author:** ![PopeJewish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@PopeJewish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PopeJewish)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/54 "2010-03-24T03:41:32Z")

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> [@Terraplane](#):
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> I agree. I can understand if hack and slash isn’t your thing but for that style of game I thought Ninja Gaiden was fantastic.

I admittedly never played the first one, but the second one was lacking in every way, imo. It wasn’t nearly as good at anything as earlier God of War or Devil May Cry games

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/55 "2010-03-24T04:29:48Z")

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> [@PopeJewish](#):
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> MOM (seriously people, that’s a great acronym for a game and no one’s using it!)

I think the title is already a pretty thinly veiled reference to “Mother.”

> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Go figure. I thought Ninja Gaiden was insane fun (and insane hard). I’m looking forward to Other M.

Did you ever see the Penny Arcade where they’re playing Ninja Gaiden on hard and the ninja actually comes and kills them? 😃

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/time-to-yenter-about-all-the-upcoming-wii-games-again/532626/56 "2010-03-24T04:35:43Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Did you ever see the Penny Arcade where they’re playing Ninja Gaiden on hard and the ninja actually comes and kills them? 😃

[Phil Ken Sebben]

[HA-ha! Hard!](http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/3/8/)

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