# "Timeless" New Time Travel Show **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 4, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613 "2016-10-04T03:05:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/41 "2016-10-06T13:34:36Z")
I see they’re doing a Lincoln episode next. Has anybody ever done a story where a time traveler trying to prevent the assassination of Lincoln bumps into a bunch of other time travelers trying to do exactly the same thing? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/42 "2016-10-06T19:18:48Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > OK show, but I have a hard time believing they could pick a jail cell with the wire from a bra. One heck of a painful underwire… > [@](#): > > And what are they doing holding a man and woman in the same cell? I thought about it and decided it was meant to be a commentary on the racial element again. > [@](#): > > But if it gets the historian out of her bra, I’m willing to look the other way. The irritating bit here is that any self-respecting female can get her bra off _underneath_ her shirt and then hand it out under the waist or through the sleeve. We learn it young. > [@](#): > > I’m betting that we will eventually learn that the “terrorist” is the hero, and those that sent the trio team back are actually the villains. This seems likely. Anyone else curious who the fiance is? The “villain” perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/43 "2016-10-06T19:30:35Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > The irritating bit here is that any self-respecting female can get her bra off _underneath_ her shirt and then hand it out under the waist or through the sleeve. We learn it young. By golly, you are right. It impressed in when I first saw Mrs. Plant-to-be (v.3.0) do that. Rather, it continues to impress me. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/44 "2016-10-06T19:42:01Z")
Liked the show. My only complaint was that the time capsule was WAY too easy to steal. I mean come on. ---
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/45 "2016-10-06T20:07:15Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > I see they’re doing a Lincoln episode next. Has anybody ever done a story where a time traveler trying to prevent the assassination of Lincoln bumps into a bunch of other time travelers trying to do exactly the same thing? The short story “Wikihistory” is a bit in that vein; all the new time travellers keep trying to go back to bump off Hitler. > **[Wikihistory - Reactor](https://reactormag.com/wikihistory/)** > > Wikihistory by Desmond Warzel ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/46 "2016-10-06T20:23:58Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > I see they’re doing a Lincoln episode next. Has anybody ever done a story where a time traveler trying to prevent the assassination of Lincoln bumps into a bunch of other time travelers trying to do exactly the same thing? How many stories are there where different groups of time travelers bump into each other, period? I know of the “red leapers” in _Quantum Leap_ (plus there was a second “white leaper” in the finale), the multiple Stewies and Brians in the _Family Guy_ episode “Back to the Pilot” (although they’re not there by coincidence; each is there to prevent an earlier traveler from doing something that will mess things up), and I think the short story “The Men who Murdered Mohammed” had something along these lines as well. ---
**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/47 "2016-10-06T20:59:06Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Liked the show. My only complaint was that the time capsule was WAY too easy to steal. I mean come on. True. But they had an instruction book from the future, explaining how they already did steal it. That helped a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/48 "2016-10-06T21:08:47Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > I see they’re doing a Lincoln episode next. Has anybody ever done a story where a time traveler trying to prevent the assassination of Lincoln bumps into a bunch of other time travelers trying to do exactly the same thing? I don’t know, but I do remember a short story in which travelers from various eras trying to assassinate Hitler were opposed by others trying to prevent his assassination. And in James P. Hogan’s novel _The Proteus Operation_, a group of time travelers were sent into the past to supply Winston Churchill with the information he needs to oppose Adolf Hitler, who was an insignificant fanatic until another group of travelers helped him rise to power. ---
**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/49 "2016-10-06T21:12:01Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > I know of the “red leapers” in _Quantum Leap_ (plus there was a second “white leaper” in the finale), I remember two “evil leapers,” Alia and Zoe, but I never heard them called “red leapers” before. And though the finale was very confusing, I don’t remember any “white leaper” in it. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/50 "2016-10-07T18:11:43Z")
Someone should start a support group, Time Travelers Anonymous: “Hi, my name is Lucy, and I changed history so some things that were bad were improved, but other things that were good went bad.” “Hi, Lucy. My name is Barry…” ---
**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/51 "2016-10-07T18:32:43Z")
I remember an analysis that Larry Niven once wrote. Either time travel is possible, or it isn’t. If it is, then either it’s possible to change past events, or it isn’t. If it is, then time travelers _will_ change the past, over and over again – until they end up with a timeline in which time travel was never invented. So we have nothing to worry about. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/52 "2016-10-07T18:32:58Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > Someone should start a support group, Time Travelers Anonymous: “Hi, my name is Lucy, and I changed history so some things that were bad were improved, but other things that were good went bad.” > > “Hi, Lucy. My name is Barry…” “Support Group fro Time Travelers and the People Who Would Love Them if They Hadn’t Been Erased From Time” ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/53 "2016-10-07T18:43:32Z")
I was sort of on the fence about it until the end when she found the “present” was altered. I think this show has good potential. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/54 "2016-10-07T19:57:43Z")
Is it me, or is the prototype time machine they’re using have a Mobiüs Strip-like belt running around it. If so, I think that’s kinda cool. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/55 "2016-10-08T01:43:02Z")
So you hire this historian to travel back in time, presumably for her knowlege of history, then after her first mission, history has changed enough to make her expertise questionable at best on anything happening after the Hindenburg? Good move. :smack: > [@aceplace57](#): > > I hope every episode won’t include discrimination against the black character. That could easily be over done. Boss: “you know why it has to be you” Guy: “Yeah so we can make some point about America never being so great, right?” And it’s already well past getting over done on CW’s Legends of Tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/56 "2016-10-08T02:12:56Z")
When will she meet Khan Noonian Singh? ---
**Author:** ![Santos\_L\_Halper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/santos_l_halper/32/1_2.png) [@Santos\_L\_Halper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Santos_L_Halper)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/57 "2016-10-08T05:02:40Z")
I thought it was fairly good and will keep watching. I did like that stuff had changed when they got back - it can potentially make the ongoing story a lot more interesting than if they returned everything to the way it was supposed to be at the end of each episode. > [@](#): > > Delta Force Guy: So we can’t go back to '37, give it another shot? > > Rufus: No. Remember, we can’t double back to any place where we meet ourselves. There are no do overs. The next lines should’ve been: Lucy: Yeah, but… someone else could just go, couldn’t they? Rufus: Huh. I hadn’t thought of that… ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/58 "2016-10-08T12:03:35Z")
I liked it enough to keep watching. I was also yelling “throw the bomb out the window!” If not actually bad, the good guys definitely have an alternate agenda. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/60 "2016-10-11T19:10:22Z")
> [@Santos\_L\_Halper](#): > > I thought it was fairly good and will keep watching. I did like that stuff had changed when they got back - it can potentially make the ongoing story a lot more interesting than if they returned everything to the way it was supposed to be at the end of each episode. > > The next lines should’ve been: > > Lucy: Yeah, but… someone else could just go, couldn’t they? > > Rufus: Huh. I hadn’t thought of that… Not in the same machine, they couldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613/61 "2016-10-11T19:51:21Z")
I liked last night episode. I really liked that they have some feelings about changing the past. To put right what once went wrong so to speak and are torn on it. I’ll definitely watch the entire season at this point unless for some reason it takes a serious nose dive in quality. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/timeless-new-time-travel-show/767613.md?page=4)