# Tiny anomalies/artifacts found on the ground in Apollo photos **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 18, 2001, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835 "2001-08-18T00:27:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/341 "2001-09-04T23:26:20Z")
> [@](#): > > Actually, the photographic evidence proves my theory. I can pretty much put this steam roller on auto pilot and take a nap while it rolls all over you and the others here who are incapable of being forthright. Because of thart, I believe you are the proper representatives for NASA. That it, you deserve rocks trown at you: [http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb\_2.htm?aol10130](http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast23feb_2.htm?aol10130) > [@](#): > > Indeed, says McKay, faking a Moon rock well enough to hoodwink an international army of scientists might be more difficult than the Manhattan Project. “It would be easier to just go to the Moon and get one,” he quipped. > And therein lies an original idea: Did NASA go to the Moon to collect props for a staged Moon landing? It’s an interesting twist on the conspiracy theory that TV producers might consider for their next episode of the Moon Hoax. > “I have here in my office a 10-foot high stack of scientific books full of papers about the Apollo Moon rocks,” added McKay. “Researchers in thousands of labs have examined Apollo Moon samples – not a single paper challenges their origin! And these aren’t all NASA employees, either. We’ve loaned samples to scientists in dozens of countries [who have no reason to cooperate in any hoax].” NASA: Oh my! That is right! We collected moon rocks and we forgot to take our cameras! Gee, we feel dumb. I thought you were just rude and dishonest here but elswere in the boards you are not doing good either: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85267](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85267) scroll down for the confrontations in a different font. And there is now a pit tread in your honor too Seethruart: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85325](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85325) I repeat: I see you skipped more posts, cherry picking whom to answer is the best way to alienate a future jury. Again the courts will certify that your talk is the cheap one here. You have not checked the negatives and you have only blurry (fake) pictures enhanced by you. And I showed that you are lying even in your exposition of your facts, Nobody here or in the courts will think that you are right in your assumption that children will read in 5 years about the faked Apollo missions (want to bet on it?). You do not care what we say; unfortunately virtually all here can spot fraudelent evidence. I do not think NASA needs my defense, besides it was Kodak who furnished the cameras and film, are they liars also Seethruart? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/342 "2001-09-04T23:29:09Z")
I was going to come in here an try take you at face value. But I see that you truly are a freaking nut job. What’s next? Vampires? Atlantis? The Bat-Boy? Is _The Weekly World News_ your Bible? Listen, you keep spouting drivel, and when you’re asked for proof, you say, “Just look at the photos.” We say, “We looked at the photos, they prove nothing.” You say, “You’re denying the truth.” We say, “Show us proof of ‘the truth’”. You say, “Just look at the photos.” We say, “We looked at the photos, they prove nothing.” You say, “You’re denying the truth.” We say, “Show us proof of ‘the truth’”. You say, “Just look at the photos.” We bang our hangs against the wall and declare you the fruit-cake of the century. I’m not trying to drive you around the bend, but this is maddening. In all seriousness, take Cervaise’s advice - seek professional help. ---
**Author:** ![Seethruart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Seethruart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seethruart)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/343 "2001-09-04T23:33:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Scott \* > \*\*So all I need to prove a theory is a photograph? > > Scott \*\* No, not just any photograph, but when you get an official US Government/NASA photograph that has been claimed to be authentic, then you have real evidence. That’s what I have. However, it turns out the official US GOVERNMENT/NASA “authentic” photographic evidence is, only evidence of a fake. Not only is it solid evidence of a fake, it’s the strangest evidence you will ever see. NASA did a much better job than those adolescent girls did of pasting things onto a photograph. Those little girls had a lot of people believing them too, but the truth finally came out. It seems eventually the truth comes out of everything. It took thirty years for the truth to come out of Apollo photos, but it finally did. 🙂 Seethruart ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Onimous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Ann\_Onimous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Onimous)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/344 "2001-09-04T23:36:17Z")
I don’t need to see any photos at all to believe people walked on the moon. I’ve met an astronaut who was aboard Apollo 13. I’ve listened to him speak about the excitement and the perils they went through while on that mission. The look on his face and the way he conveys the story tell me it’s true. You can call me naive, stupid, whatever. In this case, I’ll trust a man who has actually been there. ---
**Author:** ![Seethruart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Seethruart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seethruart)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/345 "2001-09-04T23:37:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Juliana \* > \*\*I don’t need to see any photos at all to believe people walked on the moon. I’ve met an astronaut who was aboard Apollo 13. I’ve listened to him speak about the excitement and the perils they went through while on that mission. The look on his face and the way he conveys the story tell me it’s true. > > You can call me naive, stupid, whatever. In this case, I’ll trust a man who has actually been there. \*\* Apollo 13 never landed on the moon. No secret about that. 🙂 Seethruart ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/346 "2001-09-04T23:38:48Z")
Well this is getting bigger: So you have not checked the negatives and you have only blurry (fake) NASA pictures enhanced by you. ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/347 "2001-09-04T23:42:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Seethruart \* > **I take it you are of the belief that, earth humans are the only intelligent life in the galaxy, and there was never anyone on this earth before the indians.** I believe there is no good evidence for the existence of extra-terrestrial intelligent life. Your pictures certainly don’t qualify as evidence. ---
**Author:** ![NPavelka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/edb3f5/32.png) [@NPavelka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NPavelka)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/348 "2001-09-04T23:44:13Z")
Oh well… I guess I was right the first time this is a subject to be made fun of and not taken seriously. I thought by giving you a chance to talk seriously you might come out of this delusional little world of “I’m right because I saw something”… Also I expect no one to give me credance because I am a scientist… my field of expertiese (biochemistry)is even far from this topic but science and scientific theory are of intrest to me. Sorry to tell you this but 90% of then time more information can be gained from a cahrt or graph than a picture. If you want to do a real study of these photos do as so many have sugested and try to obtain real high resolution pictures and subject those to analysis. Until then… go back to living in your mother’s basment and wearing your tin foil hat to protect you from the HARP project’s continuining research on Tesla’s death ray. ---
**Author:** ![Seethruart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Seethruart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seethruart)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/349 "2001-09-04T23:47:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GIGObuster \* > \*\*Well this is getting bigger: So you have not checked the negatives and you have only blurry (fake) NASA pictures enhanced by you. \*\* They could be “enlarged” by anyone and they would get the same results. I already know that, because people have already done it. In fact, I tell people to do just that at my site. Download it and enlarge it yourself. Even NASA has enlarged these photos and have gotten the same results. I have linked to one of their enlarged photos here, and I also have crops from that photo posted in a folder on my site. You really wish this reality would go away don’t you? It won’t. 🙂 Seethruart ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/350 "2001-09-04T23:54:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Seethruart \* > \*\* > You really wish this reality would go away don’t you? > \*\* We just wish you’d go away. :wally ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/351 "2001-09-04T23:58:42Z")
We are not going away either. Well, it is time to stop arguing and wait if Seethruart profecies will become true (want to bet?) So I will stick with educational neat stories: So what were Americans and Rusians doing during the moon landing?: [http://www.wherewereyou.com/frames/war.html](http://www.wherewereyou.com/frames/war.html) > [@](#): > > I was a junior Navy officer on a highly classified intelligence mission near Southeast Asia. We were cruising on the high seas and a Soviet “fishing trawler” was following us - as usual. They were about five or six miles astern. We had all been listening to radio broadcasts about the moon landing all day. When Neil Armstrong finally set foot on the moon and broadcast those memorable words, you can bet we were all filled with pride. > > Our pride was even greater a few minutes later when we noticed that the Soviet trawler was sending us an old fashioned flashing light signal. We were all high-tech and it took us some time to find an old “radioman” that could read flashing light. He was very much out of practice, but after asking them to resend the message numerous times we were finally able to read the message. > > “Congratulations, Americans!” I will never forget the moment. - Larry J. Wine, Marketing Executive ---
**Author:** ![Seethruart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Seethruart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seethruart)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/352 "2001-09-04T23:58:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jack Batty \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Seethruart \* > > \*\* > > You really wish this reality would go away don’t you? > > \*\* > > We just wish you’d go away. > :wally \*\* I know you do. The truth hurts people like you doesn’t it? It’s almost like a disease to you, isn’t it? You try to stay away from it. I’m not going anywhere, in spite people like yourself. Get used to it. 🙂 Seethruart ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2001, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/353 "2001-09-04T23:59:13Z")
How do you know that the people who seem to be supporting you aren’t pulling your leg? Guy: That Seethru is an idiot. I’m gonna send him a photo, tell him there’s an alien spacecraft in it and see if the doofus believes me… You: Oh, goody! Another friend! Someone who sees the truth. _You post the photo and the name of your new “friend.”_ Guy: Good God Almighty, he IS an idiot… It’s possible, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/354 "2001-09-05T00:09:39Z")
:eek: Omygawd, [They’re multiplying!!!](http://www.dreamwater.com/nesjim/UltimateList/liststatementpage.html) :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Seethruart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Seethruart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seethruart)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/355 "2001-09-05T00:14:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jab1 \* > \*\*How do you know that the people who seem to be supporting you aren’t pulling your leg? > > Guy: That Seethru is an idiot. I’m gonna send him a photo, tell him there’s an alien spacecraft in it and see if the doofus believes me… > \*\* You can send me any photo you like. You will find my vision and awareness are very acute, and have grown even more acute in the last several months. If it’s something bogus then, you will not have pulled my leg for long. The people who do “admit” to seeing the long range anomalies, know it’s reality, and have no need to pull my leg. I know what forum I am in. I am in a space science/astronomy forum where no one can admit to anything that doesn’t fit into their cozy little fantatheories. Admitting that NASA faked the Apollo photos would rock the little worlds of some people here. I guess that’s why I am here, just to let you know that, I and the truth are going to rock your little NASA world so hard that, you will either fall off or jump off. I don’t think anything less would be acceptable. The price for the Apollo lie has to be paid, and I don’t believe there is a heavy enough punishment to fit the crime. So no matter what happens it will not be too extreme. Enemies of truth only deserve to be trampled upon and defeated. 🙂 Seethruart ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/356 "2001-09-05T00:19:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Seethruart \* > **I know what forum I am in. I am in a space science/astronomy forum…** No you aren’t. Space science and astronomy are incidental to the purpose of this board. You’ve posted in other threads; if you haven’t figured out that this isn’t just a space science board, you’re not paying attention. This lack of perception on your part doesn’t help your case about the photographs. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/357 "2001-09-05T00:21:00Z")
A movie to see: The Dish. [http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/04.05.01/dish-0114.html](http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/04.05.01/dish-0114.html) > [@](#): > > The Dish is about a dozen times better than The Castle. Set in 1969, it tells the true, if heavily fictionalized, story of the Parkes radio telescope, which proved essential for bringing down images of the first moon landing. A skeleton crew (in real life, there were some 20 engineers and physicists) holds down the fort under the attention of a vaguely menacing NASA liaison (Patrick Warburton). Power failures, political pressure and an unexpected cyclone seem ready to overcome the transmission. ---
**Author:** ![Seethruart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@Seethruart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seethruart)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/358 "2001-09-05T00:25:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ultrafilter \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Seethruart \* > > **I know what forum I am in. I am in a space science/astronomy forum…** > > No you aren’t. Space science and astronomy are incidental to the purpose of this board. You’ve posted in other threads; if you haven’t figured out that this isn’t just a space science board, you’re not paying attention. > > This lack of perception on your part doesn’t help your case about the photographs. \*\* You are in this thread now, not another thread. This thread pertains to NASA faking Apollo photos, and the people in this thread have been defending NASA and the faked moon landings. A supposed scientist just posted here. This lack of perception on your part, doesn’t help your efforts to continue the Apollo fantasy. 🙂 Seethruart ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/359 "2001-09-05T00:29:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Seethruart \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by ultrafilter \* > > \*\* > > > > > [@](#): > > > > > > \*Originally posted by Seethruart \* > > > **I know what forum I am in. I am in a space science/astronomy forum…** > > > > No you aren’t. Space science and astronomy are incidental to the purpose of this board. You’ve posted in other threads; if you haven’t figured out that this isn’t just a space science board, you’re not paying attention. > > > > This lack of perception on your part doesn’t help your case about the photographs. \*\* > > You are in this thread now, not another thread. This thread pertains to NASA faking Apollo photos, and the people in this thread have been defending NASA and the faked moon landings. A supposed scientist just posted here. This lack of perception on your part, doesn’t help your efforts to continue the Apollo fantasy. > \*\* If you meant “thread”, you should have said “thread”. If I have unfairly characterized your intention, I apologize. I’m especially curious as to why the Russians would acknowledge receiving signals from the moon. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2001, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835/360 "2001-09-05T00:31:19Z")
According to Seethruart Boeing is another liar: [http://www.boeing.com/news/feature/apollo11/iworked.html](http://www.boeing.com/news/feature/apollo11/iworked.html) > [@](#): > > Those were exciting times! Apollo 11 was my first software job. I was fresh out of school and hired by Grumman to work on the lunar module project in the flight mission engineering simulation lab. We were able to “fly” actual descent and ascent scenarios of the lunar module landing on the moon, then lifting off of the moon’s surface, and finally rendezvousing with the command module. I experienced firsthand what the astronauts would experience when the landing took place. You might say I was one of the first to experience what it was like to maneuver and control the vehicle that eventually was to land on the moon. Before it was all over, we had logged over 1,000 simulated moon landings prior to the actual landing. I’m happy to be one of those whose names were left on the moon. – Paul Arnold, software process improvement manager (Grumman employee during Apollo program) Notice that I am avoiding NASA in all the memories I am quoting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-anomalies-artifacts-found-on-the-ground-in-apollo-photos/76835.md?page=19)