Tiny houses

[Wesley_Clark]

@aceplace57

The biggest concern with Tiny houses is avoiding city blight. No one wants to see 60 tiny houses on a small piece of land.

That’s even more denselessly populated than a Trailer Park.

Zoning for Trailer Parks should apply to Tiny Houses. Every lot should have connections for full utilities.

That and a loss of property tax revenue. There isn’t much tax money to be made in homes that cost $30,000.

[Sunny_Daze]

@hibernia

**These tiny house shows are a joke to anyone that has ever lived in Europe as they tend to be bigger than most people could ever afford in London, Oslo, etc.
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I just need to ask: are people really shopping for 150-300 sq ft units in London, Oslo, etc? Are units that size even available? I could see as a studio perhaps, but is it a common thing for a family to try and buy a house or apartment of that size for 4-5 people?

[pullin]

I’ve watched the shows about tiny houses and wondered how long the people actually lived in them. I’ve seen very little about the long term outcome.

This 3d printable house seems like a good compromise. Presumably it can be as little as $10K USD and can be assembled quickly. Once zoning and NIMBY are handled, it seems like a reasonable way to get affordable housing.

@FairyChatMom

We lived aboard our sailboat for a year with a newborn - **much **less space than a tiny house.

I’m curious; How big was the boat? I spend the occasional weekend on our ~30 footer and can’t imagine living aboard for any length of time. Maybe on a 40-50 footer, but then you’re at the price of a house anyway. We’re RV-ers also, but decamp to a hotel for a few days on multi-week trips.

[Chronos]

3D printing of anything only makes economic sense if your market is very small. You’d be much better off with conventional prefab.

[FairyChatMom]

The first one we lived aboard was a 32’ 1937 wooden gaff-rigged pilot cutter. The engine room and cockpit took up at least a quarter of the length. But it had a 13’ beam, which helped a bit.

The second was a 37’ motorsailer, and fully the aft third was engine room and cockpit, so it wasn’t living space. But it did have a pilot house, which was a nice extra space. And one of its water tanks leaked. Good times!

[Nava]

@Sunny_Daze

I just need to ask: are people really shopping for 150-300 sq ft units in London, Oslo, etc? Are units that size even available? I could see as a studio perhaps, but is it a common thing for a family to try and buy a house or apartment of that size for 4-5 people?

My last apartment in Miami was 400 sq ft. IIRC. When I left, I gave the futon I’d bought from one neighbor to another neighbor who lived in a unit the exact size and shape of mine with her 10 kids. They were superhappy because they were going to be able to stop sharing a single queen-size bed.

My apartments in Sweden could, like the one above, be called a studio since the only doors were the ones to the outside and to the bathroom. One was about 300 sq ft.; the apartment directly below housed a family of 5. The second one was about 200sq ft. and I know several similar-sized units held 2 or 3 people.

90m[sup]2[/sup] (969 sq ft, says Google) is the Standard Flat in Spain. At that size they usually come as 3B1b; if they’re 3B2b the bathrooms are for very slim people.

[Sunny_Daze]

Thank you Nava.

400 sq ft for 11 people is terrible. It sounds sub-standard living conditions (but it’s better than living on the streets).

I think a 200-300 sq ft flat for 2 people isn’t completely unbearable or unreasonable, although saying Sweden makes me wants to look at IKEA sample rooms on how to organize that.

90 sq meter flat (3 bedroom/1 ba) seems like what many American houses were until quite recently, and likely still are in urban centers.

I still don’t get building 200 sq ft on a trailer though.