# Tiny, unimportant things that folks get all bothered about **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 22, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271 "2022-04-22T19:24:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/201 "2022-05-13T23:58:04Z")
No, we found Norcal use it too sometimes, but it is not emphasized like SoCal does. Norcal likes to pretend they don’t- but they do. ---
**Author:** ![california\_jobcase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@california\_jobcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/california_jobcase)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/202 "2022-05-14T00:10:18Z")
I went to Wally World on the 9th. I bought 15 items. Three were mispriced. I don’t think having 1/5 of the merchandise priced wrong to be an upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/203 "2022-05-14T00:26:25Z")
Having “regards” mean something sarcastic reminds me of the (supposed) lawyerly communication “with an excess of zeal” or the cheeky _Yes, Minister_ interjection “with the greatest possible respect”… ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/204 "2022-05-14T01:32:34Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > ETA: P.S.: I corrected my earlier post, which you quoted: There is no I-780 there. Yes there is: > **[Interstate 780](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_780?wprov=sfti1)** > > Interstate 780 ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/205 "2022-05-14T01:34:39Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > Yes there is: [an Interstate I-780 in the San Francisco Bay Area] Hey! I knew that! I just totally blanked out on it. I’ve driven on it many times! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/206 "2022-05-14T01:39:14Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > In the Bogart version of _The Maltese Falcon_ , Sam Spade addresses an envelope he’s mailing to himself with the street address (or maybe it was a PO box) and “City.” There was a legend, some years back, that someone addressed a letter with just an icon of a marijuana leaf, an icon of a candy cane, and the words “The City, CA”. It got to the intended addressee! Herb Caen, San Francisco Chronicle columnist. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/207 "2022-05-14T12:38:26Z")
I don’t know if it was ever attempted, but in theory you could send mail to: Sg Lr Bk, Cf, Am Seaborgium Lawrencium Berkelium, Californium, Americium Glenn Seaborg Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory Berkeley, California, USA ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/208 "2022-05-14T18:07:50Z")
> [@california\_jobcase](#): > > I don’t think having 1/5 of the merchandise priced wrong to be an upgrade. I haven’t had that experience, but then I rarely buy anything there other than prepackaged household supplies, OTC meds and personal hygiene stuff, and prepackaged foods like pasta and sauce. (I buy fresh meat and produce elsewhere.) ---
**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/209 "2022-05-14T18:28:59Z")
School rivalries. Business rivalries. In fact, just about all rivalries. Look, I went to one university and you went to another. It doesn’t mean I care to listen to your rant about the superiority of at yours. (If I were emperor, any college that professes broaden their students perceptions - would be forced to have exchange professors from their biggest rival -and have their students take at least a summer half-semester of classes at another university or community college.) Same thing with business. I’ve run into people who think they have to be cheerleaders for their company by disparaging the one I work for. (Guess what? After the next downturn, you might be looking for a job at my company. Are you going to refuse it?) Same thing with the brand of pickup truck you bought. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/210 "2022-05-14T19:07:31Z")
> [@Bonum\_Legatum](#): > > Same thing with the brand of pickup truck you bought. But… Participants in a certain on-line Message Board might be excused if they rant all enthusiastic about their choice of Message Board. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/211 "2022-05-14T19:10:25Z")
> [@Bonum\_Legatum](#): > > School rivalries. Business rivalries. In fact, just about all rivalries. > [@Bonum\_Legatum](#): > > Same thing with the brand of pickup truck you bought. Good points. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/212 "2022-05-14T19:14:22Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Particularly here in the Chicago area: putting ketchup on a hot dog. If I have 2 hot dogs the first gets mustard, the 2nd gets mustard, ketchup, and relish. It’s my dessert hot dog. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/213 "2022-05-14T19:17:17Z")
Agreed. I might broaden it to say just about any form of tribalism … at least for about the last 10,000-ish years. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/214 "2022-05-14T21:18:30Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Norcal likes to pretend they don’t - but they do. I’ve had a LOT of friends and family members living north of LA and in the Bay Area. They were united in their hatred of [“Frisco”](https://www.kqed.org/news/11339599/why-do-some-hate-the-nickname-frisco), [“San Fran”](https://www.mlb.com/cut4/why-can-t-you-call-san-francisco-san-fran), and (new to me) [“The City that Waits to Die”](https://www.sfgate.com/community/article/The-odd-nicknames-of-California-cities-5367760.php#photo-2104503). “Golden Gate City” and “City By the Bay” weren’t as annoying, just passé. But _“ **Norcal** ”_ was especially hated, as it was almost always said by outsiders, and I noticed it immediately cut off a conversation. And you know not to say “Cali”, right? > [People from California do NOT say _‘Cali.’_](https://theculturetrip.com/north-america/usa/california/articles/top-5-nicknames-for-san-francisco/) When they say ‘Cal,’ they mean UC Berkeley, and they **don’t butcher the name of San Francisco**. If you say _Frisco_ or _San Fran,_ you’re letting people know you aren’t from San Francisco and setting yourself up for dirty looks. If you’re a local, or just trying to fit in, stick with The City. _[Or, like most natives do, call it “San Francisco”]_ ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/215 "2022-05-14T21:40:33Z")
> [@digs](#): > > But _“ **Norcal** ”_ was especially hated, as it was almost always said by outsiders, and I noticed it immediately cut off a conversation. I lived moss of my life up there, in San Jose, and never noticed that. And only Friscoians hate Frisco. In SJ we used it whenever we wanted to annoy people from there. So yeah, most residents of Baghdad-by-the-bay hate Frisco, but most of the rest of the state think that is funny. Cali is just used in song etc when you need a cool rhyme. Back to tribalism- one especially silly tribalism is Professional sports, where fans with decorate their house, truck, face and even body with their team. Which, the minute some other city falls for the con and busy them a new stadium, the team will leave their devoted fans for greener pastures. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/216 "2022-05-14T21:44:54Z")
> [@digs](#): > > But _“ **Norcal** ”_ was especially hated, as it was almost always said by outsiders, and I noticed it immediately cut off a conversation. Yeah, my hackles are hackling at the very word. Only acceptable in business names or athletic leagues. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/217 "2022-05-14T21:45:47Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > And only Friscoians hate Frisco. In SJ we used it whenever we wanted to annoy people from there. So yeah, most residents of Baghdad-by-the-bay hate Frisco, but most of the rest of the state think that is funny. It’s only funny because it’s irritating to someone. Like many things. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/218 "2022-05-14T21:58:23Z")
Well, yeah. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/219 "2022-05-15T17:52:09Z")
I’ve always called it San Fro because of the airport code SFO. It was common for people in aviation to call it that. It just shortens it up when talking. I thought it odd when I got flack from a Manager over it. It must have bugged him something fierce. But I will forever know Rice a Roni as a San Francisco treat so that the Universe stays in balance. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/220 "2022-05-15T22:41:54Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > The whole ketchup/hot dog thing and the over/under toilet paper thing are a safe way for us to divide ourselves into cliques without really being divisive - it’s a way to mock others who actually do seek to divide-up people into “us” and “them” Interesting perspective. I wish I believed this was the case - I think these things probably just encourage people to conflate preference with some sort of moral or objective superiority. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271.md?page=12)