# Tiny, unimportant things that folks get all bothered about

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 22, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271 "2022-04-22T19:24:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/81 "2022-04-24T18:45:04Z")

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People get all bothered when they see I have a flip-phone.

”OMG, you HAVE to get a smart phone. What is wrong with you?”

I get his shit all the time.

I don’t have to do a goddamned thing. WTF does it matter to you what kind of phone I have? It makes phone calls and fits nicely in my shirt or pants pocket. Not that I have to justify it to the likes of you.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/82 "2022-04-24T19:09:35Z")

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I never got that either. Somehow those two words, one meaning “commendations” and the other being his name, implied contempt and condescension to whoever read it. Those who were offended by it must have wanted to be offended.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/83 "2022-04-24T19:12:06Z")

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> [@Ulfreida](#):
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> > [@snowthx](#):
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> > Correct, but that’s mainly used by locals in the surrounding area. I was referring to “Frisco” and “San Fran”.
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> San Fran is in Cali. Wherever THAT is.  
> Frisco is in Texas

I beg your pardon; [Frisco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisco,_North_Carolina) is in North Carolina and has the best beach in the United States. The one in Texas is the _other_ Frisco.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/84 "2022-04-24T19:23:00Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> WTF does it matter to you what kind of phone I have? It makes phone calls…

While I agree, and in fact carried a flip phone for longer than was fashionable (until two years ago, in fact) people rarely use their phones to make phone calls anymore.

What they use their phone for is to watch some vid while walking with their black hoodie up and while crossing the street without looking or paying any attention. They, of course, people get all excited about rising pedestrian deaths and want to lower the speed limit to 15 MPH.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/85 "2022-04-24T20:45:36Z")

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I don’t care what other people do. I only need a TELEPHONE to make, wait for it…PHONE calls. Not to stare into it like a zombie.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/86 "2022-04-24T20:53:02Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> I beg your pardon; [Frisco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisco,_North_Carolina) is in North Carolina and has the best beach in the United States. The one in Texas is the _other_ Frisco.

I bow to superior knowledge. I have never been to any Frisco.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/87 "2022-04-24T20:56:38Z")

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> [@JaneDoe42](#):
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> Toilet seat and lid always down unless in use because we have always had pets.

We used to keep the lid up (but the seat down), until we had a cat who loved to play in water. After finding a few cat toys in the toilet bowl, we started keeping the lid down as a rule.

Said cat passed away four years ago, but we’ve kept the lid-down policy, especially with the new feline residents, who are unpredictable about their play habits. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dahu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dahu/32/3416_2.png) [@Dahu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dahu)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/88 "2022-04-24T21:23:38Z")

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In my limited experience, there is only one [Frisco](https://www.townoffrisco.com/).

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/89 "2022-04-24T21:28:19Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> I don’t care what other people do. I only need a TELEPHONE to make, wait for it…PHONE calls. Not to stare into it like a zombie.

Dude, it’s a computer. You use computers - in fact, you’re using one _right this moment_. There are desktop computers, laptop computers, tablet computers, and pocket computers - AKA smartphones. Each has its advantages and disadvantages, but saying that one type of computer is stupid and unnecessary while using a slightly different type of computer, is patently ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/90 "2022-04-24T21:31:36Z")

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> [@Dahu](#):
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> In my limited experience, there is only one [Frisco](https://www.townoffrisco.com/).

And one now-defunct railway: the [St. Louis-San Francisco Railway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis%E2%80%93San_Francisco_Railway), which was usually referred to (even in its logos) as “The Frisco.”

Despite its name, its trackage never went anywhere close to San Francisco. However, the Texas city of Frisco was named after the railroad.

[![](https://www.rebelrails.com/images/products/large_254_FRISCOpadGP50L.jpg) ](https://www.rebelrails.com/images/products/large_254_FRISCOpadGP50L.jpg)

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/91 "2022-04-24T21:48:58Z")

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Anybody remember the kerfuffles about “**[top-posting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting)**” vs. “**[bottom-posting](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting)**” on internet newsgroups ?

The battles dragged on for decades, cost millions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives.

Was one style more convenient than another ? Sure. Why not.

But I was miraculously able to suss out what any marginally coherent poster was getting at.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/92 "2022-04-24T22:00:15Z")

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Allowing people to carry around pocket sized video cameras connected to the internet has been a disaster for some professions.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/93 "2022-04-24T22:20:30Z")

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And a boon to others.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/94 "2022-04-24T22:44:28Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Sure but whoever set the standard is often getting obsessed over a minor thing.

No, this is business writing and training instruction that sometimes has an audience in the tens of thousands. It’s part of the job description to adhere to these standards.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/95 "2022-04-24T22:47:35Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> > [@puzzlegal](#):
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> > Naw, that involves the non-trivial risk of falling into the toilet when you wake up in the middle of the night to pee.
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> Yeah - and if I keep the lid down you’re gonna just plop on down and piss all over that? 😃
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> I’ve heard this quite often from women - don’t buy it, but not gonna argue it.

Huh, no? If you leave the lid down I’d sit on it, be momentarily annoyed, and then lift the lid. But if I’m expecting a seat to stop my descent, and it’s not there, i might fall in.

I have no idea why you don’t buy it. I know a guy who DID fall into the toilet because he was expecting the seat there and it was night time. (And he’s a sometimes-sitter, especially in the dark.)

I don’t put the lid down because i never put the lid down, unless I’m in someone else’s house and that’s how i found their toilet. Or in the the guest bathroom, when we are fostering kittens and I’m afraid one might fall in. But I’ve never put down the lid down in our other bathrooms. I probably would have bought a seat without a lid it that had been an option.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/96 "2022-04-24T22:50:13Z")

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ohh and since gormless george is a maine coon I but that was like a wet heavy 10 pound mop lol

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/97 "2022-04-24T22:58:12Z")

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I guess I am not formed such that I’m incapable of discerning whether there is a seat down before just plopping my ass towards a toilet and assuming there will be a seat beneath me. Whether it is detected by contact with the back of your legs, with a touch of your hand, or as you gently lower yourself. I guess someone will claim how befuddled they are when they awake in the night. I find that a pretty weak excuse. If you are in danger of falling into the toilet, maybe you’d better just wear diapers.

The idea of an adult who claims it was entirely reasonable for themself to just drop down on a toilet in a manner such that they fall in? Well, I can imagine that there are such people. I find it much harder to imagine that that is reasonable behavior.

FTR - at night I always sit. You know what? There HAVE been occasions that I have been in the process of sitting and realized there wasn’t a seat lowered. Never came close to falling in, tho. I might have been momentarily annoyed, and then lowered the seat. 😉

Someone saying they would fall in the damned toilet strikes me as either astounding irresponsibility, or gross exaggeration.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/98 "2022-04-24T23:19:00Z")

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Wet cats feel slimy to me. Long haired wet cats are even worse. Trying to wrangle a BIG wiggly long haired wet cat can be interesting.

We’ve had to put his water fountain out in the catio and rugs in front of the kitty door so the jerkface kitty kat stops tracking up the floor.

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> What they use their phone for is to watch some vid while walking with their black hoodie up and while crossing the street without looking or paying any attention.

I almost peed my pants laughing the time I watched someone like that walk straight into the side of a stopped delivery van. The light was red, traffic was stopped, the idiot successfully managed to jaywalk though one lane but didn’t seem able to see the big blue van in the next lane. As I recall, I wasn’t the only one laughing my ass off.

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**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/99 "2022-04-24T23:48:36Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Someone saying they would fall in the damned toilet strikes me as either astounding irresponsibility, or gross exaggeration.

I’ve fallen in the toilet several times. I grew up in a household of men. I have never been able to fall asleep well with a light on. Growing up, our bathroom was in the dark. Thus, a middle of the night run was a risk for me, even with my mother’s decree that the lid should stay down. I had to learn how to discern, with my hand, the position of the seat and lid. However, I could get partially even by letting the heavy ceramic seat drop with a bang so I would wake up my brothers if they left the seat up. Their heads were just the other side of the wall from the toilet. If it woke up Mom too, the boys would get a lecture in the morning. My brothers claimed I was mean. My mother claimed they were lazy asses and good for me.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2022, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tiny-unimportant-things-that-folks-get-all-bothered-about/963271/100 "2022-04-24T23:53:18Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> > [@pkbites](#):
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> > I don’t care what other people do. I only need a TELEPHONE to make, wait for it…PHONE calls. Not to stare into it like a zombie.
> 
> Dude, it’s a computer. You use computers - in fact, you’re using one _right this moment_. There are desktop computers, laptop computers, tablet computers, and pocket computers - AKA smartphones. Each has its advantages and disadvantages, but saying that one type of computer is stupid and unnecessary while using a slightly different type of computer, is patently ridiculous.

You’re missing the point and it’s in line with the OP. People actually act bothered when when they see I have a flip phone and it’s a tiny, unimportant thing. It’s not something that affects them in the least.  
I’m always surprised at how some people react to it. It’s weird.

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