# Tipping in America: the insult tip **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 20, 2017, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226 "2017-08-20T23:14:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/281 "2017-08-28T03:08:33Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > My, you’re an easily frightened old man, clinging to his blankie, and wetting his Depends. I sense…desperation. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/282 "2017-08-28T03:15:25Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I sense…desperation. Yes, that’s what you smell like. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/283 "2017-08-28T03:22:17Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Yes, that’s what you smell like. You’re kinda pathetic at insults. I suggest consulting a 6 year old. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/284 "2017-08-28T03:24:01Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You’re kinda pathetic at insults. I suggest consulting a 6 year old. You mean like the ones you hang around with? ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/285 "2017-08-28T04:20:27Z")
The missing colon screwed him up. D’Anconia has his head so far up his ass he can’t figure out what other use you might have for a colon. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/286 "2017-08-28T04:43:28Z")
What is it that every Randian is an unmitigated, unrepentant asshole? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/287 "2017-08-28T05:11:38Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > A message board is text based. We can only go by what is posted. > > “WARNING INVALID URL” does not inspire confidence. Were you the sort of person who had enough good will to presume that your interlocutor is posting in good faith, you could easily have taken a moment to investigate the link and found and corrected the coding error yourself. But then if you were that sort of person, you probably WOULDN’T be the pusillanimous waste of skin we’ve all come to know and [del]love[/del] loathe for the past three years. So shine on, you crazy diamond, I guess. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/288 "2017-08-28T05:35:26Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > … So shine on, you crazy diamond, I guess. :dubious: _You wore out your welcome With random precision_ damn that hits too close to the mark – except for the fact that Syd was a genius ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/289 "2017-08-28T05:51:16Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > You mean like the ones you hang around with? In days of yore the average village idiot liked to lurk in the background, trying desperately not to draw attention to their shortcomings. Attention brought threats like being stuck on an ice-floe or being thrown to the wolves. Must suck to not even come up to idiot status dude. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/290 "2017-08-28T06:45:22Z")
**runningcoach** posted an excellent cite that appears to have been ignored! [http://www.epi.org/publication/employers-steal-billions-from-workers-paychecks-each-year-survey-data-show-millions-of-workers-are-paid-less-than-the-minimum-wage-at-significant-cost-to-taxpayers-and-state-economies/](http://www.epi.org/publication/employers-steal-billions-from-workers-paychecks-each-year-survey-data-show-millions-of-workers-are-paid-less-than-the-minimum-wage-at-significant-cost-to-taxpayers-and-state-economies/) > [@](#): > > Employers steal billions from workers’ paychecks each year > > Survey data show millions of workers are paid less than the minimum wage, at significant cost to taxpayers and state economies ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/291 "2017-08-28T07:22:30Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > **runningcoach** posted an excellent cite that appears to have been ignored! > > [http://www.epi.org/publication/employers-steal-billions-from-workers-paychecks-each-year-survey-data-show-millions-of-workers-are-paid-less-than-the-minimum-wage-at-significant-cost-to-taxpayers-and-state-economies/](http://www.epi.org/publication/employers-steal-billions-from-workers-paychecks-each-year-survey-data-show-millions-of-workers-are-paid-less-than-the-minimum-wage-at-significant-cost-to-taxpayers-and-state-economies/) It’s NOT an excellent cite. Did you look at their Board of Directors? Richard Trumka Keith Ellison Tom Perez Robert Reich You don’t think that they might be just a teeny bit biased? ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/292 "2017-08-28T07:46:40Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > It’s NOT an excellent cite. > > Did you look at their Board of Directors? > > Richard Trumka > Keith Ellison > Tom Perez > Robert Reich > > You don’t think that they might be just a teeny bit biased? Ok \> Village Cretin, how about YOU provide one to the contrary then? And just to be totally clear, I want you to provide a cite that EVERY person working in the US is being paid according to the minimum wage legislation. EVERY PERSON. I can wait…I have all the time in the world. And I mean a published CITE, not something you heard from Aunt Bessie or Cousin Ike down in the boonies from which you crawled. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/293 "2017-08-28T08:00:38Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Ok \> Village Cretin, how about YOU provide one to the contrary then? > > And just to be totally clear, I want you to provide a cite that EVERY person working in the US is being paid according to the minimum wage legislation. EVERY PERSON. I can wait…I have all the time in the world. > > And I mean a published CITE, not something you heard from Aunt Bessie or Cousin Ike down in the boonies from which you crawled. It’s not up to me to provide a contrary cite. Do you even know who those people are? Union thugs, the head of the DNC, and a Clintonista. It’s not an “excellent” cite, by any means. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/294 "2017-08-28T08:13:32Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > It’s not up to me to provide a contrary cite. Yeah, it is actually. You called out the creds of the original cite, I asked you to provide one showing contrary results. Can’t do? Didn’t think so. Village idiots don’t know much about shit like this. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/295 "2017-08-28T08:19:10Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Yeah, it is actually. You called out the creds of the original cite, I asked you to provide one showing contrary results… Nope. The person making the claim has to provide a valid cite, it’s not up to others to provide a contrary cite. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/296 "2017-08-28T08:24:31Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Nope. The person making the claim has to provide a valid cite, it’s not up to others to provide a contrary cite. The cite is not invalid. The data was sourced via recognised survey applications. Just because you happen to disagree with the outcome/s does not mean the cite is invalid. So, Village Cretin, try again… ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/297 "2017-08-28T08:36:35Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Nope. The person making the claim has to provide a valid cite, it’s not up to others to provide a contrary cite. [Study Finds Violations of Wage Law in New York and California](https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/business/study-finds-violations-of-wage-law-in-new-york-and-california.html?mcubz=0) > [@](#): > > [The United States Labor Department](https://www.dol.gov/asp/evaluation/completed-studies/WageViolationsReportDecember2014.pdf) says that a new study shows that between 3.5 and 6.5 percent of all the wage and salary workers in California and New York are paid less than the minimum wage. > > The study, which examined work force data for the two states, found that more than 300,000 workers in each state suffered minimum-wage violations each month. Labor Department officials said that even if one assumed a violation rate half that nationwide, that would mean more than two million workers across the nation were paid less than the federal or state minimum wage. > > Violations were most common in the restaurant and hotel industries, the study found, followed by educational and health services and retail and wholesale. > > “These findings are alarming in terms of the prevalence of the problem, particularly in a set of industries where we already know workers earn low wages and struggle to earn a basic family budget,” said David Weil, administrator of the Labor Department’s Wage and Hour Division. > > The minimum-wage violations in those two states translate into $20 million to $29 million in lost income per week, the study concluded. Those amounts represent 38 percent of the income of the victimized workers in New York and 49 percent of the income of victimized workers in California. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/298 "2017-08-28T08:47:48Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Study Finds Violations of Wage Law in New York and California](https://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/business/study-finds-violations-of-wage-law-in-new-york-and-california.html?mcubz=0) Dude, it was the US Labor Dept doing the study. Surely you know they’re just a front for the CommIslamiStalinIllegalImmigrant Party? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/299 "2017-08-28T09:23:52Z")
Jesus Christ, people. I thought this thread was supposed to be about us laughing at **Quartz** for being an uptight, cheap, rude prick. C’mon, guys! Focus! ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2017, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226/300 "2017-08-28T09:37:07Z")
> [@Fuji](#): > > Jesus Christ, people. I thought this thread was supposed to be about us laughing at **Quartz** for being an uptight, cheap, rude prick. > > C’mon, guys! Focus! **Quartz** is a lost cause. He’s British. 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tipping-in-america-the-insult-tip/794226.md?page=16)