Tipping

Falcon5768 wrote:
See the problem with your argument is that because the buisness themselves have not raised the payrate with the times, you ARE required to pay more for the service.

Speaking from the experience of my girlfriend, very often your Waiter will make $2.50 or less minus tip, and YES they are taxed on that 2.50. and even with including their tip (which they must by law, but usually dont because of my next point) they make UNDER minimum wage. My girlfriend works for Romano’s Macaronni Grill, and when all is set and done, after 40 hours of work she makes only about 150 - 200 dollars including tips minus her insurance which is 50 bucks. And shes been there for 5 years while going through college and gotten a pay raise new people tend to make even LESS!!!
My reply -
If your girlfriend makes less than minimum wage, then why doesn’t she quit and get a job that pays minimum wage? Her failure to get adequate compensation is not my fault. She must take responsibility for her life.

And don’t claim that “she is only suited for waitressing”. In the first place, it is unlikely that that is true, given that she has persevered througha college degree. In the second place, there are plenty of food service industry jobs (e.g., fast food) where one makes at least minimum wage. (And yes, I have been there - I apid my way through three degrees, in part by working at various fast food establishments.)

In California the tip is legally the property of the waiter, not the restaurant. I wonder whether it is legal here for a restaurant to reduce the size of the tip if the customer pays with a credit card.

My brother-in-law agrees with Ether Dragon about the fairness of tipping based on the restaurant’s prices instead of on the amount of work done by the server. Unfortunately, his solution to the issue is about as cheap as you can get. He tips $1 per person in the party being served… period. Yuck.

I have to admit I agree with the posters who resent the notion of “creeping” percentages on tipping. I tip well, never less than 15% unless the service is atrocious, usually closer to 20%. But back in the 1960’s, 10% WAS the norm; then it went to 15%; now it’s creeping toward 20%. Traditional etiquette books claimed that you did not need to tip on the tax, but obviously when you use that rule all this does is annoy the wait-staff, so we are nowadays inclined to tip on the whole amount.

I should not have to make up for the cheapskates who DON’T tip by being subjected to ever-increasing percentages, since we can all assume that the price of the meal rises with inflation. I think restaurants should simply charge more and pay their help more. If you don’t like it, you can go to a cafeteria or a fast-food place.

I have to call bullshit on the argument in the staff report. He basically says that the waiter might expect a tip on tax, in which case you displease him by not giving it, or he might not expect a tip on tax, in which case giving it will only please him, so the best choice is to always tip on tax.

But it doesn’t address the question of whether this expectation is reasonable. By the same logic, what if the waiter is expecting 20%? Tipping lower might disappoint the waiter, but tipping at that level can only please him. Thus you should always tip 20%. But what if the waiter is expecting 30%? And so on.

Now, under most circumstances a waiter should not expect a 30% tip. So the question is, should a waiter expect a tip on tax? This question is not addressed in the staff report.

Disclaimer: I tip better than 15% on the total bill, so the “cheapskate” ad hominem doesn’t apply.

To base a tip on a percentage is simply ridiculous. Waitstaff is paid less than $3 an hour for the most part and it may not be the hardest work physically but dealing with bad attitudes is not easy work - and most people think they are different or deserve more than the person at the next table. Now at 40 hours a week that’s a huge $120 before taxes. For those of you saying that if they don’t like it they should find another job, perhaps it should be those of you who don’t like to tip should make something at home and keep your cheap butt out of the public. I waited tables for years and you should tip on the service you received. If you need to base it on something it should be the 2 for 10. Two dollars for every ten dollars of the total. And remember if you’re not going to tip well, you’re picky, need a lot attention or you’re less than nice, you can still get a smile and satisfaction out of your waitperson - most likely with a sneeze or a spit in your food between the kitchen and your table (oh YES, we really did that!) bon appetit!

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Now my question: what did Waitress B do to deserve a larger tip than Waitress A? She handed me a pricier steak? There was a lemon slice in my water? How does the quality of the food or the size of the bill make any difference to the service of the wait staff?

Waitstaff paycheck taxes are based on their sales (aka the total cost of their tables). A and B are reporting on the same percentage but B is most likely going to end up with a $0 paycheck at the end of the week because the percentage of sales was so much they now live off the tips. Yes B is most likely going to be more refined (aka tolerant of attitude) and understand etiquette. Both A and B most likely provide or pay for their uniforms (B may even have to pay for either own drycleaning). If you get good service, face it, you need to pay for it. I may have a job on the hill now but I remember where I came from and believe me, the work is much easier this way. At least my current job doesn’t require me to button my lip or be belittled as I have been in the past just because I worked in the service industry. If you’ve never been a waitperson then you don’t understand how much it takes out of someone and you really are commenting out of ignorance.

Sorry about the typo on dessert, and thanks for pointing it out… we’ll get it corrected.

On the “waiter” vs “waitperson”, there was a little disconnect between the writing (done by me in a rush before leaving on vacation) and the editing (done by Ed while trying to coach soccer). We’ll fix that, too.

Now see, I think that basing a tip on 20% makes much more sense than two dollars for every ten dollars of the total. But then again, six of one dozen, half-a-dozen of another twelve.

I’m a bartender in Charleston, SC.
Servers and some bartenders in every state I’ve worked in receive a minimum wage in the area of $2.13-$2.50/hr. They are REQUIRED to claim their tips, and if they don’t, their employers do it for them. Some places of employment will ensure their employees claim up to a certain percentage of their sales by claiming the difference for them if they fail to meet the percentage set as policy. I have worked for employers who require up to 15% of total sales be claimed for tips, regardless of food, beverage, or even retail items on the tab, it’s all considered. If the average of income for hours worked during the work period falls below the real minimum wage set by the state, the employer is required to make up the difference, but if this is the case, the server is usually unemployed. It is therefore possible that a server may be over-taxed for their earnings, and it happens. It has happened to me, and if anything, I can only be accused of being too attentive.
I tip a minimum of 15% for bad service as long as it is at least mediocre, unless the server is obviously lazy or has a terrible work ethic. I give the best service I can possibly give when I’m on the clock because the customer deserves it, and I expect adequate service when I’m the customer. As a general rule, I round the bill up to the nearest dollar and tip 20% of that amount. For exceptional service, I have tipped as much as 50-75%.
Any who say that a servers job is easy would be better advised to actually work as a server before expressing their ill informed opinion. There is no correlation between full service restaurant serving and any other service employments, especially when cocktails are involved. It can be very rewarding, is often very stressful, and is taken very seriously by anyone who chooses it as their lifes work; they do it for themselves, but they have to put the customer first because if they don’t, they won’t get paid— the house doesn’t pay them, you do. As far as what they do in other countries (I’ve been to several), I don’t care. I prefer our system because it tends to wash out those with no competence for the work, and I will joyfully compensate the hard working server or bartender without the house telling me the service I will pay.

Like caphillobbyguy, I’m a former waitron-- off and on from 1980 through 1997 (mostly, alas, on) and held the occasional back of the house job during this time as well. I waited tables in Boston, NYC, New Orleans, Richmond VA, a resort in the Blue Ridge Mountains, and Dublin, Ireland. So here are a few painfully well informed comments on the tipping idea.

  1. Just to get this out of the way first-- as your waitress, I perform a service for you without any guarantee of payment. Would a carpenter build your kitchen cabinets without any upfront payment? Does your doctor wait to find out if you have insurance after your exam? Even if you tried to blow off your payment, or even part of your payment, they have the option of taking you to court. I do not have that. Furthermore, I will be taxed on an assumed tip regardless of whether or not I get it. Yes, the tipping system sucks, but possibly it’s better than the alternatives. More on this later.

  2. I have worked in very high end and very low end restaurants and bars, and a lot in between. In a high end restaurant, waiters are assigned fewer tables a piece, so the waiter has more time to spend on you. High end restaurants also have more back-up staff-- plate runners, sommeliers, bus staff, hosts/maitre d’s, et cetera. The waiter is expected to tip out everyone except perhaps the maitre d’. Also, high end restaurants have fewer seatings a night-- you probably will not turn your tables more than three to, at most, five times in an eight hour shift, and it’s a rare night that you don’t have at least one party in for the long haul. In a bar or neighborhood place, or even your friendly local dive, there is less staff per table (even if you see a host and bus boy, trust me, they’re spread much thinner and there won’t be a sommelier). For the waiter, the key in these places is volume and speed.The waiter is responsible for many more tables and must turn them as quickly as is reasonable-- or pump the squatters with as many drinks as possible, depending on the place. A high end waiter has more duties per table (those crumbs don’t brush themselves, ya know), will get more cash per tip, but will only have a few tips a night-- because they’re focusing on just a few of you-- and will often tip out more. On the low end, you have more general responsibilities, like busing and prepping desserts, you get less cash per 20% tip, have more tips, and may tip out less (but more on that also below). For the waiter, it’s about the same. Restaurant popularity and management practices determine how much you’ll make in a given place much more than high end/low end.

  3. New York and Massachusetts labor law states that a waitron may be compelled to tip out up to, but not more than, 20% of his earnings per shift. This is BS-- I have rarely worked any place where we tipped out less than 20%, and 25% to 35% is more likely. No one held a gun to our heads to do it (although I have been told by management to do it). But your bus boy deserves better than a few bucks at the end of the night, on top of his minimum wage. Restaurant work is hard, dirty, physically grueling work for every worker there, with a high injury rate and screwy hours, with people often finishing a shift after subways stop running, and if the owner won’t pay the back-up staff a decent wage, the wait staff makes up for it.

  4. The minimum amount any waiter is allowed to declare per the IRS as tip income is 8% of pre-tax sales, and I haven’t worked anyplace since 1985 that would allow the wait staff to declare this low. Since 1990, every place I’ve worked has demanded that we declare at least 12% of our sales, regardless of whether or not we made that. Particularly as restaurants have computerized, and sales are tracked constantly, restaurants declare your tips automatically and the waiter has no recourse. The last place I worked declared 14% of our pre-tax sales as tip income. We could voluntarily increase it, but we could not decrease it. Many restaurants were audited during the eighties-- frankly, many restaurants were tax write-offs or money laundering fronts back then-- and the IRS is very snarky about restaurants in general.

  5. So, by the way, is your local labor board. About ten years ago, I had the thrilling occasion to call the labor board when twice in one week I escorted coworkers to the hospital with their severed fingers in a glass of ice water (one waiter, one prep cook). We has a broken deli slicer. The management was reticent about paying the hospital bills (Very few restaurants give their staff health insurance. I have never had it in a restaurant. Hotels, chains, and the very rare union restaurant are the only restaurants that occasionally, not consistently, do). Anyway, I had a very nice conversation with a very sympathetic woman who told me that all restaurant claims were taken seriously. Restaurants, she said, had one of the highest rates of worker exploitation, but it was rarely reported because of fear of losing a job and/or the large number of illegal or “twilight” (legal, sort of) workers. I can vouch for the latter-- we withdrew the complaint when she told me they would need the documentation of any workers who were present during the accidents. We just didn’t know, and we didn’t want half our kitchen staff deported if they weren’t fully legal. The guys ended up threatening to sue, and got the hospital bills covered. Nothing else, though-- no lost wages.

  6. Which leads to this point: if you think that what a waiter makes has inflated disprapportionately-- say, what a waiter makes today compared to 1975, considering cost of living increases, inflation, and so on-- you’re off your bean. Or, you’ve never worked a service-type blue collar job. Consider this: in any given market, the overwhelming majority of waiting jobs pay about $2.85 an hour. If this is where you are skilled and experienced, you probably will not have any choice but to take this wage. You will not receive health insurance (after the Twin Towers went down, I read a story in the New York Times that less than 4% of the restaurant jobs in NYC offer insurance to any of their staff. In my experience, NYC is high compared to the rest of the country. Also, some restaurants only offer health benefits to the kitchen staff). You will not have sick days. You probably will not accumulate vacation days. In addition to the time you spend actually waiting tables and earning tips, you will have a minimum of one, more commonly two, and as high as three hours a shift of prepping, stocking, cleaning, and doing all the things that have to be done for the restaurant to function, and you will do this for $2.85 and no tips during this time. Because you are the lowest paid person on the staff, management will love to give you the jobs that they would have to pay another staff member a higher hourly wage to perform. Because almost all of your income depends on tips, any slack time in the business, be it seasonal, catastrophic (think tourism after 9/11), weather related, for a day, a week, a year, will directly effect you income, immediately. A fire in the abandoned building across the street means you will not make any money today. If, for some reason, you go on unemployment, your payment is based on $2.85 an hour, not your wage plus tips. Apply for a mortgage, and the bank only considers half your declared tips. In my first waiting job, in 1980, I was paid $2.00/hour. In my last one in 1997, I was paid $2.85. In Massachusetts, there was a fight in the State House a few years ago to increases the service minimum to $3.10. I don’t know if it was successful. Meanwhile, my rent alone has quadrupled since 1990, for the same type of apartment. Restaurant prices have not quadrupled in the same period. They have gone up, but not proportionately to the cost of basic needs like housing and health care. You may be paying $30.00 for a dish that was $24.00 ten years ago, and $3.50 for a previously $3.00 beer, and you may be tipping 18% rather than 15% as you did then, but my subway fare to get to work has doubled. Way way back when, waiting was treated like any other job, with a decent if not extravagent hourly wage, all of the protections and benefits received by other workers, where loyalty was appreciated and good work was rewarded by the business owner and not expected to be provided by the clientel. Tips were the icing, not the cake. I don’t know when exactly waiting became Something Other, when restaurant owners started agitating to be able to pay extremely low ages, while crossing their fingers that tips would make up the rest. Waiting has always been strange in as much as it was a servant’s job without the noblesse oblige traditionally held towards a household servant. However, this is the sytem we have…

  7. … and I agree that it should change. Basically, this could happen two ways: either tipping at a set minimum could become compulsary, or tipping could be abolished and prices hiked to pay wait staff a consistant decent wage unrelated to sales. Either way, wages have to go up. I’ve talked to a lot of restaurant owners and mangers about it, and they all hate the idea of hiking wages per the latter choice (surprise!), and they all have argued that to compensate the staff equal to tips, they would have to hike prices well beyond what patrons currently pay in tips. In short, to give the staff that additional 20%, they would have to increase prices well beyond twenty percent. Undoubtedly this is partly due to increased paperwork (now done by the staff), having to provide benefits they don’t have to currently, and so on. It would also be becuse they would have to increase the wages of everyone in the restaurants who depends on the waiters tips. So I would be thrilled if we had a compulsary 20% add on. Not 15%: if it is pre-tax, it would have to be 20%. If someone tipped me 15% pre-tax, in my mind they are tipping less than 15% on their bill, and while I didn’t check every time, I checked often enough. Waiting makes you mercenary. As far as I was concerned, anything less than 15% was a shaft and that person was begging for their coffee to be Visined next time they were in. And I deserved 20%…

  8. …because I was a damn good waitress. I will not go into now the ins and outs of waiting (this post is already too long), but if you think waiting is a minmum wage job, then you need to go do it-- and donate all your earnings above minimum wage to the Windows on the World Fund. As I said above, it’s hard work. I’m not even forty and I have arthiritis in both knees and a bad back to attest to many hours waiting. I highly recommend Bruce Henderson’s book, Waiting, if you want an amusing inside view on the job.

  9. So why does anyone do it? Overwhelmingly for the hours. Two parents can split childcare duties if one can work nights. As Falcon5768 mentioned above, it can be worked around a school schedule. I waited tables while variously teaching high school, working for Planned Parenthood and Aids Action, and freelance writing, all of which did not pay well enough to not have a second job. A friend of mine went back to waiting tables after years of social work so she could take care of her mother with Alzheimer’s. Also, under the current system,you leave with cash every shift, which made a big difference to me when I was barely making my rent teaching. If I could eat ramen until my Thursday shift, I could afford groceries between paychecks.
    Also, a lot of the time, I loved it. I liked making people happy. I liked the window on human nature. In some places-- not all-- I genuinely liked the patrons. Hell, I married one. Some of my best friendships are with either co-workers or patrons from the restaurants where I worked.
    However, I wouldn’t set foot on a restaurant floor again for less than twenty bucks an hour. If you think that’s high, consider that the last few years I worked, via the wonders of computers, I know I rarely sold less than $300 an hour, in a moderately priced bistro, and I had shifts where I sold over $4000.00 in eight hours. And the majority of my customers were happy. And I ran my ass off for them. So twenty an hour would be my absolute minimum.

Thought I’d chime in as someone who actually works for an international “family dining” chain. As a server, I make $2.13 hourly, and that is before tax. When someone leaves a tip, I don’t get to keep it all. First, there’s the host or hostess. Someone mentioned their $7.00-$9.00 pay rate, and I’d like to know where that is so I can apply. I know that Ruby Tuesday and Outback both pay their greeters $3.00 hourly, then give them a percentage of the servers’ tips. That tip is not calculated by the actual amount of money the server has in hand, but from the amount of money made for the company. The “tip out” rate, if I’m not mistaken, was decided with the assumption that every table leaves a <i>minimum</i> 15% tip.

Now, there’s the bartender. That’s about 10% of all alcohol sales. So, if you’re only tipping on the price of your food, your server is paying money out of pocket to the bartender. Again, this figure was decided upon based on the idea that people who dine in a restaraunt will leave at least a 15% tip on the <i>total</i> bill.

There’re also the occasional bussers and food runners. I’m fortunate enough to not have to work in a place where I have double the people to share my earnings with, so I really can’t comment, except to say that even with a busser, I’d often find myself clearing and cleaning my own tables.

Simply put, the majority of servers expect a 20% tip for giving average service (though, most restaraunts pride themselves on having higher definitions of “average” than all the rest) and higher tips for going above and beyond what the customer expects. Yes, we do wonder if we did something wrong when we get smaller tips. However, if someone comes into a restaraunt regularly and doesn’t tip well, it’s quickly realized where the problem lies.

Thought Number One:

The point Dex was trying to make with his analysis of outcomes was that “rational” decision-making efforts would probably lead one to conclude the tip should be on the total + tax. The issue of “reasonableness” doesn’t apply; the calculation is simply one designed to determine what you should do based on expected outcomes. After all, the REASON one tips is to let the waitstaff know how one feels about the service received. The amount of the tip communicates a message, indeed, it’s the point to the entire exercise.

Thought Number Two:

How much the restaurant pays in an hourly wage is really pretty irrelevant to the issue of what percentage to tip to communicate satisfaction. As an example, suppose that the waitstaff was paid $2.50 an hour ten years ago, and the same amount now. Assume inflation totalling 50% over those years. Assume an individual server averaged four checks an hour of $20. At 10% tip, that meant $8 every hour, or $40 for a five hour shift, plus the $12.50 in wages for $52.50, equalling $10.50/hr. Now, the four checks average $30 apiece, and at 10% tip the shift results in $12 per hour, totalling $60, plus $12.50 gives you $72.50, or $14.50/hr. While this is only a 38% total earnings gain, were the tip now 15% of total, the earnings gain would be close to 100%, or roughly double the inflation rate. Obviously, different numbers can be plugged in, but the point is that, as long as the wage is a small portion of the earnings, the lack of a raise in wages doesn’t really require a huge change in compensating gratuity payment.

Tip percentage went up in the late 70’s in response to inflationary pressures. At a time when inflation was quite high, it was easy to convince people that everything should cost more, even things paid on a percentage of an underlying inflating amount. Resistance to a herd mentality is futile.

Thought Number Three:

Only someone inexperienced in what is involved in serving at expensive versus inexpensive restaurants would assume that the same service is being provided at each. While a server at each place is certainly busy, the quality and quantity of service is much higher at a quality restaurant, or it certainly should be, anyway. If it isn’t, you aren’t eating at the right quality restaurants. Plus, at quality restaurants, often the tip is split among the waitstaff; at your corner grill, Betsy pockets it herself.

Thought Number Four:

Any server who takes out his/her pique regarding perceived “under-tipping” by spitting into food, or other such disgusting things, is quite unprofessional. Frankly, any such person should be fired on the spot if detected doing such a thing. AND, the person is obviously failing to get the point from the low tip: that they aren’t doing the job they should. Of course, if they’re spitting into food, it probably isn’t too surprising they are the type of waitperson to get a low tip.

I might also point out that there is simply no resonable basis for the apparent assumption that tipping rates should be increasing again. Inflation is low, so that can’t be the issue. And the waitperson isn’t doing more for you now than they did ten or twenty years ago. Where I live, I don’t see much of anyone tipping more than 15% for “average” good service.

The problem there is that servers will often be cut from the service floor after only an hour or two. Then, there’s half an hour or more of cleaning up the mess made by the four tables s/he may have had in that amount of time. Also, most servers are clocked in and working at least half an hour before they ever see a guest (usually longer), so won’t be recieving any tips at all for a minimum of one hour of their scheduled shift.

The restaraunt managers want to keep their labor costs low, so only two or three servers per shift will actually stay until the end. That means that the majority of the staff will be working part time hours, but have to have a full time schedule open, since there is no specific time that most managers will start cutting servers from the floor.

Sounds great in theory, but when I compare the lifestyles of those I know who make $8 an hour to those I know waiting tables, it’s the servers who are getting the short end of the stick, as far as money goes.

Not every table has a full meal and there’s a turnover between tables besides. A server may not average $30 checks at your standard family resturant. A server might not even be averaging a full four tables an hour at your standard family restaurant. Someone has to clean the tables between seatings–and those tables are divided up by server, so they can’t just nab themselves new ones. Like Maggie C mentioned above, some of the time the servers have to clean those tables themselves. They also have to wrap silverware before they can go home and dozens of other little odd jobs for which there are no tips. At a Denny’s or an IHOP there’s probably a turnover surpassing what you suggested, but those checks are also smaller and from what I’ve seen the tips are of a smaller percentage to reflect the more distant service. Then, as has been mentioned above, before heading home, whatever tips your server may have made are divided up.

Sure, in theory it sounds perfect and reasonable and great and viva la 10%, but that’s in theory. And theories rarely hold up for long with human behavior. Obviously, something isn’t working with the system.

Oh gee, here I post a nice thing supporting waitstaff in general, then roisindubh posts such a stupid set of claims I just HAVE to respond. <sigh>

No, you don’t. You don’t WORK for me; you work for the restaurant. The restaurant promises me food in exchange for money; they pay YOU to deliver it to me in such a fashion I won’t get upset and stop coming there in the future to eat. Do you tip the clothing salesman at your local Marshall Field’s for the service they give you in selecting a nice outfit for the coming evening? Didn’t think so…

In light of the fact that you don’t receive anything close to this low in actuality, why SHOULD you be able to claim less? The bottom line to this silliness is that waitstaff spent years trying to avoid tax on their earnings by calling tips “gratuities”, then expecting them every time they provided service to a customer. Prove to me you earn less in tips than you are forced to declare, and I’ll be happy to support you in claiming the same to the IRS. On the contrary, I’m willing to bet you never in your entire career fully claimed your tip earnings.

What nonsense. These would have been covered by workers’ compensation benefits. Waitstaff, busboys, etc. are employees; unlike taxi drivers or pickle pickers, where the company will attempt to call them “independant contractors”. If any of the staff at the restaurant were unwilling to claim compensation benefits, including medical care and indemnity for lost wages, it’s probably because they were worried someone would figure out they were in the country illegally, not because your employer was refusing the benefits to which you or they were entitled as a worker. Not that we should let the facts and the law get in the way of a good story…

If your rent has quadrupled in 13 years, you need to move. I defy you to prove that average rents anywhere in the country have quadrupled in the last 13 years. And YES, I do expect that the rate of inflation in general and the rate of inflation in restaurant prices is keeping roughly equal; I also defy you to prove otherwise in that regard. I’ll be happy to eat my words if there is a significant variation.

Which simply shows that you were a mean-spirited person, with few if any ethics, whose thought process regarding how you calculated what was going on is hardly better than the thought process of the penny-pinching SOB who thinks it’s important to put 15% of 7% of the total less onto the table (we’re talking 1% of the bill here, or basically $0.15 on a $15 tab). Oh boy, that damn sure deserves spitting into the coffee, boy oh boy! :rolleyes:

Argument in favor of not including the tax when computing the tip.

Imagine 2 servers, Kim and Jane. Kim works in a state where there is no sales tax. Jane works in a state where there is a 8% sales tax. If the amount of tax should be included when calculating the tip, please explain why Jane deserves 8% more of a tip then Kim?

Unfortunatly, many servers are under the impression that our tips are a direct reflection of our guest check (bill) averages. Managers tell us this to promote sales increases. Directors of operations swear it to us. Yes, they should put a sign in the window expressing how much of a tip is expected, or program the computer systems to add the “service charge” automatically. They don’t, though.

To be entirely honest, I claim every dime I take home. I always have, and I will until I get a job that pays me in a real check. As long as I’ve been in this industry (on and off since 1999) I’ve been expected to claim 10-15% of my sales at the end of the shift. However, there have been nights, and often WEEKS when my tip average ran closer to 6-8%.

This assumes that everyone tips a percentage of the bill. I know people who’ll tip $5.00, no matter what their meal comes to. If they’re tipping for four people who eat a $75.00 meal, that’s the kind of tip that I’ve seen send new servers to the bathroom in tears. I’ve also seen people who’ll laugh and talk with me, and just go on and on about how great the service is…then leave me $2.00 on a $40.00 check.

Or, it means that this person ran his or her ass off for the table in question, smiled into the customers’ hair when they wouldn’t make eye contact, put up with running back and forth when the table decided they needed a different drink refilled every time the server brought them the last thing they requested, and ended up with a tip that didn’t measure up to the “15% is an average” rule. shrugs Depends on your perspective.

I have been reading The Straight Dope for over a decade. This column USED to be about the stuff that the encyclopedia left out. History, science, popular culture, folklore, and the like were the subjects of the columns. Now, it has degenerated to discussions about before or after tax tipping and job interview strategy. Cecil, please reclaim your column and put an end to this nonsense of “staff contributions”.