# Tips for traveling in the South **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 2, 2000, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766 "2000-09-02T07:18:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![rackensack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@rackensack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rackensack)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/61 "2000-09-06T03:02:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > \*\*Sugar does NOT go in cornbread. > \*\* Agreed. As I said [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=18449), the only thing I ever agreed with the late Lewis Grizzard about is that sugar in cornbread is an abomination in the sight of the Lord. _Note: the slight incoherence of the exchance between Ike and myself about cornbread in the linked thread above appears to be a result of some shift in the space-time continuum that occurred during one of the board upgrades_. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/62 "2000-09-06T04:25:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rackensack \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > > \*\*Sugar does NOT go in cornbread. > > \*\* > > Agreed. \*\* I only convinced Mrs. Plant, who hails from Long Island, by explaining that it is a state law. ---
**Author:** ![TN\_hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@TN\_hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TN_hippie)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/63 "2000-09-06T05:41:41Z")
Sugar in cornbread? I’ve seen it done, but it is frowned upon. To all y’all Texas folks: get out of this conversation. We were talking about The South, which is part of the United States of America. The Republic of Texas is a region all its own. Not that this is a _bad_ thing…just don’t claim independence and then turn around and express allegiance to The South, which is a section of a _real_ country. ---
**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/64 "2000-09-06T08:07:06Z")
Yes, nosotros is first person plural – “we.” Vosotros is second person plural – “y’all.” Ellos is third person plural. It serves as “they,” but it is also the formal plural “you” form when you throw in “ustedes” to clarify it. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/65 "2000-09-06T11:32:33Z")
Grits should never be contaminated with sugar and/or milk. Grits are not real grits unless they are stone-ground grits. Instant grits are okay in an emergency but they are not real grits. ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/66 "2000-09-06T12:39:00Z")
Hey. Whudya doin? Aw, not much. Too dang hot. Djeet? Naw, but mummandaddy did. Whuday have? Grits. Whuzaygood? Thaz ok. ‘Least they didn’ have milk n sugar inem. Yougonna go ta tha race Sayrdee? Shewt yeah. Got me un infield spot. Darlene n her boys gonna go with us. He likes that sonbitch Earnhart. (Long pause) Awright then. Weel talk atcha layder. OK. I’m gonna go get me a cocola. Dju wont one? Naw, I’m awright. Had me sum tea just a bit ago. OK. Bye. Bye now. Pure poetry. Also, to hear a woman with a slow, syrupy Southern accent say “yaas” (that’s “yes” to you Northern folks) - that’s good for your soul. ---
**Author:** ![TN\_hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@TN\_hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TN_hippie)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/67 "2000-09-06T12:52:29Z")
“Djeet” is simply “jeet.” “Sonbitch” is “ **sum** bitch.” Otherwise, well done. Or should I say “right purty.” Peace, TN\*hippie ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/68 "2000-09-06T12:58:28Z")
I’ll go along with the “sumbitch,” but at least here in VA we haven’t entirely dropped the “d” sound from “Did you eat.” Here its “djeet.” Not much of a “d,” but its lurking around in there somewhere. The question is usually asked “Djeetjet?” “Did you eat yet?” To which the only acceptable answer is “Naw, djew?” ---
**Author:** ![jesuslynch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jesuslynch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesuslynch)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/69 "2000-09-06T14:17:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rackensack \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by carnivorousplant \* > > \*\*Sugar does NOT go in cornbread. > > \*\* > > Agreed. \* \*\* Hey Rack. How ya doing. Also agree. And cornbread should only be made with white corn. Remember kiddies. White corn is for people. Yellow corn is for hogs. ---
**Author:** ![rackensack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@rackensack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rackensack)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/70 "2000-09-06T14:50:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jesuslynch \* > \*\*Hey Rack. How ya doing. > \*\* Quite well. Yourself? Looks like with **carnivorousplant** here, the Arkansas contingent is well-represented in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/71 "2000-09-06T15:08:30Z")
A Yankee chimes in to concur on the following: **Y’all:** second person plural, everywhere I’ve been in the South (primarily Columbia and Florence SC, Bristol VA/TN, central FL), and in south central KS, where I picked up the phrase from my cousins. **Grits:** butter, salt, and pepper here, thanks; other additives acceptable _except_ milk and sugar. **Cornbread:** _sugar??? WTF?!?_ My experience with **tea** has been as follows: _In the deep South:_ there’s tea (meaning sweet iced tea, as God intended) and unsweet. You might be able to find some hot tea at some places. _In the not-so-deep South:_ there’s tea (meaning unsweetened iced tea), sweet tea, and hot tea. _In the North:_ there’s tea (meaning hot tea) and iced tea (meaning unsweet). You can’t get sweet tea, because they’re under the misconception that you can sweeten a cold glass of tea, filled with ice cubes, by stirring in sugar. ---
**Author:** ![jesuslynch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jesuslynch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesuslynch)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/72 "2000-09-06T15:09:11Z")
Fair to middlin Rack. Thanks for the heads up about CP. Hadn’t looked at his profile before. Is he someone I should know? ---
**Author:** ![rackensack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@rackensack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rackensack)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/73 "2000-09-06T15:33:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jesuslynch \* > \*\*Fair to middlin Rack. Thanks for the heads up about CP. Hadn’t looked at his profile before. Is he someone I should know? \*\* I’m sure that he’d say so. For all I know, he may be someone you already know – he mentioned living in Arkansas in another thread (the one I linked in a previous post in this thread), and his profile says he’s in Little Rock. That’s about all I know. Except that his head’s in the right place about cornbread. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/74 "2000-09-06T16:46:40Z")
> [@](#): > > ), then they weren’t from Louisiana or Mississippi Well, they must have got those Cajun last names _somewhere_. FTR, the Louisianans I heard use the word incorectly were from Lafayette and the surrounding areas and were about as Cajun as you can get. The Mississippians were from Jackson. And I have had this happen many times when I was the only other person in the room. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/75 "2000-09-06T16:49:06Z")
I should note, however, that these people were in the minority. Most people I’ve run into around here say it correctly. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/76 "2000-09-06T16:51:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Not in Mississippi. If I order Coke, I get the original invented-in-Atlanta-and-first-bottled-in-Mississippi Coke. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe its th’other way around. Coke was invented in Vicksburg, and is bottled in Atlanta. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/77 "2000-09-06T17:26:36Z")
**rackensack** : > [@](#): > > Looks like with **carnivorousplant** here, the Arkansas contingent is well-represented in this thread. Arkansas? I thought you were here in Atlanta, **rackensack**. Now, regarding the Texas thing, I thought you got sweetened iced tea (or “sweettea” as we call it here) in East Texas, which is culturally more similar to the South (but still not the South, I can’t stress this enough), but from about Houston and Dallas westward it’s all unsweetened. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/78 "2000-09-06T18:05:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Connor \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > Not in Mississippi. If I order Coke, I get the original invented-in-Atlanta-and-first-bottled-in-Mississippi Coke. > > Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe its th’other way around. Coke was invented in Vicksburg, and is bottled in Atlanta. \*\* Nope. It was first bottled in 1894, in Vickburg, MS. Coke was actually invented earlier. Ironic, that when you visit that massive museum in Atlanta, you have to be careful or otherwise you’ll miss mention of where it was first bottled. Which if it hadn’t been, would have left the whole industry in a different shape. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/79 "2000-09-06T18:20:58Z")
TN\*hippie: neener, neener, neener. 😛 Snoooopy: not according to my spanish textbook or any spanish class I’ve ever taken ---
**Author:** ![rackensack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@rackensack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rackensack)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2000, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766/80 "2000-09-06T18:23:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Five \* > \*\ ***rackensack** : > > > [@](#): > > > > Looks like with **carnivorousplant** here, the Arkansas contingent is well-represented in this thread. > > Arkansas? I thought you were here in Atlanta, **rackensack**. > > \*\* I’ve lived in Atlanta for fourteen years now, but I’m **from** Arkansas, with all of the good, bad and ugly that entails. My sensibilities were shaped by living in eastern Arkansas farm towns of 2000 people or fewer for the first twelve years of my life, then in Fayetteville (the site of the University of Arkansas) for most of my junior high and high school years. Most native Arkansawyers I know continue to identify strongly with the state, even if most who’ve left (like me) wouldn’t want to live there again for anything. **Jesuslynch** and I knew each other in college (in a school with only 1000 students, you pretty much knew everyone). We deduced the connection from clues in each others’ posts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tips-for-traveling-in-the-south/31766.md?page=5)