# Tired of hatin' on the Texans? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 30, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316 "2009-03-30T15:37:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Batfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Batfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batfish)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/1 "2009-03-30T15:37:21Z")
Try some Okies instead. [http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090330\_11\_A1\_Statel165138](http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20090330_11_A1_Statel165138) To paraphrase the late Molly Ivins, if Oklahoma state legislators weren’t stupid, ill-informed and narrow-minded they wouldn’t be a representative body. However, first time I ever felt affectionate toward David Boren, if he’d offer to resign if the lege’s efforts continue he’d even have my respect. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/2 "2009-03-30T15:43:13Z")
“The idea that the university could only hear opinions with which the majority of Oklahomans agree is bizarre and offensive”, Dawkins said. What else needs to be said. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/3 "2009-03-30T15:51:51Z")
I like the comments at the bottom. “What do you bet they never get around to inviting ‘the other side’?” You mean the one that Oklahoma is apparently already steeped in such that Dawkins causes this kind of furor? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/4 "2009-03-30T16:18:47Z")
In the interest of fairly and accurately representing the other side, I hereby present the alternate scientific theory in full: goddidit. That should satisfy the legislature. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/5 "2009-03-30T16:36:25Z")
I’ve always thought of Texas as “Baja Oklahoma”. That covers me for both. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/6 "2009-03-30T16:38:10Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I like the comments at the bottom. “What do you bet they never get around to inviting ‘the other side’?” You mean the one that Oklahoma is apparently already steeped in such that Dawkins causes this kind of furor? I always wonder what they mean by “the other side”. Evolution is to Creationism as sociology is to “Awwww… puppies!” ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/7 "2009-03-30T20:09:16Z")
I’m guessing that Oklahoma is like Alabama in that there are many intelligent people who are progressive in their views and are continually embarassed by things like this in their state and who understand on every level why this is wrong, and I feel sorry for them. BUT DAMN it’s nice to not have this happening in Alabama for a change.😃 I love the “accountability to taxpayers” line when one of the world’s most famous scientists just waived his speakers fee to come speak at the university. I’ve no idea what his speaking fee is, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s upwards of $25,000- I’d be stunned if it were less than $15,000. Waiving it is a pretty big thing (and he’s donating $5,000 to boot). On a similar note (I haven’t checked to see if there’s a thread so apologies if there is), many of the more conservative Catholics affiliated with Notre Dame are up in arms over[Obama delivering the commencement](http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/obama-visit-to-notre-dame-provokes-debate/?hp)address. As much as I loathed Bush, I honestly can say I’d be far more curious as to what he has to say and appreciative that I’ll always be able to remember who spoke at my graduation (I have no idea who spoke at mine— IIRC he or she was a lawyer… or maybe a doctor) than I would be irate over Bush being there. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/8 "2009-03-30T20:12:48Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > On a similar note (I haven’t checked to see if there’s a thread so apologies if there is), many of the more conservative Catholics affiliated with Notre Dame are up in arms over[Obama delivering the commencement](http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/obama-visit-to-notre-dame-provokes-debate/?hp)address. As much as I loathed Bush, I honestly can say I’d be far more curious as to what he has to say and appreciative that I’ll always be able to remember who spoke at my graduation (I have no idea who spoke at mine— IIRC he or she was a lawyer… or maybe a doctor) than I would be irate over Bush being there. There was a local sports talk radio guy going off about that this morning. I guess it’s within his purview because Notre Dame used to be good at sports. Wonder if the ND student health center gives out free condoms? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/9 "2009-03-30T20:39:00Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Wonder if the ND student health center gives out free condoms? It’s a Catholic school, so I’d imagine not. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/10 "2009-03-30T21:32:15Z")
Oklahoma is one of the few states that actually [voted more conservative](http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html)in the last election. The stupid is strong in that one. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/11 "2009-03-30T23:28:13Z")
I grew up in New Mexico, so, no, I can never really get tired of hating on the Texans. That said, this story is some powerful stupid right there. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/12 "2009-03-31T13:24:24Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > I grew up in New Mexico, so, no, I can never really get tired of hating on the Texans. That said, this story is some powerful stupid right there. I grew up in Texas and I can never really get tired of hating on the Texans. I do try, however, to ignore the terrible tidal wave of stupid that washes over Oklahoma on a repetitive basis. Texas is a scary place, its true. But, if Oklahoma were to be suddenly populated 99% by Zombies, one would see little difference, except for a slight rise in the average IQ level among the citizens. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/13 "2009-03-31T14:15:06Z")
Good Lord, they are like Kansas, but with less scenic geography. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/14 "2009-03-31T14:21:17Z")
It’s been said before, but it bears repeating: Texas is cosmopolitan, modern, and progressive compared to it’s northern neighbor. ---
**Author:** ![Daylate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9dc877/32.png) [@Daylate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daylate)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/15 "2009-03-31T16:55:49Z")
I think it was General Sherman who, in answer to a question about Texas, famously replied, “If I owned Hell and Texas, I’d rent out Texas and live in Hell.” ---
**Author:** ![PeskiPiksi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e495f1/32.png) [@PeskiPiksi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeskiPiksi)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/16 "2009-03-31T17:22:04Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m guessing that Oklahoma is like Alabama in that there are many intelligent people who are progressive in their views and are continually embarassed by things like this in their state and who understand on every level why this is wrong, and I feel sorry for them. Hi there. We’re not all like this, I swear. It’s just the noisy ones that get all the attention. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/17 "2009-03-31T17:25:55Z")
> [@Daylate](#): > > I think it was General Sherman who, in answer to a question about Texas, famously replied, “If I owned Hell and Texas, I’d rent out Texas and live in Hell.” General Sheridan ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/18 "2009-03-31T17:31:52Z")
Oklahoma was the first state in which I saw a road sign saying “Warning: Hitchhikers may be escaping prisoners.” It’s also the only state I’ve seen with a sign saying “Do not drive into smoke on highway.” ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/19 "2009-03-31T17:37:43Z")
I’ve driven across Oklahoma more times than I care to remember. As much as I dislike Texas, I would probably slit my wrists if I had to live in Oklahoma. I recall a joke about the Aggie who moved from Texas to Oklahoma, raising the IQ level of both states in the process. (Aggies are students of Texas A&M University, actually a great school, but the students are targeted with good-natured jokes like that.) ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Sensitive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58956e/32.png) [@Darth\_Sensitive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Sensitive)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/20 "2009-03-31T17:44:19Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Oklahoma was the first state in which I saw a road sign saying “Warning: Hitchhikers may be escaping prisoners.” It’s also the only state I’ve seen with a sign saying “Do not drive into smoke on highway.” Both are good pieces or advice. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316.md?page=2)