# Tired of hatin' on the Texans?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 30, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316 "2009-03-30T15:37:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/21 "2009-03-31T17:49:13Z")

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Well, Oklahoma produced Amy Vowell, so they’re OK(l-a-h… sorry) by me for that if nothing else.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/22 "2009-03-31T17:50:52Z")

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Who is Amy Vowell? 😕

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/23 "2009-03-31T18:10:34Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Who is Amy Vowell? 😕

I think she invented the 1st, 5th, 9th, 15th, and 21st letters of the alphabet.

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**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/24 "2009-03-31T18:28:20Z")

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> [@PeskiPiksi](#):
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> Hi there.
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> We’re not all like this, I swear. It’s just the noisy ones that get all the attention.

Holy shit, that makes 8 of us! One more and we can start a softball team.

Oh, you’re in Tulsa. Liberal, elitist northeasterner.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/25 "2009-03-31T18:54:40Z")

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> [@Darth\_Sensitive](#):
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> Both are good pieces or advice.

True, true. One might even argue that they are such good ideas that they might even be common sense.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/26 "2009-03-31T19:17:32Z")

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Hold up a sign that says “Help! I am fleeing, and prisoners are in pursuit!”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/27 "2009-03-31T19:53:44Z")

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> [@Turek](#):
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> I think she invented the 1st, 5th, 9th, 15th, and 21st letters of the alphabet.

She has a ongoing civil action about the patent on the 25th, too.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/28 "2009-03-31T21:29:58Z")

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My bad- [Sarah Vowell](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Vowell). (There is an Amy Vowell- her twin sister in fact- who due to a long boring reason I confused her name with for a sec.)

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**Author:** ![Batfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Batfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batfish)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/29 "2009-03-31T22:14:21Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> Good Lord, they are like Kansas, but with less scenic geography.

Hey! I started this thread to beat up on the ignorant pandering state politicians, but if you’re going to take shots at the perfectly innocent bystander that is the geography(ies) you need to back it up with some cites.

Here’s mine. [Oklahoma - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma)

> [@wikipedia](#):
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> Among the most geographically diverse states, Oklahoma is one of four to harbor more than 10 distinct ecological regions, with 11 in its borders — more per square mile than in any other state. Its western and eastern halves, however, are marked by extreme differences in geographical diversity: Eastern Oklahoma touches eight ecological regions and its western half contains three.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/30 "2009-03-31T22:25:31Z")

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> Eastern Oklahoma touches eight ecological regions

That’s like saying I’m a world class basketball player because I shook hands with Lebron James.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/31 "2009-03-31T22:43:26Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Oklahoma was the first state in which I saw a road sign saying “Warning: Hitchhikers may be escaping prisoners.”

That happens to be right next to Stringtown, where there is a medium security prison. I’ve never gotten enough of making fun of that sign. Here’s a bonus from the Stringtown Wiki Page:

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> Originally named Springtown, for the natural springs that flow out of the hills the town is built upon, the current name is believed to be a corruption.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/32 "2009-03-31T23:00:03Z")

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My favorite Oklahoma sign was one that read: Going to Tinker?, followed by the name of a motel. The reference was to Tinker Air Force Base—I think it was an air force base.

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**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/33 "2009-03-31T23:52:28Z")

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> [@Batfish](#):
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> Hey! I started this thread to beat up on the ignorant pandering state politicians, but if you’re going to take shots at the perfectly innocent bystander that is the geography(ies) you need to back it up with some cites.
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> Here’s mine. [Oklahoma - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma)

I was going to say the Wikipedia entry reads like it was written by the Chamber of Commerce, then I discovered that parts of it were. Consider  
[QUOTE=Wikipedia]  
Oklahoma relies on an economic base of aviation, energy, telecommunications, and biotechnology[6]  
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The reference?  
[QUOTE=Wikipedia]  
“Oklahoma at a Glance” (pdf). Oklahoma Department of Commerce. [http://staging.okcommerce.gov/test1/dmdocuments/Oklahoma\_At\_A\_Glance\_0602061749.pdf](http://staging.okcommerce.gov/test1/dmdocuments/Oklahoma_At_A_Glance_0602061749.pdf). Retrieved on 2007-08-01.  
[/QUOTE]  
Which has exactly one reference to biotech, namely  
[QUOTE=Wikipedia]  
The fourth-largest biotech company in the world, Genzyme, recently acquired technology from Oklahoma City’s Novazyme, a biotech firm developing enzyme replacement drug therapies to treat rare genetic disorders  
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That’s one serious pillar of the economic base.  
Further physiographic fun:

[QUOTE=Wikipedia]  
Cavanal Hill is regarded by the Oklahoma Tourism & Recreation Department as the world’s tallest hill; at 1,999 feet (609 m), it fails their definition of a mountain by one foot.[23]  
[/QUOTE]

Oh, those wily Okies! None of those fancy-pants city folk tourists from back East will figure out that it’s a made up definition.

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**Author:** ![Daylate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9dc877/32.png) [@Daylate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daylate)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/34 "2009-04-01T00:14:16Z")

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Quote:

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> Originally Posted by Daylate  
> I think it was General Sherman who, in answer to a question about Texas, famously replied, “If I owned Hell and Texas, I’d rent out Texas and live in Hell.”
> 
> General Sheridan

You’re right - I sometimes get my Civil War generals mixed up.

Gen Sheridan also was the author of the statement: “The only good Indian I ever saw was dead.”, which eventually became “The only good Indian is a dead Indian.” Had a way with words, did old Phillip.

Actually, he always denied saying that last one.

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**Author:** ![Batfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Batfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batfish)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/35 "2009-04-01T01:50:46Z")

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Just so you know it’s not just the rednecks.

[http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=18&articleid=20090331\_298\_0\_Bishop275873](http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=18&articleid=20090331_298_0_Bishop275873)

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/36 "2009-04-01T03:14:51Z")

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How else will the students of Oklahoma! be protected from being indoctrinated into the cult of science? Huh?

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/37 "2009-04-01T03:40:33Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> My bad- [Sarah Vowell](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Vowell). (There is an Amy Vowell- her twin sister in fact- who due to a long boring reason I confused her name with for a sec.)

Thanks for the link, because you saved me from having to ask who Sarah Vowell was. 😃 I’m afraid her fame has not stretched this far, but she does sound cool.

> [@LouisB](#):
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> My favorite Oklahoma sign was one that read: Going to Tinker?, followed by the name of a motel. The reference was to Tinker Air Force Base—I think it was an air force base.

I recall a big exit sign on I-40 in eastern Oklahoma that said “Tenkiller Greenleaf.” I think Tenkiller and Greenleaf are two different places, but I’ve always thought Tenkiller Greenleaf would make a great name.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-hatin-on-the-texans/491316/38 "2009-04-01T03:43:27Z")

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Maui Wowee is for pussies. Tenkiller Greenleaf is the \*serious \*shit.

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