# Tired of Trump? Move to Cape Breton! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 18, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-trump-move-to-cape-breton/746468 "2016-02-18T18:12:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Carryon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc29f/32.png) [@Carryon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carryon)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-trump-move-to-cape-breton/746468/21 "2016-02-22T23:16:33Z")
> [@Cognoscant](#): > > Immigration Canada wouldn’t guarantee my wife a visa after _she was offered a job there_. She had to turn it down. Sorry Cape Breton, I think we’re all going to have to pass on this. I know a few people this has happened to. For all the criticism, America’s immigration is far more liberal than most people realize or will admit. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-trump-move-to-cape-breton/746468/22 "2016-02-23T20:29:45Z")
> [@Carryon](#): > > I know a few people this has happened to. For all the criticism, America’s immigration is far more liberal than most people realize or will admit. I realize this is a light-hearted thread about the Canadian Maritimes and I hesitate to get into serious GD territory, but as several have already made comments along these lines I feel I should set the record straight. Quite simply, that assertion is just flat-out wrong. We had [a related discussion about immigration in GD](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19045651&postcount=3) and I want to quote a poster there who understands the issue and I believe got it exactly right – note in particular the part the I bolded [emphasis mine]: > [@Are immigrants today fundamentally the same as the immigrants from yesteryear?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-immigrants-today-fundamentally-the-same-as-the-immigrants-from-yesteryear/744182/3): > > Previous waves of immigration (prior to WWII) involved people from all walks of life because there were really no immigration laws in America … Modern immigrants must fit much narrower, stratified classifications. They tend to either be unusually high-status (well-educated, rich) or unusually low-status (refugees or illegal). **It is extraordinarily difficult for a middle-of-the-road immigrant to get here and do middle or lower-middle class work–they can really only come as family members of people already here**. So especially for new immigrant groups from post-1970 waves, there is a very stratified class. Basically the only way to immigrate to the US, other than as a refugee claimant, is either as a sponsored immediate family member or attested as being in a highly skilled special class. Anyone who qualifies for immigration to the US will, generally speaking, also qualify for immigration to Canada, PLUS Canada has other immigration options the US does not have. Specifically, Canada has general immigration options for ordinary middle-class people based on a point system that evaluates their skills and education and may in some cases also weigh that against the domestic job market. IOW, Canada is generally _ **more** _ welcoming of average immigrants than the US, not less. The misconceptions seem to arise from Americans who simplistically and mistakenly believe that just being offered a job in Canada should qualify them for automatic immigration status. It doesn’t work that way in any first-world nation, AFAIK, and least of all in the US. I suggest they consult their own country’s immigration rules before criticizing someone else’s. Canada has also been more welcoming of refugees. Last year the Canadian government committed to an immediate acceptance of 25,000 Syrian refugees who are currently in the process of being resettled. By that standard, considering ten times the population and infrastructure, the US should proportionately be admitting 250,000. In fact as far as I can tell, there’s some nebulous commitment to just 10,000, and it’s not clear how many – if any – have actually been admitted, and some politicians are pushing for that number to be zero. Sorry for the digression but the quoted statement was such an egregious misconception that I just had to comment on it. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-trump-move-to-cape-breton/746468/23 "2016-02-23T20:49:54Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Related VICE article: [Memo to Americans Afraid of Donald Trump: Cape Breton Is Not a Progressive Paradise](http://www.vice.com/read/memo-to-americans-afraid-of-donald-trump-cape-breton-is-not-a-progressive-paradise) I have a feeling that these guys are missing the point of the website - both those who seriously trumpet the place as a progressive paradise, and the ‘de-bunkers’ who point out it is, in fact, a relatively underserviced rural location with a relatively undiverse population … and that it that the website is really a bit of lighthearted local boosterism. 😉 Taking it rather too seriously, I think. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-trump-move-to-cape-breton/746468/24 "2016-02-24T20:26:38Z")
We visited Nova Scotia few years ago and spent some time on CBI. Beautiful, without a doubt especially the Cabot Trail. We had kayaks and paddled near White Point. I was amazed at how warm the water was in mid-September - at least 70 F. Great people everywhere we went. I don’t know if i could live up there in the dead of winter, though. Also, we were within 20’ or so of a bull moose in velvet when walking along a popular trail. Those things are HUGE! I guess he was used to people because he acted as if we weren’t even there. A little ways down the trail we encountered a cow and a calf (only the size of a horse but bore a distinct resemblance to the bull ). They too, were non-plussed. Anyway, I heartily endorse a visit to Cape Breton, if not actual emigration. ---
**Author:** ![orcenio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/orcenio/32/1036_2.png) [@orcenio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/orcenio)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-trump-move-to-cape-breton/746468/25 "2016-03-01T16:17:49Z")
I’d like to share this humongous local news story. Basically…CNN is comin’ to town. 🙂 [CNN to report from Cape Breton during Super Tuesday coverage](http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=818969&binId=1.1145463&playlistPageNum=1). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tired-of-trump-move-to-cape-breton/746468.md?page=1)