# "Titan" submersible investigation begins \[28-June-2023\]

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** breaking-news\
**Created:** [June 28, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242 "2023-06-28T16:34:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/341 "2023-11-09T14:06:15Z")

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Kinda like taking a squeeze bottle of ketchup, laying it on a large anvil, and dropping a car on it. **Splort!**

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/342 "2023-11-09T14:08:52Z")

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Thank you for that image. 😆

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/343 "2024-03-08T00:06:00Z")

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There’s a new documentary:

> **[Titan Sub Tragedy: New Documentary Clip Features Banging Sounds Heard Amid...](https://www.eonline.com/news/1396165/titan-sub-tragedy-new-documentary-clip-features-banging-sounds-heard-amid-search)**
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> The Titan Sub Disaster: Minute by Minute, a new documentary spotlighting the Titan submersible implosion, will also include the unusual banging noises that gave hope of finding its passengers.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/344 "2024-03-08T02:14:27Z")

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For Christmas, I got my Titanic obsessed son a downloadable game where you pilot a submersible to the wreck. In-game, the sub looks suspiciously like the OceanGate Titan. True to form, the difficult-to-control sub never gets anywhere near the Titanic before you briefly get a depth warning (regardless of your depth) and then you die in a catastrophic failure. Every time no matter what you try to do.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/345 "2024-03-08T02:17:10Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Don’t you have a dock in US courtrooms?

Only if the flag has gold fringe.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/346 "2024-03-08T02:50:21Z")

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Well-played, sir. 😁

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
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> [@garygnu](#):
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> Every time no matter what you try to do.

Art imitates Life.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2024, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/348 "2024-03-08T05:15:23Z")

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I was in St. John’s, Newfoundland, last October, for a conference. It was in a nice hotel, overlooking the harbour, and the hotel bar/restaurant certainly overlooked the harbour, with nice big windows. It was a popular gathering spot for us after the day’s proceedings were over.

Lots of fun and laughter, and meeting new people, and enjoying watching the harbour traffic come and go, until someone said, “Wasn’t over there [pointing] where they brought up the remains of that submersible that imploded last June?”

Kinda put a damper on happy hour that day.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/349 "2024-03-11T23:27:00Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> True to form, the difficult-to-control sub never gets anywhere near the Titanic before you briefly get a depth warning (regardless of your depth) and then you die in a catastrophic failure. Every time no matter what you try to do.

The 2020’s version of “You have died of dysentery.”

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/350 "2024-03-12T02:09:29Z")

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So, pretty accurate sim then.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/351 "2024-03-31T20:05:51Z")

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A new documentary that may be of interest …

> **[The deadly dive to the Titanic](https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/features/deadly-dive-to-the-titanic)**
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> Canadian authorities watched an experimental submersible come and go from St. John’s Harbour for three years before it imploded with five passengers onboard as they made their way toward the wreck of the Titanic.

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**Author:** ![pjd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pjd/32/3009_2.png) [@pjd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pjd)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/352 "2024-05-28T11:36:59Z")

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Now someone else is having a go …

> **[Billionaire building $20m sub to prove Titanic wreck site can be visited safely](https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/titan-sub-titanic-larry-connor-oceangate-triton-b2552381.html)**
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> The billionaire wants to prove Titanic can be visited safely

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/353 "2024-05-28T11:45:32Z")

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> [@pjd](#):
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> Now someone else is having a go … -  
> [Billionaire building $20m sub to prove Titanic wreck site can be visited safely after Titan disaster | The Independent](https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/titan-sub-titanic-larry-connor-oceangate-triton-b2552381.html)

Even better if they can get back safely.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/354 "2024-05-28T14:25:36Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Even better if they can get back safely.

Same with climbing Everest.

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**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2024, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/355 "2024-05-28T14:39:34Z")

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In the 1929 version of “They Mysterious Island,” there’s this exchange between Count Dakkar (Lionel Barrymore) and another person:

Dakkar: “I’m going to build a ship that can go to the bottom of the sea.”

Other person: “Lots of people have done that!”

Dakkar: [Chuckling] “Yes, but mine is going to come back up again!”

OK, that’s all I have.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/356 "2024-05-29T13:59:08Z")

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The article says he’s hiring Triton Submarines to build the sub for him. Triton has built 25 submersibles and have a 100% safety record. They’ve built a submersible with unlimited depth certification from the DNV. It seems if you’re a billionaire who wants a sub, hiring them is the correct way to do it, as opposed to starting your own company, buying some second hand carbon fibre, mixing epoxy by hand and cleaning the mating surfaces with a rag, and hiring the Deep Ones to run your legal department.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/357 "2024-05-29T14:07:09Z")

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Yes, there never was any question that the Titanic, or Challenger Deep, for that matter, can be safely visited. The question is, can they be visited safely in a poorly made composite-hulled vessel that ignores safety and a hundred years of experience? THAT answer was demonstrated quite convincingly.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/358 "2024-05-29T14:48:24Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> The article says he’s hiring Triton Submarines to build the sub for him. Triton has built 25 submersibles and have a 100% safety record. They’ve built a submersible with unlimited depth certification from the DNV. It seems if you’re a billionaire who wants a sub, hiring them is the correct way to do it, as opposed to starting your own company, buying some second hand carbon fibre, mixing epoxy by hand and cleaning the mating surfaces with a rag, and hiring the Deep Ones to run your legal department.

But… but… he was a _disruptor_.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/359 "2024-05-29T15:05:30Z")

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You have to take into account the “ego factor” He was going to show the world that he could do the whole thing from beginning to end. … NOT!

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titan-submersible-investigation-begins-28-june-2023/986242/360 "2024-05-29T15:07:23Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> and hiring the Deep Ones to run your legal department.

I have it on good authority that Marsh & Associates are among the finest maritime lawyers in the business. For some reason they’ve got an incredible affinity for the sea that give them a fin up on competition.

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