# Titanic- 100 years sgo today she foundered

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 14, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752 "2012-04-14T11:23:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/1 "2012-04-14T11:23:00Z")

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I guess it was a big deal. There have been lots of lives lost at sea and each one in its own way is sad.

Maybe the Lusitania was as tragic. If you were a victim it didn’t matter.

Anyway, I guess it gave Bruce Ismay the chance to show what a hero he was.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/2 "2012-04-14T12:14:16Z")

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I thought it was tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/3 "2012-04-14T12:22:04Z")

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I guess that depends what time zone you are in.

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**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/4 "2012-04-14T12:28:22Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Maybe the Lusitania was as tragic. If you were a victim it didn’t matter.

Snap! Exactly my thought too. History tells us that the sinking of the Lusitania was far far more significant than the foundering of the Titanic.

Indeed the shelling and eventual sinking of the Bismarck was more important than a passenger liner which experienced a sad end.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/5 "2012-04-14T12:42:23Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> I guess that depends what time zone you are in.

What time zone was it in when it sunk?

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/6 "2012-04-14T12:54:12Z")

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Oh Lordy- are you serious? We have to work out a time stamp before we can post about the death/ birth/ anniversary of any event because it needs to agree with your version of the world?

The world does not revolve around you and your time zone.

And , in passing, could a Mod please fix my typing error in the title? Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/7 "2012-04-14T13:26:53Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Oh Lordy- are you serious? We have to work out a time stamp before we can post about the death/ birth/ anniversary of any event because it needs to agree with your version of the world?
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> The world does not revolve around you and your time zone.
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> And , in passing, could a Mod please fix my typing error in the title? Thanks.

Didn’t see your location. My bad and apologies all around. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/8 "2012-04-14T13:34:17Z")

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No- it should be my apologies for getting defensive. Please accept them.

I assumed - a bad mistake- that posters knew I was in a different place. I meant no malice. 🙂

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/9 "2012-04-14T15:07:13Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> I meant no malice. 🙂

There’s a town called that, isn’t there..?

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/10 "2012-04-14T15:09:31Z")

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> [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](#):
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> There’s a town called that, isn’t there..?

Malice Springs to mind- what a dump. I was glad to leave 🙂

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/11 "2012-04-14T15:28:04Z")

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Aw come on! Where’s your sense of adventure? It’s the Last Frontier!

From the Titanic to Alice Springs - I guess it still has some kind of water theme…

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/12 "2012-04-14T15:34:02Z")

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Go to Tennant Creek, a 100 miles up the road. That is a dump.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/13 "2012-04-14T15:42:06Z")

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Tonight is the anniversary of the collision, the wee hours of tomorrow is the anniversary of the sinking.

We have tickets to tonight’s showing of the Titanic musical, which is a pretty good show.

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/14 "2012-04-14T15:46:51Z")

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360kms to Curtain Springs Cattle Station - now THAT is an entertaining dump where a slab of VB costs $130…

Anyway, you’re making your Titanic thread a disaster…😃

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/15 "2012-04-14T18:42:40Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Anyway, I guess it gave Bruce Ismay the chance to show what a hero he was.

He really has been badly libeled by history–his real mistake was not handing over the “iceberg warning” to Capt. Smith earlier, though there is no proof that would have made any difference.

I do not blame him a bit for getting into a ready-to-launch lifeboat when there was no one else around waiting. What was he supposed to do, say, “No, thanks, I’d rather die a horrible freezing death, you can just put your coat on that seat?”

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/16 "2012-04-15T17:06:42Z")

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I’m debating seeing the movie in 3D today in honor of the centennial. Despite the lame romance, the depiction of the sinking is pretty intense.

The last time I saw it in the theatre was opening night in '97. It was packed to the gills, I was wearing my winter coat in the front row craning my neck and sweating my ass off as I watched people drown in the freezing North Atlantic. This time, I’m wearing shorts.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/17 "2012-04-15T17:12:01Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> He really has been badly libeled by history–his real mistake was not handing over the “iceberg warning” to Capt. Smith earlier, though there is no proof that would have made any difference.
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> I do not blame him a bit for getting into a ready-to-launch lifeboat when there was no one else around waiting. What was he supposed to do, say, “No, thanks, I’d rather die a horrible freezing death, you can just put your coat on that seat?”

Regarding Ismay-it seems he was shunned by “high society”-after returning to England, he spent his days at a remote estate.  
Did he ever publish his memoirs?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/18 "2012-04-15T18:25:32Z")

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Kim Il-Sung was born the same day.

What a bad day in history.

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**Author:** ![Maiira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Maiira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maiira)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/19 "2012-04-15T19:02:02Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> He really has been badly libeled by history–his real mistake was not handing over the “iceberg warning” to Capt. Smith earlier, though there is no proof that would have made any difference.
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> I do not blame him a bit for getting into a ready-to-launch lifeboat when there was no one else around waiting. What was he supposed to do, say, “No, thanks, I’d rather die a horrible freezing death, you can just put your coat on that seat?”

Yeah, IIRC, not a lot of the actual survivors had bad things to say about him. It was mostly the press that did that.

Masabumi Hosono (the one Japanese passenger) had it worse, though: he was reviled in Japan for surviving when so many others had died, and Japanese history textbooks painted him as a coward.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-100-years-sgo-today-she-foundered/618752/20 "2012-04-15T19:45:50Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> Tonight is the anniversary of the collision, the wee hours of tomorrow is the anniversary of the sinking.
> 
> We have tickets to tonight’s showing of the Titanic musical, which is a pretty good show.

We saw the show - very well done performance, excellent set - we actually saw the ship sink! Seeing the show on the anniversary of the event established a real connection - gave it definite resonance.

Even more so, the actor playing the most famous victim, John Jacob Astor IV, was in fact Todd Astor, great-grandson of said John Jacob Astor. Sent shivers down my back.

The program for the show noted that the number of lives lost was approximately the capacity of the theater, which was packed. More shivers.

After the show, there was the usual crowd all attempting to leave the theater at once. I heard someone shout “Women and children first!”

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