# "Titanic -- By the visionary director of Avatar"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 26, 2012, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828 "2012-03-26T09:02:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/41 "2012-03-26T17:57:02Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> The reason that they’re re-releasing _Titanic_ is that they’ve converted it to 3D.

It’s also the 100th anniversary of the Titanic. I think they would have re-released it anyway, to capitalize on that. Now that 3D is so popular, of course they can use it to bring in even more $$.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/42 "2012-03-26T18:37:53Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> ‘presumably’

The rap on Cameron is that he is demanding and won’t accept less than technical perfection. _Titanic_ employed an army of experts to make sure every fork and spoon was correct. I have no doubt that this will be the best 2D to 3D conversion ever. I won’t see it of course, as I can’t see 3D.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/43 "2012-03-26T18:49:07Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> The rap on Cameron is that he is demanding and won’t accept less than technical perfection. _Titanic_ employed an army of experts to make sure every fork and spoon was correct. I have no doubt that this will be the best 2D to 3D conversion ever. I won’t see it of course, as I can’t see 3D.

You must run into things a lot. 😉

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/44 "2012-03-26T18:55:39Z")

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All I can say is, the 3D they showed in the trailers looked like the same low-quality 3D conversion you see in conversions made by non-perfectionist directors. I guess it’s possible they’re still working on it and it’ll look stunning when it hits the theaters, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/45 "2012-03-26T19:04:35Z")

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In 3D, they have even less of an excuse excuse for not seeing that iceberg in time…

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/46 "2012-03-26T19:09:34Z")

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> [@Sr\_Siete](#):
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> That can’t be true. I mean, if that’s true then I’m insanely old and I’ve wasted my life.

You and James Wright both.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/47 "2012-03-26T21:42:26Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#):
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> In 3D, they have even less of an excuse excuse for not seeing that iceberg in time…

This the Director’s Special Edition Cut. In this one, the Titanic is just sitting there and the iceberg runs into it.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/48 "2012-03-26T22:07:13Z")

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The strayed into Soviet Russian territory?

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/49 "2012-03-26T22:10:22Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> The rap on Cameron is that he is demanding and won’t accept less than technical perfection.

The problem with James Cameron is he’s an artist (literally - with a pencil and paints and all that. He did the sketch of naked Rose himself), and is able to do most things involved in a movie himself, and do them really well; everything short of the music score. So when he imagines a scene in his head, he knows precisely what’s involved to achieve it, and therefore doesn’t suffer fools or lazy approaches to getting his vision on screen.

You just can’t fudge things or pull the wool over his eyes, like you can with most other Directors, and therefore he comes across as demanding.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/50 "2012-03-26T22:16:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Being a poor black child, I couldn’t afford it.  
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I don’t think it even played in the black theaters where I live.

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/51 "2012-03-26T22:54:27Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Now, I don’t especially love _Titanic_- I thought it was o.k. but there are better movies I can watch to see Kate Winslet’s breasts.

In 3D???

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/52 "2012-03-26T23:01:55Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> You must run into things a lot. 😉

It’s perfectly reasonable. My eyes are a lot better now, but with my lazy eye I used to have to rely on alternative cues like shading to get 3d. I didn’t really have any noticeable sort of stereoscopic vision, so 2D and 3D were more or less the same. Nowadays my eyes work together, but being unable to see 3D in any meaningful sense is possible.

That or WHOOSH on me.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/53 "2012-03-26T23:04:13Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I don’t think it even played in the black theaters where I live.

You mean steerage?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/54 "2012-03-26T23:33:49Z")

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From the visionary director of _Piranha II_

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/55 "2012-03-26T23:42:42Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> **Holy Crap** , is the one about The Little Mermaid true?

Hey, you know when people talk about “the thirties” to invoke an era of economic upheaval and Depression and the growing rumblings of war?  
The 2030s are a lot closer.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/56 "2012-03-26T23:48:36Z")

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Only way I’d see it is if this version had Skynet send a t-800 back in time to steer the ship away from the iceberg, so that Celine Dion never becomes famous.

Oh, wait, Supernatural already did that (without the Terminator connection anyway)

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**Author:** ![JoelUpchurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@JoelUpchurch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoelUpchurch)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/57 "2012-03-27T00:42:11Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> 14 years since _The Matrix_, 12 years since _Fellowship of the Ring_.
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> I don’t understand how this happened either.

Cry me a river. 35 years since Star Wars

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/58 "2012-03-27T01:05:24Z")

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> [@JoelUpchurch](#):
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> Cry me a river. 35 years since Star Wars

Yeah, but it feels like it. 80s and 70s movies seem like ages ago. But 90s movies seem like just a year or two back.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/59 "2012-03-27T01:20:17Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> The problem with James Cameron is he’s an artist (literally - with a pencil and paints and all that. He did the sketch of naked Rose himself)

That scene wasn’t in the original script. But when Kate Winslet caught him doodling pictures of her naked, a claim that he was drawing it for a new scene was the best story he could come up with.

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**Author:** ![Sin\_Serially](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Sin\_Serially](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sin_Serially)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-by-the-visionary-director-of-avatar/616828/60 "2012-03-27T01:56:20Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> The rap on Cameron is that he is demanding and won’t accept less than technical perfection. _Titanic_ employed an army of experts to make sure every fork and spoon was correct. I have no doubt that this will be the best 2D to 3D conversion ever. I won’t see it of course, as I can’t see 3D.

In this interview with Neil deGrasse Tyson and Steven Colbert (out of character) Mr. Tyson describes the night sky in the final scene of Titanic. He points out that it is wrong to Mr. Cameron himself. For a later edition of “Titanic” Mr. Tyson was consulted to provide an accurate sky.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/YXh9RQCvxmg/hqdefault.jpg "Stephen Colbert Interviews Neil deGrasse Tyson at Montclair Kimberley Academy - 2010-Jan-29") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXh9RQCvxmg)

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