# Titanic tourist submarine missing 6-19-2023 (Debris field found, passengers presumed dead. 06-22-23) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** breaking-news\ **Created:** [June 19, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781 "2023-06-19T16:29:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/1 "2023-06-19T16:29:39Z")
Maybe we should have this thread titled as: “Titanic, Just don’t do it”? > **[Titanic tourist submersible goes missing with search under way](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65953872)** > > Rescuers are searching for a submersible used to take tourists and experts to view the famous wreck. > **[Underwater sounds heard in search for sub - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-65953941)** > > The US Coast Guard confirms noises have been detected, after media reports of "banging sounds" from the area. I hope they do make it, the sub should have enough oxygen and supplies for 3 days AFAIK. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/2 "2023-06-19T16:41:27Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Maybe we should have this thread titled as: “Titanic, Just don’t do it”? Indeed. I was just reading this article. What a stupid idea this whole operation is. I hope they all survive and I hope that this scares everyone off of doing this. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/3 "2023-06-19T16:48:19Z")
Hoping everyone turns up safe. If not, maybe another company can commission submersible trips to look at the wreck of the OceanGate submersible, though it’s doubtful tourists will pay $100,000-$250,000 for the experience. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/4 "2023-06-19T17:18:02Z")
You would have to pay me a substantial multiple of that ticket price, in advance, to get me to even think about climbing into that thing. (Which does not conflict with my sincere hope that the vehicle is found and the people rescued unharmed.) ---
**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/5 "2023-06-19T17:22:48Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I hope they do make it, the sub should have enough oxygen and supplies for 3 days AFAIK. Even if the sub is intact but disabled on the ocean floor and everyone is alive inside, how could you get it back up? As far as I know, subs that can reach that depth are very specialized and there aren’t very many of them. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/6 "2023-06-19T17:23:56Z")
I think they went overboard with the whole “So close to real you almost can’t tell” routine. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/7 "2023-06-19T17:56:48Z")
One possibility, as an expert said in the live update, is that the sub lost power and ballast was released to have the sub go to the surface, that could take a while and the sub could be on the surface. With no communications, but with the crew alive and waiting for rescue. On the other hand… I read that this sub was considered experimental. Can anyone confirm that? If that was the case, there is a lot of blame and curses to direct to the organizers. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/8 "2023-06-19T17:59:13Z")
Surely they’d have one of those locator beacons onboard? ---
**Author:** ![tullsterx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tullsterx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tullsterx)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/9 "2023-06-19T18:10:27Z")
This sounds like a big story. What a nightmare. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/10 "2023-06-19T18:11:32Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > What a stupid idea this whole operation is. Right up there with tourists going to the moon. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/11 "2023-06-19T18:15:59Z")
This is an example of the expression ‘Worse things happen at sea.’ ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/12 "2023-06-19T18:16:58Z")
Uh-oh. Oh no… ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/13 "2023-06-19T18:17:33Z")
Seems like a small story but a nightmare for those onboard and their families. This is a silly little tourist sub. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/14 "2023-06-19T18:17:34Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > > [@What\_Exit](#): > > > > What a stupid idea this whole operation is. > > Right up there with tourists going to the moon. Or summiting Everest. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/15 "2023-06-19T18:27:32Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > a nightmare for those onboard I suppose it would depend on what exactly happened. Might not have been time to have much cause for concern or worry, let alone nightmare. Or, hey, maybe they’re still alive down there, in abject terror of what’s to come. TBD. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/16 "2023-06-19T18:29:02Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > Or summiting Everest. In that case, there are at least Sherpas to carry you back down. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/17 "2023-06-19T18:32:00Z")
Are their standards for submersible hatches to fit rescue craft? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/18 "2023-06-19T18:33:21Z")
My knowledge is probably out of date, but no, there wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/19 "2023-06-19T18:39:14Z")
There was a segment about the sub on the “CBS Sunday Morning” show last year: > **[Titanic: Visiting the most famous shipwreck in the world](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/titanic-visiting-the-most-famous-shipwreck-in-the-world/)** > > David Pogue joins Titanic enthusiasts who will happily pay a small fortune to ride in OceanGate's specially-designed submersible vehicle to visit the remains of the luxury liner 13,000 feet beneath the North Atlantic (weather conditions permitting). The reporter got to see the Titanic, but it was on the 3rd try. The first was aborted because some floats came detached from the launch platform. The second trip made it to the bottom, but there was a communication problem and the sub was in the wrong location. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/20 "2023-06-19T19:03:19Z")
Hamish Harding, billionaire entrepreneur and explorer, is confirmed to have been on board. There are two other names out there that seem likely, but as of yet unconfirmed… All of them have some technical exploration experience it seems, but that’s pretty meaningless when you jump into a submersible, unless you’re in control of it. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781.md?page=2)