# Titanic tourist submarine missing 6-19-2023 (Debris field found, passengers presumed dead. 06-22-23)

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**Created:** [June 19, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781 "2023-06-19T16:29:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/181 "2023-06-21T03:39:08Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> The Titan lost contact with its mothership at 9.45am on Sunday morning

Depending on how long they’d already been underwater at that point, that means that, assuming a hull breach didn’t kill them instantly, that they’ve used up at least 63 hours of oxygen.

This is going to become a salvage operation very soon.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/182 "2023-06-21T03:49:11Z")

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> [@Common\_Tater](#):
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> A Canadian Aircraft, part of the enormous search mission looking for the missing Titanic tourists, heard ‘banging’ at 30-minute intervals in the area the submarine disappeared.

Sooooo… a Navy sonabuoy picked up this sound? If that’s the case they should be able to locate it quickly.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/183 "2023-06-21T03:50:08Z")

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Wouldn’t pounding on a composite hull make more of a ‘thumping’ sound?

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**Author:** ![Common\_Tater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/common_tater/32/13846_2.png) [@Common\_Tater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Common_Tater)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/184 "2023-06-21T03:53:23Z")

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It was constructed with a carbon fiber tube, with titanium end caps.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/185 "2023-06-21T03:53:26Z")

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FWIW (my emphasis):

[https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1671331003300732930?cxt=HHwWhICznais4bEuAAAA](https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1671331003300732930?cxt=HHwWhICznais4bEuAAAA)

> **BNO News**  
> @BNONews
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> “Banging sounds” were detected **on Monday** close to where the Titanic sub went missing and it continued for several hours at 30-minute intervals - Rolling Stone

[https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1671358585253625859?cxt=HHwWhoC85eXx7bEuAAAA](https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1671358585253625859?cxt=HHwWhoC85eXx7bEuAAAA)

> Sounds were heard **today** in the area where the Titanic sub went missing, in addition to “banging sounds” reported earlier - CNN

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/186 "2023-06-21T03:55:53Z")

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Any chance that “they” have known the sub’s position very nearly since jump – it’s just that it’s been that hard to get a capable rescue vessel and/or technique assembled?

As in: If this same exact thing had happened in 2,000 ft depths, the sub would already have been recovered.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/187 "2023-06-21T04:05:04Z")

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Are we eventually going to find out that the CEO has been hiding in the attic this whole time?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/188 "2023-06-21T04:25:22Z")

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Years from now people will visit the wrecks of _Titanic_ and _Titan_ in the submersible _Tit_.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/189 "2023-06-21T04:30:57Z")

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Banging noises? That usually means ghosts, right?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/190 "2023-06-21T04:32:05Z")

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What is the MUV industry mentioned in the letter? Marine Utility Vehicle?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/191 "2023-06-21T04:33:37Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> What is the MUV industry mentioned in the letter?

Manned Underwater Vehicles.

[https://www.oceannews.com/featured-stories/manned-underwater-vehicles-pushing-the-next-frontier](https://www.oceannews.com/featured-stories/manned-underwater-vehicles-pushing-the-next-frontier)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/192 "2023-06-21T04:39:02Z")

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Is the banging coming through as  
-.-. --.- -..  
-.-. --.- -..  
-.-. --.- -..  
?

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/193 "2023-06-21T05:10:56Z")

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The US Coast Guard confirms the banging. 30 min intervals wouldn’t be natural sounds. The odds of a rescue are still unlikely.

> **[Titanic submarine live updates: 'Underwater sounds' heard in search for...](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-65953941)**
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> The US Coast Guard confirms noises have been detected, after media reports of "banging sounds" from the area.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/194 "2023-06-21T05:52:53Z")

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With posts like that, please post more often! Very well played.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/195 "2023-06-21T06:41:52Z")

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How would the submersible resurface under normal circumstances?

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/196 "2023-06-21T08:21:09Z")

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No, it is too dark down there, they are using braille.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/197 "2023-06-21T08:42:56Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> How would the submersible resurface under normal circumstances?

Belly up?

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/198 "2023-06-21T08:47:49Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> It could be the basis of a ruinous lawsuit against whatever is left of OceanGate by the surviving relatives.

Unlikely, since you can be sure they all signed an “at your own risk” paper before they set off.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/199 "2023-06-21T08:48:44Z")

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Amazing (if true) that, through at least 3 or 4 kilometers of water, a device can detect someone banging on the inside of a submersible.

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titanic-tourist-submarine-missing-6-19-2023-debris-field-found-passengers-presumed-dead-06-22-23/985781/200 "2023-06-21T08:52:35Z")

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The BBC reports that _“The US Coast Guard has confirmed that a Canadian P-3 aircraft detected “underwater noises” in a search area for the missing Titanic sub”_

Apparently a “banging” sound.

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