# Titles contradicted by premise

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 18, 2008, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254 "2008-11-18T05:16:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/41 "2008-11-19T15:00:23Z")

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**The Flavor of Love** has nothing to do with love  
**Charm School** is charmless.  
\*\*MTV \*\*rarely features music.  
**Fox News** - should be Fox Editorial Station IMO  
**Gunsmoke** I heard the sounds but didn’t see the smoke  
**Red Dragon** this is not a fantasy film with elves and such

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/42 "2008-11-19T15:56:00Z")

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> [@jali](#):
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> **Red Dragon** this is not a fantasy film with elves and such

To that I must take exception:

But there is a character in it who calls himself the Dragon, and Blake’s painting [The Great Red Dragon & the Sun](http://www.zeek.net/i/dragon.jpg)is important to the plot–and, not to mention, lunch for the character inq question.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/43 "2008-11-19T15:59:25Z")

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> [@Sr\_Siete](#):
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> **Knight Rider:** No knighthood ever given to the main chatracter, and he’s a “driver”.

I’d give that one a pass, at least in the original series the main character’s name was Michael Knight, and he rides around (in a talking car no less), so “Knight Rider.”

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/44 "2008-11-19T16:11:17Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Law & Order has little to do with law and nothing to do with order.

Wha? 😕  
The first half of the show focuses on cops trying to solve some type of crime and arresting people (ie keeping order) and the second half focuses on the trial. The title couldn’t really be any more blatantly about the subject than it already is unless you called it _Cops & Lawyers_.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/45 "2008-11-19T16:20:22Z")

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> [@singular1](#):
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> I’d have to say there’s a pretty damn loose interpretation of the word “celebrity” in “Celebrity Rehab”.

I imagine the success rate leaves “Rehab” just as inaccurate.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/46 "2008-11-19T16:24:13Z")

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Any homeopathic “medicine”. at the bottom, you will read “notb intended to diagnose or treat any disease”-so what is the stuff for/

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/47 "2008-11-19T16:29:11Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> Any homeopathic “medicine”. at the bottom, you will read “notb intended to diagnose or treat any disease”-so what is the stuff for/

To fatten the manufacturer’s bank account at the expense of the consumer’s well-being, silly.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/48 "2008-11-19T16:30:47Z")

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Final Destination II.

No comment.

ETA: also, Final Fantasy parts 2 through 37 or whatever.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/49 "2008-11-19T17:05:54Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> “Snakes on a Plane” should be “Snakes and People on a Plane”–if it was just snakes, they’d never get it off the ground because they have no hands to move all the levers and stuff.

Wasn’t there a Far Side cartoon on that? “How the hey do we drive these things when we have no arms or legs?” Something like that…

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/50 "2008-11-19T17:18:36Z")

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> [@jali](#):
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> **Fox News** - should be Fox Editorial Station IMO

Not to mention, the news reported hardly ever relates to foxes.

(as opposed to [Parrot News](http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode20.htm#8))

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**Author:** ![panamajack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/47e85d/32.png) [@panamajack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panamajack)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/51 "2008-11-19T17:26:32Z")

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Most books/movies etc. with ‘forgotten’ in the title obviously aren’t.

The movie _Twice-Told Tales_ should really have been “Thrice-told” (or “Two Tales Thrice-Told, a Third Tale Twice-Told” since _The House of the Seven Gables_ was only ‘told’ once).

Parker Lewis, however rarely, did lose, and had to at least temporarily lose for the show to be interesting. You could argue that the premise was that he must eventually prevail, though that didn’t always happen. One episode was even titled “Parker Lewis Must Lose”.  
Nash was neither a dentist nor civil engineer. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/52 "2008-11-19T18:14:39Z")

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**America’s Funniest Home Video’s** - are not

**Modern Marvels** - Really? Paper clips are modern marvels?

**Jackass** - There are no donkey’s…we’ll maybe just that one episode.

**Monk** - is not about religion.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/53 "2008-11-19T18:34:46Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> The title is probably the cleverest thing about the whole show. At first glance, Jake is the half-man because he’s still a boy. Then it becomes apparent that Alan is the half-man because of just how thoroughly his ex-wife emasculated him. Then we see how Charlie is the half-man because he’s incapable of an adult level of emotion or responsibility. Mind you, a less contradictory title would be Three Half-Men.

Or you could just add them all up and get _Man and a Half_.

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**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/54 "2008-11-19T18:36:08Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> “Snakes on a Plane” should be “Snakes and People on a Plane”

Which reminds me that, as a kid, I thought **Monty Python’s Flying Circus** was kind of a rip-off.

**Fawlty Towers** didn’t.  
The title character in **Get Smart** didn’t.  
No one’s in any real danger on **Jeopardy!**

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**Author:** ![De\_La\_Rue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@De\_La\_Rue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/De_La_Rue)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/55 "2008-11-19T19:02:15Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Or you could just add them all up and get _Man and a Half_.

I thought that was [something else](http://www.doomworld.com/10years/doomcomic/comic.php?page=1)?  
On topic: this board is not about heterosexual marijuana, although it is conceivable that one could post about it.

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**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/titles-contradicted-by-premise/473254/56 "2008-11-19T19:17:13Z")

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> [@jali](#):
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> **The Flavor of Love** has nothing to do with love  
> **Charm School** is charmless.  
> \*\*MTV \*\*rarely features music.  
> **Fox News** - should be Fox Editorial Station IMO  
> **Gunsmoke** I heard the sounds but didn’t see the smoke  
> **Red Dragon** this is not a fantasy film with elves and such

Well, it is about Flavor Flav trying to find some biological form of “love”, and it is trying to teach a bunch of revolting skanks some semblance of “charm”, so those two are actually reasonable, and what do you think that filmy stuff that comes out of a barrel of a gun (even in low-budget cheap 50s western) should be called?

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