# TLC cancels Honey Boo Boo after Mama June renews relationship with child molester BF.

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**Created:** [October 25, 2014, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421 "2014-10-25T03:43:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/21 "2014-10-25T18:33:06Z")

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[TLC Producer Wants List Of 100 Fucked-Up Families On Desk By End Of Day](http://www.theonion.com/articles/tlc-producer-wants-list-of-100-fuckedup-families-o,37282/)is the article mentioned above. Well worth a read.

> [@monstro](#):
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> Is it bad that I think Honey Boo Boo is hilarious?

Is the show scripted for her? I have never seen it, though I have seen clips on the Soup. I know it is reality to some extent, but is the kids’ stuff somewhat scripted?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/22 "2014-10-25T18:44:17Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Why is shit like this ever put on the air in the first place? I came to realize long ago that most foreigners are perfectly justified in their disdain for America after seeing such crap.

It’s nothing new. Paddy Chayefsky predicted this [almost forty years ago](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Nca5nns6I).

“I’m as stupid as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!”

Stranger

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/23 "2014-10-25T18:47:05Z")

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A little too much reality in this “reality” show for TLC, I guess. What a mess.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/24 "2014-10-25T18:50:57Z")

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There’s a Honey Blow Blow joke in here somewhere but my parole conditions pervernt me from saying anymore.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/25 "2014-10-25T18:54:04Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> How did he molest her 8 year old daughter 10 years ago?

> [@Alessan](#):
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> He molester her 18-year-old daughter.
> 
> Of course she has more than one child. She’s had sex more than once, right?

Actually, to be accurate, Anna is 20 now, which means the molestation occurred 12 years ago. I assume it took two years to go to trial and get the guy convicted when he was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/26 "2014-10-25T20:22:12Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> I’ve watching the first few episodes of the show just so I can understand the hoopla better. I don’t like being in the dark about popular culture.
> 
> Is it bad that I think Honey Boo Boo is hilarious?

I watched it when it was on. I thought the family was endearing at times but of course gross at the same time. I liked it.

Doesn’t feel like Alana’s lines are scripted. If a kid spends all of her time watching TV and hanging out around adults, and not being censored, the kid will say “the darnedest things.” Over and over again.

I never thought the family was headed for any sort of scandal or trainwreck. They were good to root for because, at least from what I read, Mama June was being diligent about the money the family got from the show and putting it away for the future. Not sure if some of the perks they randomly brought into the show (like the pool, or the wedding) were bought with the family’s money or if the show sponsored it directly.

She talked a good talk about her kids and the family, so this scandal, to me, is quite a surprise. She actually seems like the sort of person who would be quick to rid herself of anyone that pissed her off in the slightest (see: 4 kids with 4 men) so to even have contact with this creep - let alone carry on a relationship with him - seems uncharacteristic to me.

I say good on TLC for dropping it, though. They were a fun family to watch but losing Sugar Bear from the equation really hurts it, and now having a “she might just be a horrible person” vibe added on top of it, it would not be fun to watch anymore.

I hope things work out for Anna, and if she does split from her family she at least has some money for TLC (hoping she got it directly if she was 18…?)

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/27 "2014-10-25T20:30:51Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Isn’t that the entire point? “Look at these crazy hicks? Isn’t that hilarious? _Aww, they think they’re people!_”

That was kinda wrong, but damn it made me laugh.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/28 "2014-10-25T20:42:44Z")

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Wow. Who would have thought someone who put her toddler in beauty pageants on Red Bull would show poor judgment? I am shocked, shocked, I tell you.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/29 "2014-10-25T20:55:20Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I have been called a classist and a “fatty hater” (even though I’m chunky myself) and other things for my disgust at Mama June. I could never care less If she weighed 80 lbs. or 800 and I certainly don’t think being poor makes someone a bad person anymore than it ennobled them, but the fact she had 4 children by 4 different men in a short period of time, which by definition meant she was traipsing strange men constantly into her oldest daughter’s lives before Alana’s father, and then was spending the families very small disposable income on fecking pageants instead of college funds or on something to help her own fat ass make a living and not have to have her kids on the public dime and perhaps inspire them to break the cycle was ‘Nuff said’.

Trash is trash.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/30 "2014-10-25T21:00:17Z")

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The Onion has a better track record than Nostradamus.

> **[You Do, Of Course, Realize That This Is Going To End Very, Very Badly](https://www.theonion.com/you-do-of-course-realize-that-this-is-going-to-end-ve-1819584782)**
>
> Like millions of viewers around the nation, I was thrilled this week when TLC renewed my television show, Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, for a second fun-filled season. It fills my heart with joy to know that our raucous Southern lifestyle in rural...

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/31 "2014-10-25T22:00:31Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> The Onion has a better track record than Nostradamus.
> 
> [http://www.theonion.com/articles/you-do-of-course-realize-that-this-is-going-to-end,29734/](http://www.theonion.com/articles/you-do-of-course-realize-that-this-is-going-to-end,29734/)

Oh, I dunno:

> [@](#):
>
> A thing existing without any senses  
> will cause its own end to happen through antics.  
> For many small and great,  
> there will be great damage from storm.

Gotta love those vague references and sneaky translations.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/32 "2014-10-26T00:16:14Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> I thought you were going to start “doing it backwards” and begin with the quote you are responding to, rather than begin with your response? Tsk, tsk. 😉

😕

Huh? Top-posting (where you put your response ABOVE, rather than BELOW the material you’re responding to) IS the backwards way. Did he maybe say he was going to STOP doing it backwards?

But that’s off-topic, and I don’t wish to encourage a hijack.

In the discussion at hand, what’s the erstwhile program’s namesake’s reaction to these developments (not about Mom having the creepy uncle over again, the fact that she’s no longer a celebrity).

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/33 "2014-10-26T02:38:16Z")

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Anna Marie Cardwell (Chickadee) gave People an interview. She’s still having trouble accepting that her mom did this. She explains what happened 10 years ago. Apparently June  
supported her bf even back then.

No question that she’s back with Mark McDaniel. She was photographed [house hunting with the guy](http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/25/mama-june-house-hunting-boyfriend-child-molester-photos/). [Bought him a car too](http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/24/mama-june-dating-child-molester-tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-car-shopping/). I guess he’s helping her spend the Reality Show earnings. I suspect that he’ll take her for everything she has pretty quick. imho

> **[Anna Marie Cardwell: 'I Would Feel Hurt' If Mama June Is Dating My Molester](https://people.com/celebrity/anna-marie-cardwell-i-would-feel-hurt-if-mama-june-is-dating-my-molester/)**
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> Anna Marie Cardwell tells PEOPLE she's "confused" about reports her mother is dating the man she says molested her when she was 8 years old

> [@](#):
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> Cardwell also says that after McDaniel was arrested, Shannon was skeptical of her story about being molested.
> 
> "A week or so after it happened, I talked to Mama and she was upset, crying and saying, ‘I don’t believe you, I don’t believe you, why would you do this to me?’ " Cardwell says. “And I was like, 'Mama, he did that to me and I can’t do anything about it. You were never there to see it you were always at work.”
> 
> Cardwell moved in with her grandmother after the molestation, a source told PEOPLE, and only moved back in with Shannon in 2012 shortly before Here Comes Honey Boo Boo’s premiere. “Me and Mama realized we needed to put this behind us and get our relationship back on track and that’s what we did and that’s what we have been doing,” Cardwell says.
> 
> If it’s true that Shannon and McDaniel are together again, Cardwell, who is a mom to 2-year-old daughter Kaitlyn, says, “I would feel hurt. I would not feel betrayed, but I would feel hurt. You know the past should be in the past and it should stay in the past and not come back out.”
> 
> But one thing is for sure: “I would not let her see Kaitlyn unless Mark is out of the picture or away because I don’t want him nowhere near my child,” Cardwell says. “Nowhere close to her.”

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/34 "2014-10-26T02:45:25Z")

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I hope the Production company put Alana’s money in a trust. Isn’t that required in most states for child actors?

It’s called the Jackie Coogan law in California. His family squandered all his earnings when he was a kid. Steps were taken to protect future child actors that work in California.

> **[California Child Actor's Bill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Child_Actor%27s_Bill)**
>
> The California Child Actor's Bill (also known as Coogan Act or Coogan Bill) is a law applicable to child performers, designed to safeguard a portion of their earnings for when they reach the age of majority, and protect them from exploitation and abuse.
> The original Bill was passed in 1939 by the State of California in response to the plight of Jackie Coogan, who earned millions of dollars as a successful child actor only to discover, upon reaching adulthood, that his mother and stepfather had s...

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/35 "2014-10-26T03:05:54Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> 😕
> 
> Huh? Top-posting (where you put your response ABOVE, rather than BELOW the material you’re responding to) IS the backwards way. Did he maybe say he was going to STOP doing it backwards?

From the thread where he was asked to fix his posting style. (Italics mine). Hopefully that clarifies.

> [@Michael Brown evidence slowly being released. Case is falling apart.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-brown-evidence-slowly-being-released-case-is-falling-apart/702167/36):
>
> Have you seriously not picked up on the fact that you’re the only person on this mb who does this?

> [@Michael Brown evidence slowly being released. Case is falling apart.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-brown-evidence-slowly-being-released-case-is-falling-apart/702167/38):
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> Fraid not. Every board I’ve ever used wanted any quoted material at the bottom. The idea being the post is what matters and the quote is a reference.
> 
> \*I’ll do it backwards if that is preferred here. \*Quotes on top.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/36 "2014-10-26T03:06:47Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> 😕
> 
> Huh? Top-posting (where you put your response ABOVE, rather than BELOW the material you’re responding to) IS the backwards way. Did he maybe say he was going to STOP doing it backwards?

Well, since you asked, the quote is referring to [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17837774&postcount=38). Carry on.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/37 "2014-10-26T03:27:14Z")

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The Washington Post’s TV critic genuinely [liked](http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/tv/the-newsroom-vs-honey-boo-boo-which-one-really-gives-us-more-to-think-about/2013/07/11/8d011ca6-e422-11e2-80eb-3145e2994a55_story.html) the show. Mama has gone off the rails, though, and not believing her daughter back then seems like an unforgivable revelation.

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/38 "2014-10-26T03:35:45Z")

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Thank God! Blessing in disguise!

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/39 "2014-10-26T05:36:50Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> No question that she’s back with Mark McDaniel. She was photographed [house hunting with the guy](http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/25/mama-june-house-hunting-boyfriend-child-molester-photos/). [Bought him a car too](http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/24/mama-june-dating-child-molester-tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-car-shopping/). I guess he’s helping her spend the Reality Show earnings. I suspect that he’ll take her for everything she has pretty quick. imho

[https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/mama-june-i-am-not-dating-a-child-molester-125716849.html](https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/mama-june-i-am-not-dating-a-child-molester-125716849.html)

She claims she hasn’t seen him in ten years, and his son says so too. Of course the son thinks his dad is innocent of the molestation charges too. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2014, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tlc-cancels-honey-boo-boo-after-mama-june-renews-relationship-with-child-molester-bf/702421/40 "2014-10-26T06:26:25Z")

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> [@salinqmind](#):
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> There is a hilarious Onion article just out, “TLC Producer wants list of 100 F’d Up Families on desk by end of the day”. Searching for the NEW freak show sensation.

[Godfather of PIttsburg](http://www.post-gazette.com/ae/tv-radio/2014/10/20/Godfather-of-Pittsburgh-to-air-Nov-10-on-A-E-Isoldi/stories/201410200166) is taken, so only 99 left.

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