# TMQ no longer on ESPN.com! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 21, 2003, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tmq-no-longer-on-espn-com/208735 "2003-10-21T17:01:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mr.Obvious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@Mr.Obvious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Obvious)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tmq-no-longer-on-espn-com/208735/21 "2003-10-22T20:09:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ElwoodCuse \* > **I also find it very hypocritical that he would rant and rave about violence and its alleged “harmful” effects (even though it has never been proven that there is a causal relationship between fictional and real violence), yet every week he has pictures of NFL cheerleaders in the column.** Would you please explain to me why you think this is “very hypocritical”? ---
**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tmq-no-longer-on-espn-com/208735/22 "2003-10-22T20:28:13Z")
I remember getting annoyed at one of his columns. He went on a digression about dark matter and dark energy and how scientists are finding new elementary particles that they didn’t know existed and yadda yadda yadda. The digression ended with > [@](#): > > Bear this in mind when you’re tempted to think _Homo sapiens_ already understands the physical world, or even has the slightest idea what’s going on. Combining missing dark matter and missing dark energy, science can’t locate 90 percent of the universe! Bear this in mind, as well, when you’re tempted to think we “know” there is no nonmaterial realm. An energy _strong enough to push the entire universe_ is pulsing through your body right now, yet science has no idea how it works or where it originates. How many other nonmaterial forces might there be? Yes, this clearly proves that science doesn’t have the answers and that there is a nonmaterial realm and that God exists and so on. Look, I read your column for football, not for cheerleader cheesecake (I can get that on team webpages) and definitely not for snide implications about religion. I won’t miss TMQ. ---
**Author:** ![Threadkiller](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aca169/32.png) [@Threadkiller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Threadkiller)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2003, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tmq-no-longer-on-espn-com/208735/23 "2003-10-22T21:50:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ElwoodCuse \* > \*\ ***Threadkiller** : this is the link I emailed them. > > [http://www.nfl.com/fans/story/5764456](http://www.nfl.com/fans/story/5764456) > > “If a runner is contacted by a defensive player and his knee hits the ground, the correct progress spot is the position of the ball at the time the knee touches the ground.” \*\* I meant a link to the TMQ column—which have been purged from the [ESPN.com](http://ESPN.com) site (hence the D)). If you _do_ find it there are several people out there who would love know the address. ---
**Author:** ![whatami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85f322/32.png) [@whatami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whatami)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tmq-no-longer-on-espn-com/208735/24 "2003-10-23T01:23:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ElwoodCuse \* > \*\ ***Threadkiller** : this is the link I emailed them. > > [http://www.nfl.com/fans/story/5764456](http://www.nfl.com/fans/story/5764456) > > “If a runner is contacted by a defensive player and his knee hits the ground, the correct progress spot is the position of the ball at the time the knee touches the ground.” \*\* I wish the archive was still there so I could check, but I thought he said something about the rule being different with regards to the endzone (for safties?). Mind you, I can’t remember the official rule and for the life of me, all I can find is a rules digest that doesn’t have crap on stuff like that. ---
**Author:** ![randomlyblanks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@randomlyblanks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randomlyblanks)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tmq-no-longer-on-espn-com/208735/25 "2003-10-23T02:41:43Z")
**ElwoodCuse** - you’re wrong. Easterbrook ranted about the knee going down with the ball still out of the end zone, then the player lunging the ball across the plane and having it called a touchdown. Similarly Maddox’s knee went down in the end zone and he lunged the ball out after that; the play was a safety (Easterbrook lauded the correct call). He was right to ignore you, because he was right in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![whatami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85f322/32.png) [@whatami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whatami)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tmq-no-longer-on-espn-com/208735/26 "2003-10-23T03:41:09Z")
Ahh… That does sound correct. Regardless, does anyone know of anywhere online that has the rules, or are they only available if you buy the book? ---
**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2003, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tmq-no-longer-on-espn-com/208735/27 "2003-10-23T06:06:20Z")
I’m with Elwood on this one. He occasionally put interesting stats in his columns, but he wasn’t in the least bit entertaining and was often annoying. Although his views on violence/women aren’t exactly hypocritical, they’re quite unusual and IMO dumb… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tmq-no-longer-on-espn-com/208735.md?page=1)