# TNG vs DS9: Ferengi and Trill continuity problems, Data, and generic starships

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**Created:** [January 3, 2005, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883 "2005-01-03T19:56:34Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883/61 "2016-05-07T00:31:58Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> No environmental suits and no invisible personal forcefields.

Not to be pedantic, but … if the forcefields were invisible, how would we know there weren’t any? 😕

On the other topic … yeah, Feds do seem to be pretty naive when it comes to things like contagious diseases and highly prolific wildlife.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883/62 "2016-05-07T00:46:48Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Not to be pedantic, but … if the forcefields were invisible, how would we know there weren’t any? 😕

They actually did appear in, of all things, the animated series. But the main television shows never put them in and treat them as a non-topic. The few times anything like that show up, they were jury-rigged and very brief.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883/63 "2016-05-07T01:39:28Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Not to be pedantic, but … if the forcefields were invisible, how would we know there weren’t any? 😕
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> On the other topic … yeah, Feds do seem to be pretty naive when it comes to things like contagious diseases and highly prolific wildlife.

Doesn’t the use of transporter basically prevent the infestation of wildlife? You’re only beaming up the molecules of that person.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883/64 "2016-05-07T02:42:38Z")

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> [@moojja](#):
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> Doesn’t the use of transporter basically prevent the infestation of wildlife? You’re only beaming up the molecules of that person.

Apparently not with tribbles… :eek:

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883/65 "2016-05-07T02:48:02Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Apparently not with tribbles… :eek:

That’s the trouble with them. :dubious:

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883/66 "2016-05-07T02:49:26Z")

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> [@moojja](#):
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> Doesn’t the use of transporter basically prevent the infestation of wildlife? You’re only beaming up the molecules of that person.

If you’re referring to diseases transmitted by wildlife, there was a “decontamination” protocol in place for use after beaming up, but it was implemented only once that I recall (“The Naked Time”). In TNG, of course, the transporter had biological “filters,” which apparently didn’t work too well either (at least for Dr Pulaski).

Above, I was referring to animals with tremendous multiplicative proclivities. 🙂

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883/67 "2016-05-07T04:17:50Z")

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In that TNG crossover Tribbles episode, when someone commented that the Klingons from Picard’s time didn’t look like the Klingons of Kirk’s time, Worf said Klingons didn’t talk about it and gave quite the glare at the commentor. So, I guess it was a Noodle Incident.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883/68 "2016-05-07T04:25:41Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> In that TNG crossover Tribbles episode, when someone commented that the Klingons from Picard’s time didn’t look like the Klingons of Kirk’s time, Worf said Klingons didn’t talk about it and gave quite the glare at the commentor. So, I guess it was a Noodle Incident.

They later explained it in the prequel series. It was… meh.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883/69 "2016-05-07T16:06:39Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> But you know, the oh, other network show which, very strangely, Deep Space 9 seems to share a lot of names and other similarities with… Also buried an attractive woman under a lot of makeup and prosthetics and then softened her up as the show went on. 😉

Yeah, but they addressed that in-show by turning Delenn into a Mimbari/Human hybrid. A better example would be a certain non-human warrior in the show’s predecessor.

What’s weirder is the opposite, when someone on a prequel show finally gave a shit and fixed a certain female alien’s eyebrows.

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tng-vs-ds9-ferengi-and-trill-continuity-problems-data-and-generic-starships/282883/70 "2016-05-07T16:14:51Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> In that TNG crossover Tribbles episode, when someone commented that the Klingons from Picard’s time didn’t look like the Klingons of Kirk’s time, Worf said Klingons didn’t talk about it and gave quite the glare at the commentor. So, I guess it was a Noodle Incident.

That was DS9, _Trials and Tribble-ations_. They do eventually give a hare-brained explanation in Enterprise: the Klingons were experimenting with Khan’s human augment technology and yadda yadda yadda bumpy foreheads.

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