# To all Obama apologists on the economy. You need to go fuck yourself today. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390 "2012-04-10T18:01:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/21 "2012-04-10T19:10:03Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > They would have been a whole lot better for public sector employment, that’s for sure. Burn, village, and all that. If you’re implying the US could make bank burning more villages I would remind you of the failure of that policy for 9+ years now. We actually spend more to burn villages than we ever reap from the profits of doing so. ETA: The Archies so have it coming to them. No jury in the land… ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/22 "2012-04-10T19:11:03Z")
> [@stpauler](#): > > [According to this, the unemployment rate is getting better.](http://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=z1ebjpgk2654c1_&met_y=unemployment_rate&tdim=true&fdim_y=country:US&fdim_y=seasonality:S&dl=en&hl=en&q=unemployment+rate#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=unemployment_rate&fdim_y=country:US&fdim_y=seasonality:S&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=country&idim=country:US&ifdim=country&tdim=true&tstart=1289368800000&tend=1328853600000&hl=en_US&dl=en) YMMV. > > No presidents or ownerships of presidents mentioned in this post, so the moratorium doesn’t apply to me. A smaller percentage of the workforce is classified as unemployed because the workforce is _shrinking_. If you include discouraged workers and those marginally attached to the labor force, the unemployment rate is still close to 10%. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/23 "2012-04-10T19:13:00Z")
I feel sorry for your situation and all, but anecdotes are just that. I just started a new job last week. ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/24 "2012-04-10T19:14:12Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > A smaller percentage of the workforce is classified as unemployed because the workforce is _shrinking_. If you include discouraged workers and those marginally attached to the labor force, the unemployment rate is still close to 10%. I would love to see a comparative graph with those figures included over the last 3 years since you’ve mentioned it. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/25 "2012-04-10T19:16:02Z")
Losing your job absolutely sucks. Not realizing that the more localized the government base, the more it affects your life, sucks even more. If you’re looking to lay blame, here’s a handy primer: Your local school board \> your state’s education department \>\>\>\>\>\>\> Obama ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/26 "2012-04-10T19:25:38Z")
(huff huff HUFF HUFF HUUUUFFHH contented sigh) That felt great! Thanks for giving me the green light. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/27 "2012-04-10T19:28:14Z")
[Here’s a pretty good explanation](http://seekingalpha.com/article/483981-u-s-employment-in-plain-english), with graphs; note especially [this one](http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2012/4/8/1103530-13339088408507755-Macro-and-Cheese.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/28 "2012-04-10T19:33:06Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > (huff huff HUFF HUFF HUUUUFFHH contented sigh) > > That felt great! Thanks for giving me the green light. That part’s OK, the tough part is talking to yourself and pretending to listen. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/29 "2012-04-10T19:34:15Z")
_Hail to the Chief we have chosen for the nation, Hail to the Chief! We salute him, one and all. Hail to the Chief, here’s your slip of separation Clean out your desk, there’s some boxes in the hall!_ ---
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/30 "2012-04-10T19:38:28Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > [Here’s a pretty good explanation](http://seekingalpha.com/article/483981-u-s-employment-in-plain-english), with graphs; note especially [this one](http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2012/4/8/1103530-13339088408507755-Macro-and-Cheese.jpg). I’ll be honest, I don’t know enough about it to argue, but it seems that the peak between 97 and 02 would be when the baby boomers starting hitting 55 (early retirement) or am I just extrapolating two random points? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/31 "2012-04-10T19:47:48Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Now going into a third straight year of budget and staff cuts, the district staff at my school district have just been told about massive staff cuts (me included). Why don’t you pull some more numbers out of Obama’s ass (they’re in there next to your head) and explain again about how the economy is recovering and has been for some time. Explain how real unemployment has gone down. > > Look, the economy is in the shitter and everyone except you and your President know it. So out of respect for me being laid off for the second summer in a row (ya know, last hired = first fired), I order a 24 hour morotorium on any statement implying the economy has been getting better under your President. A. No individual’s personal experience is a reliable indicator of the state of the economy. B. As a conservative, you should not be complaining about what other people did to put you in your current job situation, you should be affirming that this is a mere temporary setback, a learning opportunity, and that with hard work and pluck, you will be on your feet in a couple of weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/32 "2012-04-10T19:56:08Z")
I too am sorry you are losing your job, and that education has been taking such a hit. I assume you will be eschewing any government handouts as we continue to shrink the public sector? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/33 "2012-04-10T20:00:21Z")
It’s sad that **Saint Cad** lost his job. It’s a bloody miracle that his school board actually made cuts where they should be made, ie at the District level rather than the site level. The teachers and aides are usually the ones who get it in the neck, not bureaucrats in Admin. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/34 "2012-04-10T20:13:43Z")
> [@Philliam](#): > > I realize it’s a personal bummer for you and your family. Are you just now getting the message that you happen to be in that segment of the ‘Gummint’ that Grover Norquist and his ilk want to “drown in the bathtub”? If you happen to be a true conservative you might applaud the efforts to get rid of these over-reaching government programs. > > Again, man, I do feel for 'ya - a lot of ‘us’ are in the same boat, but you do need to remember the old saying: > > Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. **This.** I guess it sucks to be the OP. I don’t give a shit. Sometimes a person who is so eager to put other people on a chopping block or toss them out like garbage, gets “a little taste” for himself. I just can’t bring myself to feel bad at all. So how IS that starvy beasty thing working out? > [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > I too am sorry you are losing your job, and that education has been taking such a hit. > I assume you will be eschewing any government handouts as we continue to shrink the public sector? This too. After all, only liberal scum and lazy bums take money from the nanny state. ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/35 "2012-04-10T20:20:59Z")
I’m sorry about your job loss. But anecdotal evidence doesn’t cut it. Our entire company got raises last year and my husband (who works for the local school district) is finally getting a raise for the first time in 4 years. We’re also hiring for a temp position, a full time position, and (if Mr. Worker’s Comp doesn’t ever come back), another full time position. It sucks to not have a job and be on unemployment. Blaming Obama for it is silly, since he just got into office when the whole thing tanked. He didn’t cause that. And it’s hard to try to fix anything when the opposite party is stonewalling him at every turn, just for the fuck of it. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/36 "2012-04-10T20:22:31Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I don’t give a shit. Sometimes a person who is so eager to put other people on a chopping block or toss them out like garbage, gets “a little taste” for himself. I just can’t bring myself to feel bad at all. This seems to be a fairly common sentiment in this thread. Can anyone point me to the discussions you’re thinking of? I was generally aware of the OP before this, but i don’t recall any specific run-ins with him over issues of the economy and government policy. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/37 "2012-04-10T20:23:13Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > ETA: The Archies so have it coming to them. No jury in the land… What’s the penalty for Reggiecide? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/38 "2012-04-10T20:24:57Z")
Oh my God! Reggie is Mitt Romney! ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/39 "2012-04-10T20:34:51Z")
If it makes you feel any better, I fuck myself almost every day ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/40 "2012-04-10T20:34:58Z")
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