# To all Obama apologists on the economy. You need to go fuck yourself today. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390 "2012-04-10T18:01:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/41 "2012-04-10T20:41:14Z")
The feds fund your schools? How did you manage that, and how do we get on board? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/42 "2012-04-10T20:46:08Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > This seems to be a fairly common sentiment in this thread. Can anyone point me to the discussions you’re thinking of? I was generally aware of the OP before this, but i don’t recall any specific run-ins with him over issues of the economy and government policy. It is probably the 'go fuck yourself Obama apologist" that has this thread filled with that sentiment. Especially since Obama has been against killing government jobs during the bad economy and the Republicans are all for cutting taxes and reducing nanny state programs like, oh, education. Some are actively trying to abolish the Department of Education. So yeah, there is a lot of schadenfreude in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/43 "2012-04-10T20:49:40Z")
I’m sorry you are losing your job. But let’s face it, it is a job sucking at the government teat, and if I am not mistaken, you are all in favor of reducing the number of such jobs. I’d be a little more impressed if you were a job creator rather than a burden to the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/44 "2012-04-10T20:50:02Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > It is probably the 'go fuck yourself Obama apologist" that has this thread filled with that sentiment. But the comments give the impression that **Saint Cad** has some sort of longer history on this topic. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/45 "2012-04-10T20:54:31Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > A smaller percentage of the workforce is classified as unemployed because the workforce is _shrinking_. If you include discouraged workers and those marginally attached to the labor force, the unemployment rate is still close to 10%. Actually, if you look at the U6, which includes discouraged and marginally employed, it’s 14.5%, the lowest since Obama took office, down a half point since January, and down 2.5 points from its high of 17%. That rate is usually 7-8% when things are good, and jumped from 9 to 15% during Bush’s last year. Good? No, but it’s moving in the right direction. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/46 "2012-04-10T20:54:50Z")
This last weekend I got a raise and made the last payment on my car. Thanks, Obama! ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/47 "2012-04-10T21:00:54Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > But the comments give the impression that **Saint Cad** has some sort of longer history on this topic. Why would anyone need to look into posting history when the poster has invited all Obama economy apologists to go fuck themselves in this very thread? ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/48 "2012-04-10T21:10:41Z")
Without Obama, you probably wouldn’t have had a job to lose in the first place. I’m sorry for your loss, but you’re blaming the wrong person ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/49 "2012-04-10T21:12:31Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Why would anyone need to look into posting history when the poster has invited all Obama economy apologists to go fuck themselves in this very thread? Curiosity, really. I too have seen the name enough to recognize a Doper, but don’t think I’ve read anything egregious (prior to the OP). There are a handful of RW posters here who you know are right wing, but they’d never blather on like this. Then there are some RW posters who do so much similar blathering that you can almost guess the poster by the OP. This one is in the middle. So without having to prove anything other than curiosity, has Cad spouted Norquistesque lines or libertarian-like LaRuchian rantings? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/50 "2012-04-10T21:15:16Z")
I don’t understand all the sympathy. If more conservatives lost their jobs as a direct result of government cutbacks, maybe they would reconsider their politics. It is hard for me to feel much sympathy when someone votes against their own self interest, and then blames the wrong guy for his misfortune. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/51 "2012-04-10T21:19:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > This last weekend I got a raise and made the last payment on my car. > > Thanks, Obama! I pay\* cash \*for my cars. Thanks, Bush! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/52 "2012-04-10T21:20:07Z")
Let’s get this straight right now. My rant was directed to the people who talk about how the economy has recovered under Obama. I didn’t pit Obama directly so all of you who think that this was directed to Obama can go back to school and learn to read from your now probably fired teacher. To point it out again, this was directed to people that turn some government-issued numbers into this picture of everything being great and wonderful economically and give Obama an almost Messianic reverence on how he has changed everything in the last three years. The economy still sucks despite any marginal improvement that may or may not be Obama’s doing. Oh and for all of you accusing me of being part of the government bloat, remember that your complaining about someone willing to babysit kids and try and teach them math as they tell me to fuck off. I saw a math teacher try to wake up a kid in class today during the lesson and the kid punched the teacher in the stomach for disturbing him. But I guess that the consquence of pulling down such huge paychecks. Maybe some of you need to start a thread: Reduce Big Government: Fire a Teacher. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/53 "2012-04-10T21:23:57Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Curiosity, really. I too have seen the name enough to recognize a Doper, but don’t think I’ve read anything egregious (prior to the OP). > > There are a handful of RW posters here who you know are right wing, but they’d never blather on like this. Then there are some RW posters who do so much similar blathering that you can almost guess the poster by the OP. This one is in the middle. > > So without having to prove anything other than curiosity, has Cad spouted Norquistesque lines or libertarian-like LaRuchian rantings? You know there is a search function that’ll help satisfy anyone’s curiosity on that score. I’m almost sure most people in this particular thread are responding to, well, this particular thread. In particular, getting told to go fuck themselves just because he’s getting fired and is blaming all the wrong people for it. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/54 "2012-04-10T21:30:48Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Let’s get this straight right now. My rant was directed to the people who talk about how the economy has recovered under Obama. I didn’t pit Obama directly so all of you who think that this was directed to Obama can go back to school and learn to read from your now probably fired teacher. > > To point it out again, this was directed to people that turn some government-issued numbers into this picture of everything being great and wonderful economically and give Obama an almost Messianic reverence on how he has changed everything in the last three years. The economy still sucks despite any marginal improvement that may or may not be Obama’s doing. > > Oh and for all of you accusing me of being part of the government bloat, remember that your complaining about someone willing to babysit kids and try and teach them math as they tell me to fuck off. I saw a math teacher try to wake up a kid in class today during the lesson and the kid punched the teacher in the stomach for disturbing him. But I guess that the consquence of pulling down such huge paychecks. Maybe some of you need to start a thread: Reduce Big Government: Fire a Teacher. Dude, you are mad at the wrong people. The economy is improving no matter what your personal situation is. Calling people “Obama apologists” and telling them to go fuck themselves for stating facts is a pretty fucking stupid thing for an educator to do. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/55 "2012-04-10T21:34:09Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > LeReduce Big Government: Fire a Teacher. To be fair, nobody here thinks _teachers_ need to be fired (if my speed-reading skills I was taught in 8th grade are still working). You’re getting poked at for being an administrator who [del]doesn’t[/del] didn’t serve the immediate cause of, well, teaching. Now if you wanna get busy on a flamefest about ill-behaved brats in schools who appear to fear no repurcssions at home you will probably get plenty of good loving from left- and right-wingers alike. Few people posting here are of the sort to tolerate that kind of nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/56 "2012-04-10T21:35:02Z")
Today I learned: Conservatives are so stupid, they can retard the recovery by insisting on cuts during it, and still be pissed off that the recovery is taking so long. I’d like to add, that there are certainly stupid liberals. But it isn’t a _requirement_. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/57 "2012-04-10T21:35:41Z")
> [@Saint Cad](#): > > Oh and for all of you accusing me of being part of the government bloat I submit that most of the people chiding you being part of government bloat are doing so ironically, if you really want to discuss reading comprehension. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/58 "2012-04-10T21:36:22Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Let’s get this straight right now. My rant was directed to the people who talk about how the economy has recovered under Obama. I didn’t pit Obama directly so all of you who think that this was directed to Obama can go back to school and learn to read from your now probably fired teacher. > > To point it out again, this was directed to people that turn some government-issued numbers into this picture of everything being great and wonderful economically and give Obama an almost Messianic reverence on how he has changed everything in the last three years. The economy still sucks despite any marginal improvement that may or may not be Obama’s doing. > > Oh and for all of you accusing me of being part of the government bloat, remember that your complaining about someone willing to babysit kids and try and teach them math as they tell me to fuck off. I saw a math teacher try to wake up a kid in class today during the lesson and the kid punched the teacher in the stomach for disturbing him. But I guess that the consquence of pulling down such huge paychecks. Maybe some of you need to start a thread: Reduce Big Government: Fire a Teacher. Get your government hands off my Medicare! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/59 "2012-04-10T21:42:03Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > an almost Messianic reverence Who are those people? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/60 "2012-04-10T21:45:23Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Why would anyone need to look into posting history when the poster has invited all Obama economy apologists to go fuck themselves in this very thread? Because they should. There’s huge difference between someone who thinks/thought he was the right man for the job, or is a fan, and being an apologist for him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390.md?page=4)