# To all Obama apologists on the economy. You need to go fuck yourself today. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 10, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390 "2012-04-10T18:01:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/61 "2012-04-10T21:47:28Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Dude, you are mad at the wrong people. The economy is improving no matter what your personal situation is. Calling people “Obama apologists” and telling them to go fuck themselves for stating facts is a pretty fucking stupid thing for an educator to do. Well, if you think he called you an Obama apologist its because you consider yourself an Obama apologist. He didn’t say that all Obama supporters were apologists. See, you should have stuck it out with the logic course. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/62 "2012-04-10T21:48:30Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Let’s Maybe some of you need to start a thread: Reduce Big Government: Fire a Teacher. I am in favor of Big Government. Don’t blame me if they did what you told them to in the last midterm election. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/63 "2012-04-10T21:48:58Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Who are those people? I suspect that modern conservatives generally think everyone is as stupid as they are. Since many conservatives thought [Bush was especially Godly](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ucv1-PJVT4), to them, Obama must be as holy to liberals. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/64 "2012-04-10T21:50:38Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Because they should. There’s huge difference between someone who thinks/thought he was the right man for the job, or is a fan, and being an apologist for him. What? Posters to this board should research the OP of threads they respond to to find out if he is the right man for the job/a fan or being an apologist? English, do you speak it, motherlover? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/65 "2012-04-10T21:50:50Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > See, you should have stuck it out with the logic course. Aren’t you the guy who thinks gay marriage will magically destroy society? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/66 "2012-04-10T21:52:29Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Well, if you think he called you an Obama apologist its because you consider yourself an Obama apologist. He didn’t say that all Obama supporters were apologists. See, you should have stuck it out with the logic course. Me? He called anyone who says the economy is improving an Obama economic apologist. So yeah, I guess he did tell me to go fuck myself. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/67 "2012-04-10T21:56:45Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Me? He called anyone who says the economy is improving an Obama economic apologist. So yeah, I guess he did tell me to go fuck myself. I think you misread. Here’s the salutation identifying who he is talking to: > [@](#): > > To all Obama apologists on the economy. You need to go fuck yourself today. So, unless you already consider yourself an Obama apologist, he wasn’t talking to you. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/68 "2012-04-10T22:00:24Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Aren’t you the guy who thinks gay marriage will magically destroy society? Magically? No. Destroy? A bit too strong. In the short run anyway. Sigh. But, Chucklehead, you make things sooo easy: [QUOTE=Lobohan] I’d like to add, that there are certainly stupid liberals. But it isn’t a requirement. [/QUOTE] In fact, too easy… tsk, tsk, tsk. Yawn. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/69 "2012-04-10T22:04:45Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Magically? No. Destroy? A bit too strong. In the short run anyway. You haven’t given the mechanism for it, and are simply relying on your assertion to prove it true. Sounds like magical thinking to me. > [@](#): > > Sigh. But, Chucklehead, you make things sooo easy: > > In fact, too easy… tsk, tsk, tsk. > > Yawn. I don’t think I left the opening you think I left there. Let me hear the devastating whammy you’re too good to use on me. I’ll never learn if no one hits back. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/70 "2012-04-10T22:05:41Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Who are those people? Not me. My opinion of Obama at the moment is hovering somewhere between “yeah… nah” and “wouldn’t piss on him if he were on fire,” but not for reasons related to the economy, over which he doesn’t have a hell of a lot of control. > [@magellan01](#): > > So, unless you already consider yourself an Obama apologist, he wasn’t talking to you. Funny thing about Obama apologists: like bad drivers, negligent parents, and oatmeal-brained knuckle-dragging dittohead troglodytic conservative assclowns, everyone knows they’re out there but nobody thinks they are one. Given the OP’s situation I understand if he wants to rage at an auditorium of strawmen, but if the economy is improving it isn’t necessary to be an “Obama apologist” to acknowledge it. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/71 "2012-04-10T22:06:18Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > So, unless you already consider yourself an Obama apologist, he wasn’t talking to you. He further identified Obama apologists as those who say the economy is improving. Just like all the major indicators indicate. So, not only did he call me an Obama apologist, he called actual facts Obama apologists. And we can all go fuck ourselves today. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/72 "2012-04-10T22:11:44Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > And we can all go fuck ourselves today. Well, then this Obama apologist is already ahead of the game. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/73 "2012-04-10T22:12:21Z")
I would just like to note that I am barely old enough to remember the glorious late 1950’s, when schools, police, firemen, etc. got almost anything they wanted. And when the marginal tax rate for the richest Americans was over 90%. Instead of blaming Obama for doing the best he can with an intransigent Congress, blame the people fighting for millionaires to have their taxes cut even more. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/74 "2012-04-10T22:14:07Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > You haven’t given the mechanism for it, and are simply relying on your assertion to prove it true. Sounds like magical thinking to me. I full believe that anything that requires forethought or doesn’t have as immediate a cause:effect relationship as you winding up shit on your hand when you wipe your ass without toilet paper falls under the category of “magic”. I’m not questioning that one bit. > [@Lobohan](#): > > I don’t think I left the opening you think I left there. Let me hear the devastating whammy you’re too good to use on me. I’ll never learn if no one hits back. Oh you did. But, like I said, too easy. Plus, I’ll let the bitch slap above enjoy the spotlight for now. Enjoy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/75 "2012-04-10T22:17:19Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > I full believe that anything that requires forethought or doesn’t have as immediate a cause:effect relationship as you winding up shit on your hand when you wipe your ass without toilet paper falls under the category of “magic”. I’m not questioning that one bit. That doesn’t explain the mechanism you think will cause damage to society if gay marriage is allowed. > [@](#): > > Oh you did. But, like I said, too easy. Plus, I’ll let the bitch slap above enjoy the spotlight for now. Enjoy. 😃 In other words, you are just pretending you have a zinger, because you kinda thought you saw one, but can’t figure it out now? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/76 "2012-04-10T22:17:26Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > He further identified Obama apologists as those who say the economy is improving. Just like all the major indicators indicate. So, not only did he call me an Obama apologist, he called actual facts Obama apologists. And we can all go fuck ourselves today. Check your reading. Again, his salutation was: (emphasis mine) > [@](#): > > **To all Obama apologists on the economy**. You need to go fuck yourself today. So, was it addressed to you or not? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/77 "2012-04-10T22:18:58Z")
**Biggirl** , you need to take a few moments from your OP-mandated self fucking to bite my shiny metal ass. Then, with or without the blessing of the OP, go back to knitting yourself a hat (I think saying GFY directly to a poster is against Board rules.) I assume you put “find me instances of Saint Cad being an economic douche” into a search field to avoid slogging through every post of his or reading every thread he’s been involved in. But not everyone has access to your magical search engine. We’d rather ask the many posters here who may have participated in some thread to volunteer it. Here, let me give you an example: **Random Poster:** That’s strange. Biggirl normally is pretty chill. Anyone remember a time when she made a complete ass out of herself? \*\*Rhythmdvl: \*\* Yeah, it is an anomaly, but it’s not the first time. Check out [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=647949)thread, maybe posts 47, 53 and 64. Aside from otherwise good points about the OP itself, her other responses will leave the taste of santorum in your mouth. So … anyone else (besides Biggerl, who should be crotch-deep in yarn at the moment) recall Saint Cad posting love notes to Norquist? My friend wants to know. ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/78 "2012-04-10T22:20:31Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > That doesn’t explain the mechanism you think will cause damage to society if gay marriage is allowed. Go reread all those threads if you’d like. It was explained more than once. Or not. I really don’t care either way. > [@Lobohan](#): > > In other words, you are just pretending you have a zinger, because you kinda thought you saw one, but can’t figure it out now? Ooo000oo, yeah, that’s it. You sooooo got me. We both know that not even you believe that, but what the hell. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/79 "2012-04-10T22:23:58Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > **Biggirl** , you need to take a few moments from your OP-mandated self fucking to bite my shiny metal ass. Then, with or without the blessing of the OP, go back to knitting yourself a hat (I think saying GFY directly to a poster is against Board rules.) > > I assume you put “find me instances of Saint Cad being an economic douche” into a search field to avoid slogging through every post of his or reading every thread he’s been involved in. But not everyone has access to your magical search engine. We’d rather ask the many posters here who may have participated in some thread to volunteer it. Here, let me give you an example: > > **Random Poster:** That’s strange. Biggirl normally is pretty chill. Anyone remember a time when she made a complete ass out of herself? > > \*\*Rhythmdvl: \*\* Yeah, it is an anomaly, but it’s not the first time. Check out [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=647949)thread, maybe posts 47, 53 and 64. Aside from otherwise good points about the OP itself, her other responses will leave the taste of santorum in your mouth. > > So … anyone else (besides Biggerl, who should be crotch-deep in yarn at the moment) recall Saint Cad posting love notes to Norquist? > > My friend wants to know. Are you mad because I told you to look it up yourself? Sorry I hurt your feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2012, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390/80 "2012-04-10T22:26:36Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Go reread all those threads if you’d like. It was explained more than once. Or not. I really don’t care either way. I have read them. And you never offer mechanism there either. You’re just bigoted, why not admit it? It’s not like the guys on your side would find that untoward. > [@](#): > > Ooo000oo, yeah, that’s it. You sooooo got me. > > We both know that not even you believe that, but what the hell. I’m just pointing out that you were bullshitting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-obama-apologists-on-the-economy-you-need-to-go-fuck-yourself-today/618390.md?page=5)