If he actually meant that quote, then I’m a lot less worried about him not being involved in any way in education anymore.
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Thanks. Was “Obamites” on that long thread about terms that when used seriously instantly allow writing the poster off? Pit thread, I think.
Plus … “supply-side economics that got us out of the stagflation”? I thought massive borrowing and government spending on military programmes and projects did that.
It’s not that conservativism in general requires a stream of inanities. Pro life, smaller government, pro business … these have rational, articulable arguments behind them. I don’t find the reasoning persuasive enough to agree with, but wish there were more people dropping the Fox-like rhetoric for even mild hyperbole. Shame, really.
Not sure, but railing against “Obama the Messiah” is.
And you didn’t have the kid arrested for assault because… ?
This thread and others like it, remind me why I don’t hang out here as much as I once did. It’s always the same stupid partisan bullshit, from the same stupid partisan shills. Even when they are getting their throats cut by their OWN FUCKING PARTY.
Idiots.
Thank you. My poison pen gets really good when I go off my nice guy meds.
Yeah, I gotta concur, Second Stone: you really knocked it outta the park with that post.
So true, all year I have been sitting on my couch that I bought with Bush’s stimulus handout of 2007. Finally I got off the couch (an Eilerson) when Obama found me a job. Ok so cooking and delivering pizza’s isn’t all that, but dang the tips are good! Just last night delivered an order to the subsidized housing projects and she gave me a roll of quarters as a tip, that’s ten bucks! Obama must’ve found her a job too!
If only there was a party willing to follow the simple 3-step plan to save the economy:
- Cut taxes for the most wealthy to some of the lowest levels in history, in defiance of economic sense
- Threaten a default on all our loans
- Aggressively obstruct anything Obama wants to do to help the economy
I feel certain the economy would be booming again if only such a brave party existed.
The difference between a recession and a depressions is that it is a recession when you neighbor losses his job. It’s a depression when you lose your job.
Ronald Reagan
Why don’t you wish for a pony while you’re at it?
The news is out-more people are filing for unemployemt benefits. Despite hundreds of billions spent on “stimulus” projects (including billions thrown away on “green” energy projects). Unemployment is still above 8.2%.
Of course, if you count discouraged job seekers, and people who have given up (and retired), the unemployment rate is probably over 16%.
I also notice that local lawyers are pushing SS Disability-its a way of getting SS without taxation-the rise in such claims is probably tied to the high unemployment rate.
It is all Bush’s fault!
It’s damn near impossible for the disabled to get SSDI in a timely manner, fat lot of good it will do an able-bodied person to try. Besides the fact it’s fraud.
At least you finally admit it’s Bush’s fault.
It’s interesting the particular level of stupid you’re able to bring. There is so much you don’t understand, it’s intermeshing in this clockwork of nonsense.
Okay, thought experiment. Say Person A is removing a pile of sandbags. He’s doing it very slowly, but he gets one or two put into the garbage chute. Right at the end of his shift, a sandbag truck overturns and increases the pile of sandbags to like 5 times its previous size.
Now Person B is hired to get rid of all these sandbags. He gets rid of them way faster than the first guy. In fact he spends some money on a wheelbarrow, that lets him do it faster still.
You do understand that Person B can be doing a better job than Person A even though there are more sandbags than there were before the truck overturned, right?
I mean you can’t be so stupid that you think Person B needs to have the sandbags down to where they were before the truck overturned to be said to be doing a better job, can you?
I’m not entirely sure you phrased that right.
If the government is cooking the books to show that unemployment is better than it really is, don’t you think they would come up with a better number than 8.2% ?
Forget it, Fear Itself, it’s ralphrandomnumbers.
Seriously, he’s one of those people who make me embarrassed on behalf of humanity.
Hey, Obama cooked up this whole nonsense of the “official” unemployment rate, in order to make his pathetic policies look better. It’s not like the Bureau of Labor Statistics have been measuring it for 70 years, or anything. It’s a phony baloney number, except when Reagan got it to come down, back then, it was a really good way to measure the economy. Times are different now.
Today, once you include people who are discouraged, underemployed, not happy with their job, and angry at our usurping Kenyan Muslin president, it’s like 83% unemployment. Shit, my barber told me that every single person who came into his shop this week is unemployed, even himself!
No, it wasn’t. It was directed to the people who say it is recovering under Obama:
Bolding mine in all cases.
Verb tense is important. I haven’t heard a soul claim that the economy has recovered yet. We’re not back to a normal economy; we’re a long way from it, unfortunately.
But it is demonstrably improving, just a lot more slowly than we’d like.
And we Dems would like to speed up our return to a healthy economy, but in the words of Stephen Stills, we’re getting “so much resistance from behind.”
Right now, we’re in a situation where there really is such a thing as a free lunch, but the GOP doesn’t want us to eat it.
Take infrastructure spending. Nationwide, there are trillions of dollars of infrastructure projects that will have to be done sooner or later: this money will eventually be spent if we want to continue to claim to be a first-world country.
And the cheapest time to spend it is now:
- The Federal government can borrow money now at rates we’re unlikely to see again.
- Because people are out of work, labor costs are lower than they’ve been and are likely to be.
- Since demand for everything is low, raw materials (excluding gasoline) are cheap to purchase, equipment rental is cheap, etc.
So we would save a bunch of money by doing any infrastructure maintenance and improvements now that we’d have done now or in the next several years if the economy was in good shape. AND we don’t crowd out other use of the same resources, because everything from money to workers to asphalt are lying idle.
And by putting people to work, we’d be putting money in their pockets, which they’d spend, which would increase the demand for the things they buy, which would put other people back to work, and you get a nice virtuous cycle going.
And we’d be saving money over the long haul, even before we factored in the fact that those people we put back to work would pay taxes into the Treasury. So the workers would be better off, the Federal deficit/debt situation would be better over the medium term, etc.
It’s fucking win-win-win. But the GOP wants us to lose, lose, lose.
Friends don’t let friends vote Republican. I used to say that jokingly, but now I’m dead serious. Whatever their motives, this is a party that’s acting in an evil and destructive manner.
RTFirefly, you don’t understand conservative economics. Business and government leaders who let our bridges collapse and our roads become full of potholes are job creators. Gravedigging jobs, front end alignment jobs, …