# To all the, "Trump is the peace candidate, Hillary will get us in to war," people... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 8, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107 "2020-01-08T03:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/21 "2020-01-08T14:37:01Z")
Yeah, but we almost elected a person who sent emails via an alternative server. We saved the nation! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/22 "2020-01-08T16:00:50Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > “Some people feel Donald Trump’s election will being the revolution immediately. I’m more afraid of Hillary Clinton starting a war than I am of Trump building a wall” - Susan Sarandon I’d had a longstanding crush on Susan Sarandon. 2016 took care of that. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/23 "2020-01-08T16:12:11Z")
“Trump is the peace candidate” Funny. I cannot recall hearing those words in that order before. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/24 "2020-01-08T16:16:52Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > “Trump is the peace candidate” > > Funny. I cannot recall hearing those words in that order before. It was a bit of Russian propaganda that was spread by useful idiots e.g. [Trump: Peace Candidate?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=786691) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/25 "2020-01-08T16:26:09Z")
Clinton was certainly more hawkish than I’d like, and I thought that there was a real risk that, under her presidency, we’d end up in a war with Iran or North Korea or somewhere. But at the same time, I was also afraid that, under Trump, we’d end up in a war with Mexico or Delaware. I mean, I didn’t think either was _likely_, but the fact that either was ever even possible is terrifying. So I guess he’s still doing better than the worst-case scenario, but he’s also right on Clinton’s worst-case scenario, and going downhill. ---
**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/26 "2020-01-08T17:21:14Z")
Yeah, [This asshole…](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2016/05/01/opinion/sunday/donald-the-dove-hillary-the-hawk.amp.html) Meanwhile, there was \*so \* godsamned stupid here, I couldn’t pick [just one.](https://www.salon.com/writer/walker_bragman) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/27 "2020-01-08T17:46:32Z")
Maureen Dud gets paid for that. No, _really_! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/28 "2020-01-08T17:48:56Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > IDK, if someone held a gun up to my head and forced me to say ONE nice thing about Trump, it would be he stays the fuck out of wars (mostly). The economy is fine, though that generally has little to do with the president and waaay too much credit/blame is given to the president in that regard. I guess you can say he hasn’t done enough to tank the economy? That’s about the best I can come up with. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/29 "2020-01-08T17:59:07Z")
What aggravates me about this whole situation is: Trump rolled the dice with American lives and he won BIG. Trump killed a powerful Iranian leader, and all Iran got was a damaged military base. Ugh! ---
**Author:** ![phantom\_lamb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@phantom\_lamb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phantom_lamb)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/30 "2020-01-08T18:02:08Z")
I loathe Trump and would have voted for Hillary if I were American… but I can’t deny that Hillary is a known hawk and would have been reasonable to assume she’d continue being one as president. With Trump, not being a hawk really seemed like his only quality. Until last week at least. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/31 "2020-01-08T18:46:09Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > What aggravates me about this whole situation is: Trump rolled the dice with American lives and he won BIG. > > Trump killed a powerful Iranian leader, and all Iran got was a damaged military base. I feel the same, but not because I want people to get hurt. I’m disturbed he won because it will embolden him to roll the dice again, and again, and again, until someone really does get hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/32 "2020-01-08T18:50:13Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > What aggravates me about this whole situation is: Trump rolled the dice with American lives and he won BIG. > > Trump killed a powerful Iranian leader, and all Iran got was a damaged military base. > > Ugh! The game is just beginning. ---
**Author:** ![Steken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Steken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steken)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/33 "2020-01-08T18:50:43Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > What aggravates me about this whole situation is: Trump rolled the dice with American lives and he won BIG. > > Trump killed a powerful Iranian leader, and all Iran got was a damaged military base. > > Ugh! With all due respect, this seems rather short-sighted of you. Iran’s _real_ retaliation will be in pushing the Americans out of Iraq in humiliating fashion. It’s a long-term goal of theirs which, in the light of what has happened, now seems far more likely to succeed than ever before. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/34 "2020-01-08T18:53:55Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > We’re gonna do the Bernie Bros and not the Enlightened Centrists? Man, you disappoint me. _Bernie Bro and the Enlightened Centrists_ would be a great Band name. HA! I’ve always wanted to do one of those. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/35 "2020-01-08T19:02:02Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > What aggravates me about this whole situation is: Trump rolled the dice with American lives and he won BIG. > > Trump killed a powerful Iranian leader, and all Iran got was a damaged military base. > > Ugh! > [@Colibri](#): > > The game is just beginning. Yabbut it’s like his opening roll put him on Chance, and the card sent him over to Boardwalk, allowing him to buy it. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/36 "2020-01-08T19:05:30Z")
More like sending him to Free Parking, only it’s not house rules, so there’s no money for landing on it and the game is in the early going but people still act like it’s somehow a big win. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/37 "2020-01-08T19:20:30Z")
Meh. Y’all know perfectly well that if Hillary had been elected and had done exactly what Trump did, the SDMB would be applauding her courage and statesmanship. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/38 "2020-01-08T19:27:42Z")
Dunno. He got away with talking about grabbing women by the crotch, but doubt that she would have. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/39 "2020-01-08T19:29:51Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Meh. Y’all know perfectly well that if Hillary had been elected and had done exactly what Trump did, the SDMB would be applauding her courage and statesmanship. It’s cool how the only arguments you have left at this point are imaginary things. I can see why, it’s easier not to get curb-stomped by reality. And you know perfectly well that Trump scrapping the JCPOA precipitated this crisis, which Hillary wouldn’t have done, so she wouldn’t be in this self-inflicted crisis to start with. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2020, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107/40 "2020-01-08T19:33:31Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Meh. Y’all know perfectly well that if Hillary had been elected and had done exactly what Trump did, the SDMB would be applauding her courage and statesmanship. > > Regards, > Shodan No. I can’t speak for everyone, but I am fucking tired of being in fucking wars without explicit authorization by fucking Congress. Fuck this shit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-the-trump-is-the-peace-candidate-hillary-will-get-us-in-to-war-people/846107.md?page=3)