# To all Trump supporters

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 23, 2017, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915 "2017-01-23T03:19:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/81 "2017-01-23T19:54:21Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> I’ll tell you the weird thing about that. No one scoffed more at the notion that Trump could make the Mexicans pay for the wall than me, and I’m still highly skeptical. However, it would appear that [a lot of Mexicans think this will happen](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/16/meet-the-mexicans-who-think-mexico-will-pay-for-the-wall.html).
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> [FTR, if it does happen it would probably be an immoral and imperialistic action on the part of the US, in that in involves forcing another country to do something against the interest of its own citizens.]

Interesting. But if the Mexican gov’t thinks this is an unavoidable eventuality, why not build the wall on their side of the border? At least they can then control the costs and contribute to their own economy and labour force.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/82 "2017-01-23T21:05:38Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> In what way is Trump forcing you? Was there an executive order or something that I haven’t heard about compelling the other side to say how they wanted to skull fuck children and blow up the White House and so forth?
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

I dunno. Blowing shit up sounds like fun (I love the 4th of July) but abusing little skulls?

Ain’t nobody got time for that"

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/83 "2017-01-23T21:07:51Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> You gotta love a board where that OP can spark two pages of occasionally rational discussion.
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> FTR, I was speaking hyperbolically. In actuality, I frown upon the skull-fucking of children. I also regret any offense that my intemperate language may have caused to STD-impacted members of the sex-work community.
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> I strive to uphold standards of political discussion based on mutual respect, which focus on policies rather than personalities, and which unite people to work together in a spirit of moral upliftment for the betterment of the community, rather than fostering division and partisan rancor.
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> But DAMN, these stupid motherfuckers make it hard sometimes. (No offense intended to members of the intergenerational-incest community).

I thought it was a pretty good rant. I’m a fan of “over the top”, once in a while.

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/84 "2017-01-23T21:29:17Z")

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Although I do not aspire to the grandiose hyperbole of the OP, I understand perfectly the emotion from which it sprang. Because I share it.

I am a moderately calm, introverted person, but the things trump supporters manage to believe inspires an incoherent rage that surprises and disturbs me. I actually hate them with a pure and utterly violent hatred. I really do. I imagine grabbing heads and slamming them into concrete walls. While screaming at them.

I so admire the millions of people who marched without a single incident of violence. We felt happy and unified and brave. I hope I feel that way again.

So that’s one data point from a liberal cupcake.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/85 "2017-01-23T21:38:15Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I don’t see any board members mentioned.

All Trump supporters includes his supporters on this board, or did you fail English comprehension?

He’s wishing death on me and like-minded posters. He may well call it hyperbole but I didn’t realize that got you round the rule, which is quite clear. I wonder whether a similar death wish on all Clinton supporters would have got a pass from **Colibri**.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/86 "2017-01-23T21:41:17Z")

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**Colibri** isn’t a Pit Mod. Only **Miller** is.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/87 "2017-01-23T21:45:37Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> All Trump supporters includes his supporters on this board, or did you fail English comprehension?
> 
> He’s wishing death on me and like-minded posters. He may well call it hyperbole but I didn’t realize that got you round the rule, which is quite clear. I wonder whether a similar death wish on all Clinton supporters would have got a pass from **Colibri**.

Did you vote for Trump or something?

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**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/88 "2017-01-23T21:47:20Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> If you wish people well, why did you vote for Trump?

Thought of the 2, he was the better choice and I wasn’t going to sit home and not vote.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/89 "2017-01-23T21:55:18Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Fuck you.
> 
> I hope you all die soon. I hope the diseased whores who shat you out of their syphilitic cunts live just long enough to see you die in pain and agony before they, too, succumb to whatever plague a just God has seen fit to inflict on racist, hateful, deliberately ignorant pieces of shit. I hope that your children also get to see you die so I can laugh in their faces, after I spit in them and before I gouge their eyes out and fuck them in their eye sockets.

Chelsea Clinton? Is that you? Does Huma know you’re using Anthony Weiner’s computer again? Does Hillary? :eek:

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/90 "2017-01-23T22:15:37Z")

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Echo, echo, echo… Nice chamber you got here.

Trump is a \*symptom \*of the problem, not the source of the problem.

Lets look at the national standings of the Democratic Party. Outside of a few liberal, urban areas like New York City, not even the whole state, just the city, and California along with the urban areas on the West coast, the Democrats aren’t really even a national party anymore.

A handful of governors, a minority in the House of Representatives, a minority in the Senate, soon a minority on the Supreme Court, Trump didn’t do any of that or even have any influence on that. And he is not even a real Republican.

Continuing the Hillary strategy of painting the issue as Bad Man Trump, without a more positive message is to continue to avoid the real or perceived disenfranchisement of a large segment of US society.

Someday all the working class families will come home to the Democratic party. You have 2 years to show an increase in governorships, a gain in the House and Senate, and a revival of the Party. I just don’t see it coming.

Trump is a symptom of an un-treated problem. See it as that and get a better message out and the national standings of the Democratic party will improve.

Stick to the message of Bad Trump and it will not.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/91 "2017-01-23T22:22:39Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> On another note, there may be other people thinking along the lines of the OP. [Man Bites Ear Off Another Man During Argument About Trump](http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/01/23/man-bites-ear-off-over-trump/) However it’s unclear at this time whether the attacker was a Trump opponent or supporter. Stay tuned.

Yes, apparently it was a [Trump opponent biting off the ear of a Trump supporter](http://www.wtae.com/article/man-bites-off-ear-during-fight-over-donald-trump/8631704).

Possibly even the OP of this very thread, backing up his words with deeds.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-all-trump-supporters/777915/92 "2017-01-23T22:30:05Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> All Trump supporters includes his supporters on this board, or did you fail English comprehension?
> 
> He’s wishing death on me and like-minded posters. He may well call it hyperbole but I didn’t realize that got you round the rule, which is quite clear. I wonder whether a similar death wish on all Clinton supporters would have got a pass from **Colibri**.

Hey, funny story. You know what I don’t have in my inbox? A report, about this thread, from you. But don’t let that stop you from complaining about the moderation around here.

Anywho.

[Moderating]  
**Thing Fish** , your OP of this thread is in violation of the rule about wishing death on other board members. While there is necessarily some wiggle room in that rule for discussing issues where the outcome could be fatal to members of particular groups who also happen to be represented on the board (such as proposing military action somewhere, or discussing acceptable levels of police force, or what’s the proper way to treat fans of Nickelback), this sort of graphic revenge fantasy doesn’t qualify for that sort of exemption. As such, I’m closing this thread. Please make any future politically-themed threads you start sound less like a spec script for the next _Saw_ movie.

No warning issued.  
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