# To bisexual men

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-bisexual-men/580072>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 28, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-bisexual-men/580072 "2011-04-28T19:39:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-bisexual-men/580072/21 "2011-04-29T16:05:06Z")

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> [@Danika](#):
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> A question to bisexual men on this forum, or others who might know the answer.
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> Are bisexual men attracted to certain types of women? Like women with boyish figures? Women above average height? Women who have a dominant personality? In other words women with some masculine traits.

Personally, I prefer masculine men and feminine women. That doesn’t mean I never like androgynous looking people, but they’re not my “type”.

I’m sure we had a thread about androgyny last week… [Here it is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=434561), it’s a zombie that got revived for some reason.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-bisexual-men/580072/22 "2011-04-29T16:10:11Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I disagree that heterosexual men don’t have a type. It’s a very vaguely defined type, but there are some standards that more of us have than don’t. If not, then there would not be so much agreement on who is hot.
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> I’m not exactly sure the exact criteria, but I know that, when I talk to guys about hot women, we all seem to pretty much agree who is hot and who is not. I’d guess an 90% overlap, easy.
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> This sort of thing would make an interesting study, not just for hetero and bisexual men, but also lesbians and bisexual women.

That is an interesting point. Plus, there does seem to be _some_ universality among what we as humans consider attractive in general. I don’t think it’s so strange to speculate if there’s a bi “type” either.

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**Author:** ![Danika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Danika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danika)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-bisexual-men/580072/23 "2011-05-04T21:34:49Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I disagree that heterosexual men don’t have a type. It’s a very vaguely defined type, but there are some standards that more of us have than don’t. If not, then there would not be so much agreement on who is hot.
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> I’m not exactly sure the exact criteria, but I know that, when I talk to guys about hot women, we all seem to pretty much agree who is hot and who is not. I’d guess an 90% overlap, easy.
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> This sort of thing would make an interesting study, not just for hetero and bisexual men, but also lesbians and bisexual women.

Yes, it would be an interesting study. Maybe it’s already been done by someone?

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**Author:** ![Danika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Danika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danika)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-bisexual-men/580072/24 "2011-05-04T21:40:20Z")

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> [@Eats\_Crayons](#):
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> I’m a bisexual woman. The women I’ve dated have been quite a diverse range of body types, although most have been quite girly. The men I’ve dated on the other hand have all been more of a consistent “type”. Most of them were like Steve Rodgers (aka Captain America). The comic book version, not the Chris Evans version. So per the OP: no, I have not dated girly men, nor manly women.

Interesting. Obiviously not all bisexuals agree with the hypothesis in my OP.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-bisexual-men/580072/25 "2011-05-04T23:22:14Z")

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> [@Danika](#):
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> Originally Posted by Gary T View Post  
> It does not seem unreasonable to me to wonder whether a bi male, who is different from straight males in having an attraction to men, might have an attraction to women who in some way resemble men.
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> Yes, that was my thought as well.

Does that particular meat grinder turn backwards? Say I’m attracted to solidly built gals with short hair who don’t like wearing makeup, or tallish comic actresses with low voices. Could a convincing psychoanalytic argument then be presented that my desire for a non-stereotypical woman is really just repressed bisexuality?

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-bisexual-men/580072/26 "2011-05-05T02:27:31Z")

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I like masculine men and feminine women. Effeminate men and butch women leave me cold.

Men and women are not chocolate and vanilla. I don’t want a swirl cone.

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**Author:** ![Ura-Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ura-Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ura-Maru)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-bisexual-men/580072/27 "2011-05-05T03:55:27Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Does that particular meat grinder turn backwards? Say I’m attracted to solidly built gals with short hair who don’t like wearing makeup, or tallish comic actresses with low voices. Could a convincing psychoanalytic argument then be presented that my desire for a non-stereotypical woman is really just repressed bisexuality?

You’ve really never heard someone argue that? **Obviously** , any guy into a cute boyish goth chick or a girl who likes pretty boys is **obviously** gay but won’t admit it to themselves. Or just a guy into assertive women, or a woman dating a man who’s more comfortable in a supportive role.

Well, usually it’s less ‘arguing’ than ‘talking about people behind their backs’ but the line of reasoning is the same. I personally find this reasoning, ah, **less than compelling** , but I’ve heard it. Often backed with the argument that women who like butch chicks and men who like girly dudes aren’t really gay.

Anyway, I’m not bi enough to answer the question directly, but pretty much all the bi people I know (though most were women) had very different ideals when it came to men and women.

In any case, ‘some masculine traits’ is vague enough that it could probably be applied to a good majority of women. ‘Above average height,’ no makeup, good at math, assertive, ‘works in a male dominated field,’ deep voice, ‘some traditionally male hobbies,’ ‘dominant personality,’ athletic, naturally hirsute . . . few women have most of them, but almost all have one or two.

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Though I suppose it is better than claiming that male bisexuals don’t exist, and that any who claim to it are either lying or delusional.

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**Author:** ![Danika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dfb087/32.png) [@Danika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danika)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-bisexual-men/580072/28 "2011-05-08T14:46:34Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Does that particular meat grinder turn backwards? Say I’m attracted to solidly built gals with short hair who don’t like wearing makeup, or tallish comic actresses with low voices. Could a convincing psychoanalytic argument then be presented that my desire for a non-stereotypical woman is really just repressed bisexuality?

Not in my book but I’m sure there are people who would see it that way 😉 Personally I don’t think people are bisexual without themselves knowing it.

> [@Ura-Maru](#):
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> In any case, ‘some masculine traits’ is vague enough that it could probably be applied to a good majority of women. ‘Above average height,’ no makeup, good at math, assertive, ‘works in a male dominated field,’ deep voice, ‘some traditionally male hobbies,’ ‘dominant personality,’ athletic, naturally hirsute . . . few women have most of them, but almost all have one or two.

True and I did mean women who have _many_ masculine traits.

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