# To Democrats: An open invitation

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-democrats-an-open-invitation/272784>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 3, 2004, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-democrats-an-open-invitation/272784 "2004-11-03T16:45:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-democrats-an-open-invitation/272784/41 "2004-11-04T02:12:44Z")

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I’m on board for the cooler weather. It’s too damn hot in this state anyway. The pictures were gorgeous, I must admit. However I have little to offer Canada and its citizens. I’m not too happy with the current state of events here in the U.S., but I think the best thing I can do personally is stay here and work to change what I can. I’ve often thought of running for public office myself when I’m old enough, but I’d be a fool and a liar if I said I thought I stood a chance of being elected. Should definitely move to another state for that, at the very least.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-democrats-an-open-invitation/272784/42 "2004-11-04T04:53:16Z")

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If jobs and immigration weren’t an issue, I’d gladly move. I was thinking about it earlier today when I read the headlines. I too, like the rest of us, love the land of America and the people we know here. Not so much in my case, however, that I have a desire to actively support hate with my tax dollars.

In fact, if it weren’t for my family, (plus jobs and immigration,) I’d go somewhere in Europe.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-democrats-an-open-invitation/272784/43 "2004-11-04T04:56:59Z")

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I seriously spent two hours trying to talk my fellow Liberal Dem husband into it.

We’re giving it six months to decide whether Vancouver’s more attractive than New Jersey. We’d get the high taxes and expensive housing minus the fundamentalist Christian government.

Doesn’t sound too bad to me. 😉

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**Author:** ![ShockingAlberto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ea924/32.png) [@ShockingAlberto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShockingAlberto)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-democrats-an-open-invitation/272784/44 "2004-11-04T05:00:24Z")

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[Canada doesn’t seem to want us.](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/11/03/international2015EST1166.DTL)

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-democrats-an-open-invitation/272784/45 "2004-11-04T05:03:42Z")

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> [@kingpengvin](#):
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> Come up to live in Canada. We offer a good economy excellent standard of living, plenty of space and all the opportunities and luxuries you enjoy in the United States.  
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I’m sticking it out. Canada is a wonderful place to visit but I live here.  
I figure it’ll be about 2 years when it sucks so bad even\* our \* (SDMB)Republicans won’t like it anymore.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-democrats-an-open-invitation/272784/46 "2004-11-04T05:26:05Z")

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I’ve given both Canada and New Zealand serious thought. Montreal would be interesing, or Quebec. My French is pretty rotten these days, but hopefully I could get by and reclaim some skill.

Vancouver looks simply fantastic.

Dunno. My family is a major part of what keeps me around, especially my folks and my neices, who live in Maine, and who I visit all the time. Being a great distance from them would be really hard, which is why the Maritime Provinces and Quebec interest me. I think it would be difficult finding a job there, doing what I do, at any rate, so my chances of being able to emmigrate any time soon would be pretty slim regardless of family or other such concerns.

As it is, I’m smack in the middle of one of the most flamingly liberal parts of the country, so my local environment is pretty tolerable to my tastes. We’ve got that Mitt Romney to get rid of, but maybe Shrub will do the dirty work for us and make him an ambassador or something.

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**Author:** ![MisterThyristor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecccb3/32.png) [@MisterThyristor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MisterThyristor)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2004, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-democrats-an-open-invitation/272784/47 "2004-11-04T06:39:36Z")

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> [@JohnM](#):
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> If I may, I have an alternative suggestion that doesn’t require giving up the fight. Rather, if you’re a Dem in a safe state, consider a move to one of the borderline states. Hell, New York alone has 1 million excess Dems; move 200,000 of them to Ohio and the election would have gone the other way. We can emigrate our way to victory! Now, given my location, I obviously can’t move as the situation is still too precarious here, but commited Democratic residents of Illinois, California and New York need to call their realtors and head hunters now.
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> Yes, it is pretty much tongue in cheek, but it’s not that far out, is it? In a way, it happened once before, with the demographic and political changes brought about by the great black migration to the Northern cities. More realistically, though, just give it some time, and the pendulum will swing back to left of center.

See, now here’s a great idea, and nobody’s taking it seriously. May I suggest Cleveland?

Cheap cost of living and you’d have the company of other Democrats who think like you do. (Don’t blame Cuyahoga County for Ohio, they asked us to beat Bush by more than 200,000 votes in order to counteract the southern part of the state, and we did.)

And we even make maple syrup here.

Of course, you might have a harder time finding jobs; and if you’ve got any ideas on how to improve the inner-city schools, we’d love to hear 'em.

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