# To Liberal:  I'm not pitting you.. I'm just confused

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 24, 2007, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489 "2007-02-24T07:42:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 9:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/21 "2007-02-24T09:24:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
I feel that, given your life experience, it is a perfectly reasonable position. Incidentally, I don’t believe in the Bible either. 🙂  
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When you say you dont believe in the Bible, do you mean that you dont think it’s the Word of God, or that it never existed, or that… well, can you just please explain your position for us poor souls who dont know your background?

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/22 "2007-02-24T09:27:54Z")

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What religion are you into then? Or do you just make it up as you go along? Be specific.  
Or are you just a fucking hypocrite again.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/23 "2007-02-24T09:33:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Autolycus]  
When you say you dont believe in the Bible, do you mean that you dont think it’s the Word of God, or that it never existed, or that… well, can you just please explain your position for us poor souls who dont know your background?  
[/QUOTE]  
I believe that it exists, I just don’t believe **in** it in the same sense that I believe in God, Whom I trust, rely on, and cling to. And it definitely isn’t the Word of God because Christ is the Word of God. It is a wonderful guide, but it isn’t holy. It contains great truths, but it isn’t without error.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/24 "2007-02-24T09:40:41Z")

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Lib, since you had your “conversion”, you have talked so much crap and bullshit you sound like a complete fraud re your beliefs.

You don’t seem to understand or comprehend how you come across on the board.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/25 "2007-02-24T09:51:08Z")

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[…shrug…]

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/26 "2007-02-24T09:57:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
[…shrug…]  
[/QUOTE]

WTF is that? Can you respond? Are you speechless? Or you choose not to engage?  
I don’t deal with your bullshit much, but yes, in messageboard world, you are irritating me.

Pussy. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/27 "2007-02-24T10:32:03Z")

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Chickenshit fuck. I am an atheist BTW, but I don’t change my shit to accommodate the “make me feel good on the board crowd”

You are the ultimate SDMB drama queen little bitch. You think your pseudo-intellectual bullshit somehow makes Dopers think you are the shit, but heh, most are laughing at you.

You are the ultimate board whore, and I have seen your type since Usenet and BBS shit 20 years ago.

Anyway, you are entertaining in your little way, which is why when I stumble on your lame shit, I can’t help a flame or two. Smoochies…

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/28 "2007-02-24T10:51:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Quiddity Glomfuster]  
One idiot. You going to think ill of millions of people because of one idiot?  
[/QUOTE]  
No, like me, he’s going to think ill of millions of people because of millions of idiots. If you believe that particular pastor is the only one, you might want to move out of your shoebox.

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**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/29 "2007-02-24T11:31:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Klaatu]  
You think your pseudo-intellectual bullshit somehow makes Dopers think you are the shit, but heh, most are laughing at you.  
[/QUOTE]

I’ll speak for myself on this one.

The calling out of the guest poster linked in the OP strikes me as pathedic. Is it Liberal hoping to out Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber posting as a sock? To what end?

Is Liberal going to freak out and starting questioning every guest with a pattern to their name? Will this lead to Liberal having another fit and leaving.  
I used to laugh at Liberal, then I rolled my eyes. Now that he’s resorted to paying off people to not post I think he’s a sad, sad little man.

He’s no longer worth my time.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/30 "2007-02-24T12:15:01Z")

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[QUOTE=Seven]  
I’ll speak for myself on this one.

The calling out of the guest poster linked in the OP strikes me as pathedic. Is it Liberal hoping to out Pseudotriton Ruber Ruber posting as a sock? To what end?

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Ummm…so he’s not out 500 bucks? Just a thought.  
This will not end well.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/31 "2007-02-24T12:50:37Z")

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[QUOTE=eleanorigby]  
Ummm…so he’s not out 500 bucks? Just a thought.  
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Won’t work. If that guy is indeed a sock, he’ll be banned and if The Powers That Be say anything at all about it, they’ll say “he was a sock”. They’ve never said anything more than that and have specifically said they won’t have anything to do with this deal. **Lib** has no basis for welshing on the deal.

In short, he’s screwed.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/32 "2007-02-24T13:04:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Eleusis]  
I will add that my beautiful wife also asked me, when we started dating, about my religious convictions.

I replied, honestly, that I had been raised Christian.

Fast forward three years, I’m a “devout” atheist-leaning-agnositc, and she’s slightly pissed about it.

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Well, y’know, bait’n’switch generally comes back to bite you in the ass. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/33 "2007-02-24T14:13:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
In short, he’s screwed.  
[/QUOTE]  
Nope. Like I said before, I already got what I paid for.

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**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/34 "2007-02-24T15:03:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Seven]

Is Liberal going to freak out and starting questioning every guest with a pattern to their name?  
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I’ll cut him some slack over the fact that QSS is PRR advanced by one letter…so when a guest shows up with the initials RTT, liberal might very well take notice.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/35 "2007-02-24T15:03:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Nope. Like I said before, I already got what I paid for.  
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Well, you know, if he keeps posting and you’re still out the money, it kinda seems like you’re screwed. And if you don’t care about that, why did you bother to interrogate **Quentin**?

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**Author:** ![stretch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@stretch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stretch)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/36 "2007-02-24T15:09:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> > [@Eleusis](#):
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> > I will add that my beautiful wife also asked me, when we started dating, about my religious convictions.
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> > I replied, honestly, that I had been raised Christian.
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> > Fast forward three years, I’m a “devout” atheist-leaning-agnositc, and she’s slightly pissed about it.
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> [QUOTE=Malacandra]  
> Well, y’know, bait’n’switch generally comes back to bite you in the ass. :dubious:

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Come on, **Mal** , you know that people change and continue to grow–that’s not bait and switch. What’s **Eleusis** supposed to do–not learn new things so he won’t grow out of his Christianity? Stay off the Dope so his beliefs aren’t challenged? Shit, I would still be the same whiny bitch I was at 14 if I hadn’t continued to grow.

I married a nice Methodist boy and now he’s almost athier\* than me. I didn’t make that happen, or even encourage it. He’s grown and changed. He’s changed in other ways too. That’s part of life.

\*I meant to do that.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/37 "2007-02-24T15:50:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
Well, you know, if he keeps posting and you’re still out the money, it kinda seems like you’re screwed. And if you don’t care about that, why did you bother to interrogate **Quentin**?  
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Because I’ve instructed Tris that if PRR posts as a sock to give the money to a charity of his choice. Incidentally, if you don’t mind my using this response to you to make another point, I was not the one who pointed out the PRR -\> QSS coincidence, and did not even mention it in my list of questions. The middle “S” is rather weird, though. If you’re going to honor a living philosopher, why screw up his name? It’d be like a Christian posting as Jesus H. Christ.

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**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/38 "2007-02-24T16:18:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Liberal]  
Because I’ve instructed Tris that if PRR posts as a sock to give the money to a charity of his choice.  
[/QUOTE]  
Which brings us neatly back to the point I made in my first post in this thread: you won’t ever find out if he did.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/39 "2007-02-24T16:23:41Z")

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[QUOTE=stretch]  
Come on, **Mal** , you know that people change and continue to grow–that’s not bait and switch. What’s **Eleusis** supposed to do–not learn new things so he won’t grow out of his Christianity? Stay off the Dope so his beliefs aren’t challenged? Shit, I would still be the same whiny bitch I was at 14 if I hadn’t continued to grow.

I married a nice Methodist boy and now he’s almost athier\* than me. I didn’t make that happen, or even encourage it. He’s grown and changed. He’s changed in other ways too. That’s part of life.

\*I meant to do that.  
[/QUOTE]

No it sounds as though Eleusis deliberately implied (depectively) that he was Christian, then wandered away from it without making his feelings clear. Now his girl has problem with it. No big surprise.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2007, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-liberal-im-not-pitting-you-im-just-confused/393489/40 "2007-02-24T16:32:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Priceguy]  
Which brings us neatly back to the point I made in my first post in this thread: you won’t ever find out if he did.  
[/QUOTE]  
Which brings us back to my first response to you: I don’t care — I have what I wanted.

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