# To-morrow is Saint Crispian **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 25, 2005, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768 "2005-10-25T03:33:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/21 "2005-10-25T20:02:19Z")
Bonus points to whomever can name the source of this quotation. _“I have studied all the touchstone performances of Henry V, Olivier, Branagh, Kulnark, Shapiro…”_ ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/22 "2005-10-25T21:01:33Z")
…O, do not wish one more! Rather proclaim it, Westmoreland, through my host, That he which hath no stomach to this fight, Let him depart. His passport shall be made, And crowns for convoy put into his purse. We would not die in that man’s company That fears his fellowship to die with us. This day is call’d the feast of Crispian. He that outlives this day, and comes safe home, Will stand a tip-toe when this day is named, And rouse him at the name of Crispian. He that shall live this day, and see old age, Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours, And say, “To-morrow is Saint Crispian.” Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars, And say, “These wounds I had on Crispian’s day.” Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot, But he’ll remember with advantages What feats he did that day. Then shall our names, Familiar in his mouth as household words, Harry the King, Bedford, and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester, Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb’red. This story shall the good man teach his son; And Crispin Crispian shall ne’er go by, From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be remembered, We few, we happy few, we band of brothers. For he to-day that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition; And gentlemen in England now a-bed Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/23 "2005-10-25T21:08:48Z")
> [@Tracy Lord](#): > > _strips sleeves and shows scars_ > > These wounds had I on Crispin’s day! With those guys…er, what were their names? _checks flowing cups_ Oh, yes – Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester…now, son, I’ll teach you the story of the feats I did that day. (With advantages!) :eek: Just how old _are_ you? And will you tell me the secret of living that long? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/24 "2005-10-25T21:54:18Z")
> [@Anne Neville](#): > > :eek: Just how old _are_ you? > > And will you tell me the secret of living that long? 😉 First, get a good longbow… ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/25 "2005-10-25T22:30:51Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I wouldn’t wish for one more poster on this board!. 🙂 “We few, we happy few, we band of Dopers.” 😉 > [@](#): > > O, now, who will behold > The Perfect Master of this ruin’d band > Walking from watch to watch, from tent to tent, > Let him cry ‘Praise and glory on his head!’ > For forth he goes and visits all his host; > Bids them good morrow with a modest smile, > And calls them brothers, friends, and countrymen. > Upon his royal face there is no note > How ignorant an army hath enrounded him; > Nor doth he dedicate one jot of colour > Unto the weary and all-watched night; > But freshly looks, and over-bears attaint > With cheerful semblance and sweet majesty; > That every Doper, pining and pale before, > Beholding him, plucks comfort from his looks; > A largess universal, like the sun, > His liberal\* eye doth give to every one, > Thawing cold fear, that mean and gentle all > Behold, as may unworthiness define, > A little touch of Cecil in the night. - apologies to Bricker, John Mace, Clothahump, etc. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2005, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/26 "2005-10-25T23:24:42Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > Blasphemy!! twas the longbow and studly Prince Hal! and the might and main of good old yeoman blood (make that English yeoman blood!) > > At least that’s what I was taught in both Shakespeare and British History… Could be. There’s also a lot of fiction in the US history taught in school. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/27 "2005-10-26T02:27:36Z")
> [@David Simmons](#): > > Could be. There’s also a lot of fiction in the US history taught in school. Are you saying that they lie like kings? (Sorry. top of my head, and all that. All of the memorable quotes were taken.) hh ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/28 "2005-10-26T02:35:37Z")
Hey, that Shakespeare guy TOTALLY ripped of Bill Pullman in **Independence Day**. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/29 "2005-10-26T12:39:19Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Bonus points to whomever can name the source of this quotation. > > _“I have studied all the touchstone performances of Henry V, Olivier, Branagh, Kulnark, Shapiro…”_ Data, from Next Gen. In a discussion of acting with Picard on the holodeck. ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/30 "2005-10-26T12:55:26Z")
So…this is NOT a meeting of the Crispin glover fan club… ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/31 "2005-10-26T13:23:16Z")
Mmm … Rice Crispin Treats _drools_ ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/32 "2005-10-26T13:52:03Z")
So mud killed 5000 French but only 113 English/Welsh. “Interesting” idea. ---
**Author:** ![PookahMacPhellimey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pookahmacphellimey/32/3175_2.png) [@PookahMacPhellimey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PookahMacPhellimey)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/33 "2005-10-26T14:05:42Z")
> [@Wile E](#): > > Mmm … Rice Crispin Treats _drools_ You all keep eating Rice Crispins. I’ll have [uno gelato](http://www.ilgelatodisancrispino.com/indexing.htm), per favore. (Seriously, I was at this place and this is the best ice cream in the world. Ever. No question.) ---
**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/34 "2005-10-26T14:25:51Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > So mud killed 5000 French but only 113 English/Welsh. “Interesting” idea. It’s not quite that straightforward. The battle site is mainly in a draw that would have bunched the French horsement up in its bottom. The claim was that the French horses bogged down and the heavily armored knights were unable to move much when dismounted, especially in the mud, and were easy marks. Tests were made of the efficacy of arrows from longbows against armor and it isn’t very good at long range. The soil is of a type that becomes gummy when wet. The shakey part is the weather of course, but apparently the battle was during what is normally a wet time of year. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Simmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9de053/32.png) [@David\_Simmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_Simmons)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/35 "2005-10-26T17:07:02Z")
[Aha!](http://www.historychannel.com/thcsearch/thc_resourcedetail.do?encyc_id=200396) I knew I could find it. And just to even up on the history myths, Geo. Washington wasn’t stupid enough to stand up in the rowboat while crossing the Delaware River during good weather, let alone bad and at night. With the wind blowing. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/36 "2005-10-26T19:58:36Z")
Merry (belated!) Crispmas! ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/37 "2005-10-26T20:48:33Z")
> [@David Simmons](#): > > And just to even up on the history myths, Geo. Washington wasn’t stupid enough to stand up in the rowboat while crossing the Delaware River during good weather, let alone bad and at night. With the wind blowing. What? You’re saying our first president _wasn’t_ an Aggie? ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768/38 "2005-10-26T23:13:50Z")
> [@David Simmons](#): > > [Aha!](http://www.historychannel.com/thcsearch/thc_resourcedetail.do?encyc_id=200396) I knew I could find it. > > And just to even up on the history myths, Geo. Washington wasn’t stupid enough to stand up in the rowboat while crossing the Delaware River during good weather, let alone bad and at night. With the wind blowing. What really happened makes, to me anyway, a better story. General Henry “Ox” Knox(the one the gold fort is named for, weighed 280 pounds. After the war he reported that, when Washington was getting into the same boat Know was in he tapped him with his foot and said “Shift that fat ass Harry. But slowly, or you’ll swamp the damned boat.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-morrow-is-saint-crispian/327768.md?page=1)