# To our poor little bigoted para-illegal David42.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 5, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916 "2013-04-05T13:42:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![EverwonderWhy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EverwonderWhy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EverwonderWhy)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/21 "2013-04-05T18:29:26Z")

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Um yeah, **David42** is really obsessed with procreative aspects of marriage and trumpets the ‘heterosexual accidental pregnancy argument’ as justification to exclude same sex couples from marriage. Cause yanno, the problem is not the accidental/unintended pregnancy. Nope, it’s that heterosexuals who will _inevitably_ suffer an accidental pregnancy (despite comprehensive sex education, contraceptives, abortion or adoption alternatives) will not marry because same sex marriage severs procreation from marriage. Yes, ‘responsible procreation’ is a shot-gun wedding - not preventing the ‘oopsie’ to begin with and planning your children to ensure they are born into stable emotional and financial environments.

After reading that nonsense in the “Predict how the Supreme Court will Decide the Same Sex Marriage Cases” thread, I decided to do a search on **David42’s** posts before responding and found this little [gem](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=14722546#post14722546).

> [@Cynthia Nixon states she's "gay by choice". Does this harm the LGBT community?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cynthia-nixon-states-shes-gay-by-choice-does-this-harm-the-lgbt-community/610554/96):
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> Particularly, it is highly offensive when gays compare their sex act as the equivalent of the act of making life. You draw comparisons between my child and your frothy mix of lube and feces and tell me it’s equal.  
> …
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> There’s not a single thing I do that I would deny to you, nor a single thing that I would allow people to do that I would deny to homosexuals. You want to do something that I would deny to all, namely, mock the creation of life in marriage.
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> If I were ever to be persuaded, it wouldn’t be because you convinced me that a “frothy mix” is the equivalent of a baby.

He goes on to [post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14722809&postcount=107) that equating same sex relationships with heterosexuals is essentially saying “the shit on your dick is the equivalent of my son.”

Aside from his disgusting homophobic rhetoric; apparently, if you have sex without intending to procreate you are “mocking the creation of life in marriage.”

Back to the “Predict how the Supreme Court will Decide the Same Sex Marriage Cases” thread:

> [@Predict how the Supreme Court will Decide the Same Sex Marriage Cases](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/predict-how-the-supreme-court-will-decide-the-same-sex-marriage-cases/653936/531):
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> Two proposals, and one of them is actually serious. One of my two casual girlfriends is bisexual and has been following the thread as I write and watching me work.
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> She says she is extremely impressed (after reading Bricker’s _Jones_ thread) that the exact words I used arguing there were used by a Supreme Court majority in taking the law in a new direction.
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> She also says that she had previously never understood what marriage is about–and was not ever interested in being married. She says I illuminated the whole thing for her and made it actually interesting–marriage as the idea of iondividual rights didn’t seem to take her anywhere–but understanding it as a societal duty gives her a reason to want to do it.
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> She weeps over her abortion at 17 years old and says I have done what no man even gave her a hint needed doing before.
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> I am mindful that if I were addressing her instead of the board, this may not have happened.
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> One young person’s (she is 19) mind was greatly changed today.

Huh? Delusional. Societal duty to marry? And he keeps tooting his horn about this _Jones_ and Bricker thread, where apparently SCOTUS used his same argument in their ruling. Seriously dude, join MENSA or something. Going on and on about that makes you look pathetic.

It is quite obvious what a vile creature David42 is and engaging with him in an attempt to ‘fight his ignorance’ is futile.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/22 "2013-04-05T18:31:14Z")

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So he needs to get laid. Meh.

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**Author:** ![EverwonderWhy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EverwonderWhy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EverwonderWhy)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/23 "2013-04-05T18:35:26Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> So he needs to get laid. Meh.

I’m not so sure since he claims to have two casual girlfriends (one of which is bisexual). I think he really needs to go back to law school since dropping out has driven him to extreme lengths and delusion in order to prove his “intellect”.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/24 "2013-04-05T19:08:40Z")

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> [@stpauler](#):
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> Yeah, my OP was a bit TL;DR. The gist is:
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> 1. He’s consistently homophobic and blames the board for not letting his hate flag fly.
> 2. He’s a wannabe lawyer but doesn’t know what he’s talking about and has actually gotten in trouble with his AG for practicing law without a license.
> 3. He’s really “ignorant”.

It sounded to me that he was in law school for a while. Anyone know if he flunked out, was kicked out for being an asshole, or if the storefront closed?

I kind of believe him about the girlfriend. Anyone dating this guy must have the IQ of a turnip, so no wonder she is impressed. “Marrying involves children sometimes? Who knew?”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/25 "2013-04-05T19:12:17Z")

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Ugh. I retained a vague memory of those posts but my brain had spared me the details.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/26 "2013-04-05T19:22:39Z")

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He also, if he’s to be believed, seems to be upset about people not being prosecuted for adultery and for women divorcing men who beat them.

He complained about how gay marriage was diminishing “the dignity of marriage”. I sarcastically added that marriage’s dignity was already destroyed when they allowed blacks and whites to intermarry to which he claimed:

> [@](#):
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> **David42**  
> I refer more to anti-heartbalms (cannot enforce your marriage against interlopers) decline of adultery prosecution, and no-fault divorce (marriage is non-binding even for frivolous reasons)\*\* as well as making a huge deal out of minor violence to break families up\*\*.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/27 "2013-04-05T19:24:34Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Like the old proverb says: he who uses \*\*Drunky Smurf \*\*for his lawyer has a fool for a client.

I may not be Mr. Super Awesome Para-Illegal but I can fight a court case like nobodys’ business and as soon as I get out of jail for contempt of court I’ll show you all how good I am at law things.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/28 "2013-04-05T19:32:38Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by **David42** View Post
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> She weeps over her abortion at 17 years old and says I have done what no man even gave her a hint needed doing before.

I cannot get this line out of my head

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**Author:** ![PoorYorick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecccb3/32.png) [@PoorYorick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoorYorick)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/29 "2013-04-05T19:38:35Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> I cannot get this line out of my head

If I had the vaguest clue what it meant, I probably wouldn’t be able to get it out of my head either.

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**Author:** ![EverwonderWhy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EverwonderWhy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EverwonderWhy)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/30 "2013-04-05T19:48:13Z")

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Hmm, in **David42’s** ‘frothy mixture’ posts, he claims to have a child - a son. Yet, now he has two casual girlfriends, so apparently he is not married to the mother of his child (if one actually exists) or is committing adultery (something he thinks should be prosecuted). Interesting circumstances for someone against no fault divorce, who foams at the mouth over ‘responsible procreation’ and the ‘societal duty to marry’…

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/31 "2013-04-05T20:01:51Z")

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> [@PoorYorick](#):
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> If I had the vaguest clue what it meant, I probably wouldn’t be able to get it out of my head either.

I think it’s partially the erratic shift in person that makes it baffling. Here, I’ll fix it.  
She weeps over her abortion at 17 years old and says, “I have done what no man even gave me a hint needed doing before.”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/32 "2013-04-05T20:03:08Z")

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> [@EverwonderWhy](#):
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> Hmm, in **David42’s** ‘frothy mixture’ posts, he claims to have a child - a son. Yet, now he has two casual girlfriends, so apparently he is not married to the mother of his child (if one actually exists) or is committing adultery (something he thinks should be prosecuted). Interesting circumstances for someone against no fault divorce, who foams at the mouth over ‘responsible procreation’ and the ‘societal duty to marry’…

Here’s a crazy theory: his wife left him because he beat her, and that’s why he keeps raving about how wrong it is that liberals turn every little instance of violence into a crisis that breaks up a family.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/33 "2013-04-05T20:03:48Z")

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> [@EverwonderWhy](#):
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> Interesting circumstances for someone against no fault divorce, who foams at the mouth over ‘responsible procreation’ and the ‘societal duty to marry’…

To be more than fair, if you procreated with **David42** , wouldn’t you eventually sober up, get the divorce (and restraining order), and ignore his entreaties that you are violating the natural order by divorcing him?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/34 "2013-04-05T21:41:29Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Here’s a crazy theory: his wife left him because he beat her, and that’s why he keeps raving about how wrong it is that liberals turn every little instance of violence into a crisis that breaks up a family.

Seems like a reasonable hypothesis.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/35 "2013-04-05T22:10:21Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Here’s a query for the legal types: If someone gets in trouble in your state for practicing law without a license, what’s their realistic chances of actually being admitted to the Bar later in life, presumably after they’ve earned a law degree and/or passed the Bar exam?

I dunno off the top of my head. Certainly it would hurt – might even hurt your chances of getting into (an ABA-approved) law school or registering for the Bar Exam. Depending on the state. For all I know, in Alaska (which has no ABA-approved law schools at all) they’re hungry enough for lawyers to overlook certain things.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/36 "2013-04-05T23:01:40Z")

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I wonder if his bisexual girlfriend is aware of his homo-bigotry?

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**Author:** ![BunnyTVS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BunnyTVS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyTVS)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/37 "2013-04-05T23:25:46Z")

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So he’s been to law school, worked as a paralegal for 12 years, did his unlicensed law work for 2 more years and now runs a book store. He has(had) a wife and son.  
So he’s a guy in his mid 30’s (at least) dating a bisexual 19 y.o.  
And he thinks _homosexuals_ are fucked up :smack:

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**Author:** ![wipetheclock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@wipetheclock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wipetheclock)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/38 "2013-04-06T01:03:17Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> I wonder if his bisexual girlfriend is aware of his homo-bigotry?

Didn’t you get the (straight guy) bigot memo? Gay men are gross. Lesbians are invisible or nasty or just need a good fucking. Young, attractive women who proclaim to be bisexual are HOT.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/39 "2013-04-06T02:10:26Z")

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> [@EverwonderWhy](#):
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> Interesting circumstances for someone against no fault divorce, who foams at the mouth…

I suppose he thinks it’s better than foaming at the anus.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2013, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-our-poor-little-bigoted-para-illegal-david42/654916/40 "2013-04-06T06:02:35Z")

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> [@PoorYorick](#):
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> If I had the vaguest clue what it meant, I probably wouldn’t be able to get it out of my head either.

I think he’s saying that he was the first person who made her realize she should be sad she got an abortion?

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