# To select SDMB Cheatriots' Defenders

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 6, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426 "2015-05-06T21:50:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/161 "2015-05-12T18:49:15Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Actually, I think Bricker has him on ignore. Which makes his desperate flailing for Bricker’s attention that much funnier.

It’s the whole John Hinckley / Jody Foster thing… Let’s hope his aim isn’t any better.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/162 "2015-05-12T19:03:43Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> So is the Five Minutes Hate over now? If you still have some left, by all means, go ahead. I can always use a good laugh.
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> When any of you have some facts and reasoning to present, on any subject for that matter, the forums dedicated to \*fighting \*ignorance are all available to you. Perhaps you’ll realize that when you turn 14.

Shake it off, TaylorSw1ft!

_Cause the Pats are gonna cheat cheat cheat cheat cheat  
And the league has got the data data data data data  
But I’m just gonna hand-wave wave wave wave wave  
Hand wave away, hand wave away_

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/163 "2015-05-12T19:19:30Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> When any of you have some facts and reasoning to present, on any subject for that matter, the forums dedicated to \*fighting \*ignorance are all available to you.

You’re taking longer than we thought.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/164 "2015-05-12T20:11:43Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> So is the Five Minutes Hate over now? If you still have some left, by all means, go ahead. I can always use a good laugh…

That’s a poor reference. You see, people on your own side of the aisle think you’re an idiot. But hey laugh it off and call us immature. Don’t think anyone actually expects you to change. You’re hardwired to be a blathering knob…

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/165 "2015-05-12T20:17:55Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> You’re taking longer than we thought.

So, have you figured out what Belichick should be suspended for yet? 😉

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/166 "2015-05-12T20:55:35Z")

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I had already conceded that he should not, but I’m reconsidering since he now has to answer for people like you.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/167 "2015-05-12T21:02:56Z")

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First Rule of Holes, my friend.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/168 "2015-05-12T21:12:31Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> First Rule of Holes, my friend.

My irony meter just busted.

Just when I think you couldn’t be more blind to your own idiocy, you top yourself. I think that maybe you’re actually some kind of internet performance art piece. You’re not actually the world’s most self-unaware idiot, you’re actually an internet based avant garde artist, out to make a larger comment on the inability of intelligent people to allow idiocy to flourish unchecked.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/169 "2015-05-12T21:13:41Z")

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You, however, need to apply the Zeroth Rule of Holes first: Be able to realize you’re in one.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/170 "2015-05-12T21:14:50Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You, however, need to apply the Zeroth Rule of Holes first: Be able to realize you’re in one.

Definitely the avant garde artist.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/171 "2015-05-12T21:18:06Z")

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Do please notice how far you’re _not_ getting in the forums where one’s assertions need to be backed up, and schoolyard invective is not permitted.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/172 "2015-05-12T21:26:07Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Do please notice how far you’re _not_ getting in the forums where one’s assertions need to be backed up, and schoolyard invective is not permitted.

Thanks for the reminder. Let me rephrase what I said earlier:

" You’re not actually the world’s most self-unaware _delusional_ idiot, you’re actually an internet based avant garde artist, out to make a larger comment on the inability of intelligent people to allow idiocy to flourish unchecked.

Glad you could remind me to include reference to your inability to perceive reality.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/173 "2015-05-12T21:27:12Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I had already conceded that he should not, but I’m reconsidering since he now has to answer for people like you.

Please don’t blame Elvis on the rest of us.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/174 "2015-05-13T17:49:26Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Please don’t blame Elvis on the rest of us.

I kind of do, but that’s not why I’m here. I’m here to tell ElvisL1ves to jam his fanboy Pats wank-site up his fucking asshole. Just because a different Patriots homer douchebag than you wrote an opinion down doesn’t suddenly make it “factual.” (It does make it awesomely funny that the Pats fans feel a need to set up a whole website to convince everyone else that the Pats are only average cheaters.

I’d smugly tell you that maybe you’ll learn that someday when you grow up, son, but: 1) you’ve demonstrated resoundingly that you have no capacity for learning, and 2) apparently you’re 70 years old.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/175 "2015-05-13T18:02:16Z")

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You really want to fuck Brady right in that dimple, don’t you? Yes, you do, big boy, right in the dimple … 😉

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/176 "2015-05-13T18:04:26Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> You really want to fuck Brady right in that dimple, don’t you? Yes, you do, big boy, right in the dimple … 😉

Now you’re just stealing Jon Stewart’s material. Unsurprising, for a Patriots fan.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/177 "2015-05-13T18:07:55Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> I kind of do, but that’s not why I’m here.

Interesting. Can I ask why you think that he reflects badly on me?

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/178 "2015-05-13T18:13:56Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Interesting. Can I ask why you think that he reflects badly on me?

It was a joke. I do think he represents Patriots fans though. I’ve had a lot of fun reading the comments sections of Boston sports articles, and they’re all as crazy-desperate as this douchebag.

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/179 "2015-05-13T18:34:55Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> It was a joke. I do think he represents Patriots fans though. I’ve had a lot of fun reading the comments sections of Boston sports articles, and they’re all as crazy-desperate as this douchebag.

OK then. I would hope that to at least some degree I’ve represented a counterpoint to the crazy-desperate douchebag contingent.

In general, internet commenters are a pretty self-selected group. The douchebags always stand out. The people agreeing with the reports are mostly just going to shrug and move on with their lives. I just happen to have some free time now that the semester is over.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-select-sdmb-cheatriots-defenders/719426/180 "2015-05-13T18:44:42Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> OK then. I would hope that to at least some degree I’ve represented a counterpoint to the crazy-desperate douchebag contingent.
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> In general, internet commenters are a pretty self-selected group. The douchebags always stand out. The people agreeing with the reports are mostly just going to shrug and move on with their lives. I just happen to have some free time now that the semester is over.

When deflategate first broke, I was pleasantly surprised to see internet commenters express a sense of say-it-ain’t-so-Joe disappointment and a sense of things being tarnished. In short order though, they all seemed to buy into a homer-driven model that the league and everyone else were just out to get the Pats. That’s been nearly exclusively what I’ve seen since.

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