# To the animal scum who killed three doctors in Yemen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 30, 2002, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710 "2002-12-30T18:01:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/21 "2002-12-30T20:44:48Z")

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You are disingenuous. It was a snide remark and a potshot at the Gulf War and the perpetrators thereof.

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> Oh, yes SIR!

“Yes Ma’am”.

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**Author:** ![Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rider)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/22 "2002-12-30T20:47:39Z")

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“Do you believe that the Gulf War is the cause?”

I don’t know, and didn’t claim to. i just suggested the gulf war as i was asked to define what I meant by a “few years”. I was asking…not telling. It’s just the defensively gratuitous grandstanders who jumped on any sign of a hint that the USA is anything but blame free who are unable to engage in rational conversation without being offensive.

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**Author:** ![Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rider)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/23 "2002-12-30T20:48:47Z")

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“You are disingenuous. It was a snide remark and a potshot at the Gulf War and the perpetrators thereof.”

So the USA perpetrated the Gulf War?

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**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/24 "2002-12-30T21:04:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rider \*  
> \*\*“Do you believe that the Gulf War is the cause?”
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> I don’t know, and didn’t claim to. i just suggested the gulf war as i was asked to define what I meant by a “few years”. I was asking…not telling.\*\*

No, you were _insinuating_, and now you’re _weaselling_.

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**Author:** ![The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b782af/32.png) [@The\_Wrong\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Wrong_Girl)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/25 "2002-12-30T21:07:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rider \*  
> \*\*It’s just the defensively gratuitous grandstanders who jumped on any sign of a hint that the USA is anything but blame free who are unable to engage in rational conversation without being offensive. \*\*

Can you show me where someone said the US was blame-free? I must have missed that part.

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**Author:** ![Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rider)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/26 "2002-12-30T21:09:40Z")

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“No, you were insinuating, and now you’re weaselling.”

You’re so expressive with those italics. Does it help you get your point across? Jeez, just think for a while, that was all I was saying.

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**Author:** ![Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rider)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/27 "2002-12-30T21:12:03Z")

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Ok, I obviously hit a nerve here, and didn’t mean to hijack this thread. Everyone can get back to venting against the invisible foe instead of me now.

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**Author:** ![FordPrefect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@FordPrefect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FordPrefect)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/28 "2002-12-30T21:18:03Z")

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How bout the fact (according to Karen Armstrong, “The Battle for God”) that religious fundamentalism is a relatively new breed of religion. Extremism, as I understand it is a violent form of fundamentalism and as such is also relatively new.

That isn’t to say that extreme acts have not been committed in the past by non-extremists/non-fundamentalists, but the brand “Fundamentalism” is new…

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**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/29 "2002-12-30T21:27:22Z")

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Oh, East is East  
And West is West  
And never the twain shall meet…

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**Author:** ![Xploder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a183cd/32.png) [@Xploder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xploder)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/30 "2002-12-30T21:32:17Z")

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Although I really hate to say it, nothing that happens in the Middle East/North Africa region surprises me anymore. I rarely buy a paper because I KNOW that I’ll see some article about people being killed for no reason.

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**Author:** ![Rockford](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ac8455/32.png) [@Rockford](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rockford)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/31 "2002-12-30T21:33:49Z")

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> Rider–  
> So the USA perpetrated the Gulf War?

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Yes. Iraq did invade Kuwait first, but it’s not as if the U.S. stepped in to protect Kuwait out of the goodness of their hearts. Kuwait was already a repressive regime somewhat similar to that of Iraq, except unlike Iraq it cooperated with the U.S. If it wasn’t for their oil interests there, the U.S. probably could have cared less what happened.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/32 "2002-12-30T22:19:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rider \*  
> \*\*So the USA perpetrated the Gulf War? \*\*

Gee, ya know, it’s funny how often when I see someone take snide potshots at the Gulf War, I also see them hold the U.S. responsible for it.

Not Kuwait.  
Not Iraq.  
Not Saudi Arabia.  
Not the UN.

The U.S.

Are you different?

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**Author:** ![sailor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@sailor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sailor)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/33 "2002-12-30T23:08:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Spavined Gelding \*  
> \*\*Oh, East is East  
> And West is West  
> And never the twain shall meet… \*\*

Two remarks: (1) There is the Far East and there’s the Middle East, very different from each other and (2) this verse is almost always misquoted and misconstrued to mean the exact opposite of the intended original meaning. Read the [The Ballad Of East And West](http://www.online-literature.com/kipling/847/) and see that immediately after the quoted lines it says

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> there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,  
> When two strong men stand face to face,  
> tho’ they come from the ends of the earth!

In fact, it is a story of how East and West can and do meet.

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**Author:** ![Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rider)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/34 "2002-12-30T23:22:23Z")

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“Gee, ya know, it’s funny how often when I see someone take snide potshots at the Gulf War, I also see them hold the U.S. responsible for it.”

I appreaciate that folksyangle with the “gee. ya know” etc is designed to make you feel more justified, but I’m just gonna have to defer to Rockford as explaining my position better than I did.

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**Author:** ![Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rider)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/35 "2002-12-30T23:24:23Z")

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Also, I was just noting that you yourself DDG, said that the USA was the perp.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/36 "2002-12-30T23:52:19Z")

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No, I didn’t.

Putz.

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**Author:** ![Rider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dc4da7/32.png) [@Rider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rider)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2002, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/37 "2002-12-30T23:56:40Z")

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DDG, you said “It was a snide remark and a potshot at the Gulf War and the perpetrators thereof.”

Can you explain? I’ll refrain from offering any offensive abuse a la yourself, as that would just me down to your level of debate.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/38 "2002-12-31T00:09:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rider \*  
> Can you explain? I’ll refrain from offering any offensive abuse a la yourself, as that would just me down to your level of debate.

This is the Pit. You don’t have to refrain, you idiotic ignorant pigdog who doesn’t know how to quote properly.

You’re a rube, too. “Last few years”, pffft. Just because some events happened before you became an adult doesn’t mean they don’t count. fanaticism-inspired murders like this have been going on for quite some time. Your weaselly attempts to rationalize your short-sighted bullshit aren’t helping.

Putz.

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**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/39 "2002-12-31T00:22:47Z")

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Rider, you must learn that sounding insufferably condescending does _not_ make people want to support you.

And sarcasm, while not direct abuse, is still abuse. Try to avoid hypocrity, as well.

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**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2002, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-animal-scum-who-killed-three-doctors-in-yemen/145710/40 "2002-12-31T00:25:09Z")

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This thread has more putz than a midget at the Master’s Tournament.

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