# To the assholes who tried to set fire to a Democratic HQ... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 5, 2004, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699 "2004-10-05T18:47:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/1 "2004-10-05T18:47:04Z")
May you rot in hell too. I don’t want this buried in a thread about the unfortunate incident that Mr. Moto just posted about. Democrats have been targets too. I rounded up these in just a few minutes, but vandalism has been happening all over the country, ranging from signs being defaced and stolen, to fires being set. > [@](#): > > Lafeyette, Louisiana > > Vandals target local Democrats’ office for second time > [http://www.theadvertiser.com/news/html/2B5BBF65-30EC-409C-9F0B-1AF1F921B32C.shtml](http://www.theadvertiser.com/news/html/2B5BBF65-30EC-409C-9F0B-1AF1F921B32C.shtml) > > LAFAYETTE — Vandals set fire to signs and wrote pro-President Bush messages on the front of Lafayette’s Democratic Party Headquarters, the second time the office was hit by vandals. > > The remnants of a small fire fueled with John Kerry/John Edwards campaign signs remained on the front steps of the headquarters at 310 Buchanan St. in downtown Lafayette on Thursday morning. > > A mixture of ash from the fire and what appeared to be motor oil was used to smear “4+ GWB” across the front windows and “W” on the headquarters’ door. > > … > > The situation could have been even more dangerous because the fire was set at the front door of the headquarters, Thompson said. > > “Thank God we didn’t have anybody here this morning,” she said. “They were trying to harm us.” It’s the second time that office has been targeted: > [@](#): > > Skinner said it’s the second time this location has been vandalized. Recently, campaign signs were torn up and thrown into the street in front of the office and a bottle was shattered on the sidewalk in front of the door. ========================== Here’s more: > [@](#): > > State College, Pennsylvania > > Vandals strike county Democratic headquarters > [http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/9561730.htm](http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/9561730.htm) > > STATE COLLEGE - Centre County Democratic Headquarters was vandalized late Tuesday when someone smashed the thick, tempered glass in the building’s storefront window, causing about $3,000 worth of damage. > > According to State College police Cpl. Mark Argiro, witnesses in the 300 block of Calder Way heard the window break and saw a white Ford Tempo carrying three men leaving the area. ========================== > [@](#): > > Barberton, Ohio > [http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-11-political-graffiti\_x.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-08-11-political-graffiti_x.htm) > > Kerry office vandalized with ‘Bush rules’ message > BARBERTON, Ohio (AP) — Graffiti that said “Bush Rules” and “W” was found on the front window of a Democratic Party office coordinating campaigning for presidential candidate John Kerry, police said Wednesday. ========================== > [@](#): > > Muskegon, Michigan > [http://www.mlive.com/news/muchronicle/index.ssf?/base/news-3/109413643335820.xml](http://www.mlive.com/news/muchronicle/index.ssf?/base/news-3/109413643335820.xml) > > Kerry HQ vandalized > Thursday, September 02, 2004 > CHRONICLE NEWS SERVICE > Someone tossed a cement chunk through a storefront window of the local John Kerry presidential campaign headquarters in an act of vandalism a Democratic official said appeared to be politically motivated. > > “They could have gone through any number of storefronts, so I don’t think it was an accident,” said John Otterbacher, Kent County spokesman for the Democratic presidential ticket. ========================== > [@](#): > > Tucson, AZ > [http://kold.com/global/story.asp?s=2342679&ClientType=Printable](http://kold.com/global/story.asp?s=2342679&ClientType=Printable) > > Traitor. The word is spelled out in big, black letters. It’s spray-painted over Kerry-Edwards campaign signs in neighborhoods all over town. > > “I get frustrated. I’m angry that people would do that. It’s my first amendment right. It’s breaking the law,” said Laura Burge, a Kerry campaign volunteer whose sign was vandalized. “No matter how you’re voting, what you believe, you need to be able to say what you think.” > > Across town, Salle Hunter says someone stole her Kerry sign. She put it in front of her business along Grant Rd. Salle filed a police report when she noticed it was gone. > > “It really toasted my biscuits,” Hunter said. “I really feel violated that someone would come along and take my sign.” > > The Democratic Party says it’s gotten dozens of calls from homeowners with vandalized or stolen signs. ========================== Also in Tucson > [@](#): > > Soldier dies… > [http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=local&story\_id=092804\_unruhonlineonline](http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=local&story_id=092804_unruhonlineonline) > > The attacks of Sept. 11 propelled Robert Unruh into military service, where he followed his father’s, grandfather’s and great-grand-father’s legacy of combat service. > > Unruh, a 25-year-old Army specialist, was killed west of Baghdad on Saturday when his engineering unit fell under attack by enemy forces. > > His parents, Karen Unruh-Wahrer and Dennis Wahrer, remember their son as a quiet kid who was protective of his family and loyal to his country. === And his mother follows before he’s even buried. > [@](#): > > Mother of soldier killed in Iraq collapses, dies > [http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/05/soldiers.mother.ap/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/05/soldiers.mother.ap/index.html) > > ‘Her grief was so intense,’ hospital worker says > > Tuesday, October 5, 2004 Posted: 12:28 PM EDT (1628 GMT) > > TUCSON, Arizona (AP) – A 45-year-old woman collapsed and died days after learning her son had been killed in Iraq, and just hours after seeing his body. > > Results of an autopsy were not immediately released, but friends of Karen Unruh-Wahrer said she couldn’t stop crying over losing her 25-year-old son, Army Spc. Robert Oliver Unruh, who was killed by enemy fire near Baghdad on September 25. > > “Her grief was so intense – it seemed it could have harmed her, could have caused a heart attack. Her husband described it as a broken heart,” said Cheryl Hamilton, manager of respiratory care services at University Medical Center, where Unruh-Wahrer worked as a respiratory therapist. > > Unruh, a combat engineer, had been in Iraq less than a month when he was shot during an attack on his unit. > > Several days after learning of his death, his mother had gone to the hospital complaining of chest pains, Hamilton said. She was feeling better the next day but saw her son’s body Saturday morning and collapsed that night in her kitchen. > > Her husband, Dennis Wahrer – also a respiratory therapist – and other family members performed CPR but Unruh-Wahrer was pronounced dead that night. > > Autopsy results won’t be released until relatives are notified, said Dr. Bruce Parks, Pima County chief medical examiner. There was no immediate response to a call to his office before business hours Tuesday. > > Robert Unruh will be buried Friday at the Southern Arizona Veterans’ Memorial Cemetery. His mother’s body will accompany her son’s in the procession to the cemetery. ========================== And of course, don’t forget the man who set a Marine van and himself on fire after learning that his son was killed in Iraq > [@](#): > > Father of Marine killed in combat sets himself and gov’t. van on fire > [http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/082504\_APnat\_marine.html](http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/082504_APnat_marine.html) > > (8/25/04 - HOLLYWOOD, FL) — A man who had just been told his Marine son had been killed in combat in Iraq set fire to a Marine Corps van and suffered severe burns Wednesday, police said. > > Three Marines went to a house in Hollywood to tell the parents of Pfc. Alexander Arredondo that the 20-year-old died Tuesday in Najaf, according to police and television reports. > Carlos Arredondo, 44, then walked out of the house with a torch and what appeared to be a container of flammable liquid, reports said. > > Police said that despite the Marines’ efforts to stop him, Arredondo set the van and himself on fire. The Marines pulled him out of the burning vehicle and put out the flames, police said. > > Arredondo was listed in serious condition at a Miami hospital. > > “We have not seen this type of reaction. Every reaction is negative, it’s the loss of a loved one,” said Marines spokesman Maj. Scott Mack. “I don’t think any of us are qualified to go into the depths of the mind and truly anticipate how somebody is going to react.” The lies of this pResident and his minions are almost too much to bear for me, who has nothing at stake. I can’t imagine what it’s like to lose a loved-one in this war. I had others, such as League City, Texas [http://www.galvnews.com/story.lasso?wcd=23794](http://www.galvnews.com/story.lasso?wcd=23794), but the article has been sent to the archives. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/2 "2004-10-05T18:51:04Z")
I think the point (IMO) could have been addressed in the other thread. There are plenty of assholes on both sides, and it’s a shame that they seem to be taking over. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/3 "2004-10-05T19:06:46Z")
Just to add another to the list, the Montgomery County PA Democratic offices had their [laptops stolen last month.](http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/9649866.htm?1c) This was probably a plain old theft with no political motivations, but it seems strange that $50 left on a desk was untouched. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/4 "2004-10-05T19:15:08Z")
Agreed with **World Eater**. Are we so partisan now we have to have tit-for-tat Pit threads on electoral violence? Also, not to dismiss the incidents reported so far, but are there any stats showing that the number of such incidents really is up from previous national elections? Lastly, seems to me a simple public statement from both candidates that any election-related violence is totally unacceptable would go a long way toward resolving the problem. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/5 "2004-10-05T19:21:09Z")
> [@](#): > > Agreed with World Eater. Are we so partisan now we have to have tit-for-tat Pit threads on electoral violence? I agree. This thread is pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/6 "2004-10-05T19:31:53Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Agreed with **World Eater**. Are we so partisan now we have to have tit-for-tat Pit threads on electoral violence? The answer, apparently, is yes. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/7 "2004-10-05T19:33:39Z")
Hey **Equipose** , maybe you could ask to shut this down, and we can take it to the other thread? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/8 "2004-10-05T20:17:13Z")
I opined in the other thread that merely finger pointing wasn’t a terribly productive way to handle this problem. To that end, I denounced anti-Kerry and anti-Democratic vandalism, theft, and violence as well. I think the real problem here is blind anger, which seems to be at a fever pitch. Some politicians on both sides have decided they have something to gain from ramped-up emotions. I think this game will leave a lot of losers at the end. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/9 "2004-10-05T20:25:16Z")
Hey Equipoise, could you tell me what the point of including the last three articles was? The other articles were on topic considering the subject of your OP but those seemed thrown in just to provide some gratuitous antiwar ranting. Why are they included? They have sweet fuck all to do with what you said was the subject of your thread. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/10 "2004-10-05T20:31:00Z")
Fire. pfffft. Dems got guns! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/11 "2004-10-05T21:58:55Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > Fire. pfffft. Dems got guns! Yes, but the Dems have also nominated Frankenstein’s Monster as their presidential candidate, and we all know his views on fire. This was, indeed, a low-blow, even for an election year. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/12 "2004-10-05T22:31:20Z")
I think it’s ridiculous to ask to have this thread shut down. It’s as baldly partisan as the attacks. If the title of the first thread were more balanced, this thread wouldn’t have been necessary. Why don’t you guys ask the other OP to have his title changed to “Partisan attacks on campaign offices” rather than the sympathy-for-the-devil title it currently sports? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/13 "2004-10-06T15:16:08Z")
Sorry. Maybe I was reacting to the fact that the attacks on the Republican storefronts and events were marked by _gunfire_. That seems to be a bit of an escalation from the usual vandalism and theft. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/14 "2004-10-06T16:04:50Z")
Same sentiments for me as in the other thread. This is not acceptable. Disagree all you want. The instant it turns to violence, you are wrong. No matter which side you are on. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/15 "2004-10-06T16:19:20Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > I think it’s ridiculous to ask to have this thread shut down. It’s as baldly partisan as the attacks. > > If the title of the first thread were more balanced, this thread wouldn’t have been necessary. > > Why don’t you guys ask the other OP to have his title changed to “Partisan attacks on campaign offices” rather than the sympathy-for-the-devil title it currently sports? I don’t see anyone except me suggesting that this thread be shut down. This is a waste, anything in here can be addressed in the other thread. The boards may not remain faster if we post an opposing viewpoint thread for every thread. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/16 "2004-10-06T20:40:11Z")
> [@World Eater](#): > > The boards may not remain faster if we post an opposing viewpoint thread for every thread. Yeah, and as soon as that becomes the real problem, you altruist you, let us know. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/17 "2004-10-06T22:27:51Z")
> [@Weirddave](#): > > Hey Equipoise, could you tell me what the point of including the last three articles was? The other articles were on topic considering the subject of your OP but those seemed thrown in just to provide some gratuitous antiwar ranting. Why are they included? They have sweet fuck all to do with what you said was the subject of your thread. I think they do have sweet fuck all to do with the subject. It’s a REASON why, if Democrats are cracking, these things are happening. What the FUCK do the Republicans have to be angry about? They run everything, they own everything, they can steal and lie and do whatever the fuck they want with nary a frown from anyone but Michael Moore and some lefties. I do NOT condone violence. I’m the most passive person and easy-going, friendly person imaginable, but that person is buried now, because of what Bushco has done, is doing, and is getting away with, and will get away with. It’s maddening. I do NOT condone violence. I condemn it. At the same time, I understand it. I ask again, what do Republicans have to be angry about? Why is there even ONE instance of vandalism or violence toward Democrats? Fear? Fear that “people” like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage and Anne Coulter drum into half-wits and pea-brains? What the fuck? Fear of WHAT? More war? More death? More fascism? Calling US brownshirts?? Jesus. Some taxes will be raised and some social programs for poor kids will use up some of it. Whoop-de-do. That’s worthy of such hatred? Fear of gays? Fear of abortion? Hey, gay marriage never killed anyone, and abortion rates have gone down, from what I hear. Good birth control and sex ed classes and they’d go down more. Even the most liberal president isn’t going to go anywhere near the edge of what the hatemongers on talk radio squawk on about. Republicans seem to embody fear, hatred, bigotry, racism, sexism, super-selfishness, greed and petulance. Democrats seem to embody hope, caring, giving, selflessness, tolerance. YES OF COURSE there are exceptions and I am sure I’ll be showered with them, but those are the core philosophies to me. Yes there are greedy Democrats and tolerant Republicans. Yes there are caring Republicans and bigoted Democrats. But as a whole, as a world-view and mindset, I see Democrats having good hearts. We’re angry, but we’re angry for concrete, verifiable deeds done by this administration that have dragged this country into the mud. We have a _right_ and a **reason** to be angry. We have several hundred reasons to be angry. To have our concerns blown off, simply because we can’t be all smiles and happy-faced about the problems with the [environment](http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1120-01.htm), [women’s rights](http://www.truthaboutgeorge.com/women/), the [economy](http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/economy.htm), [education](http://www.prospect.org/print/V15/2/schrag-p.html), [civil rights](http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0434/indiana.php), [health care](http://www.fightforthefuture.org/bushrecord/bush_healthcare.cfm) (especially [children’s health](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1437&e=1&u=/nm/20040929/hl_nm/campaign_pediatricians_dc&sid=95864961)), and a [thousand other things](http://www.thousandreasons.org/), not to mention all the [people](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq_casualties) [his](http://www.antiwar.com/eland/?articleid=3709) [bogus](http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0625-08.htm) [war](http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm) [has](http://www.iraqbodycount.net/) [killed](http://www.antiwar.com/casualties/) [and](http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/) [wounded](http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/gallery.htm) [in](http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04262/381101.stm) [Iraq](http://civilians.info/iraq/), among other things, is hard to take. People are dying, and the right is laughing at us, and people like you are pooh-pooing our fears, concerns, anguish. It’s hard to bear, and sometimes, something’s gotta give. Is this better? 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂 [Baghdad Bombings Kill 35 Children](http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/93-09302004-374578.html) Happy happy! [U.S.-Iraqi Forces Launch Major Offensive](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041006/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&cid=540&ncid=716) Shiny shiny! [A Daily Look at U.S. Iraq Military Deaths](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041005/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_us_deaths&cid=540&ncid=1473) (As of Tuesday, Oct. 5, 2004, 1,061 members of the U.S. military have died) Grins and giggles [Iraq Survey Group to concede defeat in search for WMD](http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=569239) It’s all been for nothing! Wheeee!!! So what? Who cares? Yuck it up! 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂 And then this story is dismissed with the wave of a hand. Mother of soldier killed in Iraq collapses, dies [http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/05/soldiers.mother.ap/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/05/soldiers.mother.ap/index.html) Mustn’t get angry, mustn’t get sad. Happy faces, that’s the ticket! Fuck. ☹ :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/18 "2004-10-06T22:33:22Z")
And before someone gleefully points it out, I do realize that calling people “people,” “half-wits” and “pea-brains” does not jive with caring, tolerance and peacefulness but I’m willing to bear that burden. Limbaugh, Savage, Coulter, Hannity and the morons who keep them in business don’t earn or deserve my respect. Not that they’d care. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/19 "2004-10-06T22:59:21Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I do NOT condone violence. I condemn it. At the same time, I understand it. Understand violence by Democrats, but not by Republicans? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699/20 "2004-10-06T23:17:23Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Understand violence by Democrats, but not by Republicans? Well if YOU understand what the Republicans are so angry about, please let me know. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-assholes-who-tried-to-set-fire-to-a-democratic-hq/267699.md?page=2)