# To the boys in my dorm: **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 22, 2006, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465 "2006-03-22T18:48:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/121 "2006-03-23T23:26:33Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Spoken like a true narc… Narc? dude, the pothead from my 1989, 9th grade high school class just called. he wants his insult back. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/122 "2006-03-23T23:43:24Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > What makes this your business is not only because they’re your friends, but it’s very fucking illegal. Illegal = everyone’s business. Tell, the R.A., tell the dorm supervisor, tell the dean of students, and tell the police what’s going on… :rolleyes: In the early 70’s, when I was about 8 or so, I remember my parents doing some pretty illegal shit. They were paranoid about it too. They’d only do it late in the evening when I went to bed and they would draw the blinds and made sure to keep it very quiet. Sometimes they’d have a couple of friends over but they were very trusted and close friends. Know what it was? The were listening to a broadcast of “Voice of America” on shortwave radio in the good old CCCP. People went to jail for that kind of stuff. The gulag too. Neighbours were encouraged to squeel on subversive “illegal” activity. My parents were a threat and danger to society and the state. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2006, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/123 "2006-03-23T23:46:04Z")
> [@Greathouse](#): > > You seem to be way to worked up over this. Just go smoke a bowl and relax > [@control-z](#): > > Dude, that’s your answer for everything. > > All I need is a beer. Girls, girls… you’re both pretty. Good lord, has this really devolved into a “discussion” of whether pot smokers or beer drinkers are morally superior? Also, it \*\*is \*\* a college dorm. Is anyone really convinced that the cops are going to raid the entire place, or that her roomates are going to set up a meth lab in there? A little less hysteria, people. Reefer Madness was not a documentary. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/124 "2006-03-24T00:00:50Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > :rolleyes: > > In the early 70’s, when I was about 8 or so, I remember my parents doing some pretty illegal shit. They were paranoid about it too. They’d only do it late in the evening when I went to bed and they would draw the blinds and made sure to keep it very quiet. Sometimes they’d have a couple of friends over but they were very trusted and close friends. > > Know what it was? > > The were listening to a broadcast of “Voice of America” on shortwave radio in the good old CCCP. People went to jail for that kind of stuff. The gulag too. > > Neighbours were encouraged to squeel on subversive “illegal” activity. > > My parents were a threat and danger to society and the state. So? The fact that some laws are unjust does not mean that all laws are unjust. Similarly, the fact that some illicit activities are harmless does not mean that all illicit activity is harmless. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/125 "2006-03-24T00:05:00Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > There’s no law that says you have to narc out friends who do things _you_ don’t like to do. Put away the tightie-whities and get a life. There’s no law that says she _shouldn’t_ narc them out, either. Your objection is both irrelevant and self-refuting. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/126 "2006-03-24T00:13:55Z")
Damn, when I was in college we couldn’t even afford decent alcohol, let alone drugs… ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/127 "2006-03-24T00:57:58Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > There’s no law that says she _shouldn’t_ narc them out, either. Your objection is both irrelevant and self-refuting. If she puts these guys in the penal system because they party too hardy and never call afterwards, they will not thank her. It’s not that she’s losing friends; it’s that she’s acquiring enemies. The days when cops took away your pot\* and elbowed you in the solar plexus are long since over. **monica** should look into mandatory sentencing laws. \*And then they went back to the station and smoked it up. You know they did, man. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/128 "2006-03-24T02:55:18Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > So? The fact that some laws are unjust does not mean that all laws are unjust. Fair enough. Show me the harm done in this case. Who’s the victim exactly? > [@JThunder](#): > > Similarly, the fact that some illicit activities are harmless does not mean that all illicit activity is harmless. Alcohol isn’t harmless. If these guys were abusing alcohol and not causing anyone any harm or putting people in danger (which, according to the OP they are not) nobody would be suggesting calling the cops on them. What is it about a little illegal substance that causes some people to become knee jerk alarmists and whistle blowers? Are we really becoming a nanny state? (FTR, I’m not now nor have ever been a drug user or abuser of any substance other than a little too much caffein on some days.) ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/129 "2006-03-24T03:39:45Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > Yeah, and when the OP gets caught up in a police sweep and faces charges along with all the criminals in her dorm, someone will be laughing. Yep, happens all the time. Some little old lady calls the cops and says, “there’s a large building with hundreds of college students living in it, coming and going at strange hours, sounding like they’re having sex, and possibly even smelling like drugs. Do you think it could be an opium den of some sorts?” Next thing you know, some detective is putting dozens of tiny red pens onto a map and being like, “holy crap!” Next thing you know, hundreds of local cops, ATF, FBI, and Colorado State Patrol agents surround the place and bust down the doors, turning over the entire place and finding, holy-shit, drugs on college freshmen! Who would have know that these houses of moral depravity and illegal activity could penetrate _our community?_ The entire dorm goes to prison. Yep, just like that. I swear to god, have you even been an undergrad? If so, how long ago was that? And where? Liberty University? ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/130 "2006-03-24T04:29:49Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Alcohol isn’t harmless. If these guys were abusing alcohol and not causing anyone any harm or putting people in danger (which, according to the OP they are not) nobody would be suggesting calling the cops on them. > > What is it about a little illegal substance that causes some people to become knee jerk alarmists and whistle blowers? Are we really becoming a nanny state? Well, alcohol is an illegal substance for these guys… ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/131 "2006-03-24T04:37:35Z")
**threemae** , I almost choked on my linguine with clam sauce. That was funny. Your post, I mean, not my almost choking. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/132 "2006-03-24T10:34:22Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > There’s no law that says she _shouldn’t_ narc them out, either. Your objection is both irrelevant and self-refuting. The statement I was responding to was “If I were in monica’s shoes, you’re damn right I would report them. Possessing and using drugs like cocaine is illegal. Just because you don’t agree with the law doesn’t mean you can ignore it.” Your statement is asinine. You wanna be a self-righteous tattletale, have at it. The unspoken law of “don’t be an asshole” trumps your Reaganesque, Gladys-Kravitz-School-of-Buttinski-Law-Enforcement-Program any day of the week. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/133 "2006-03-24T12:38:52Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > The statement I was responding to was “If I were in monica’s shoes, you’re damn right I would report them. Possessing and using drugs like cocaine is illegal. Just because you don’t agree with the law doesn’t mean you can ignore it.” Your statement is asinine. You wanna be a self-righteous tattletale, have at it. The unspoken law of “don’t be an asshole” trumps your Reaganesque, Gladys-Kravitz-School-of-Buttinski-Law-Enforcement-Program any day of the week. Well, Bricker probably knows this far better than any of us, but I did find [this](http://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles/jcs934.txt) : > [@](#): > > Obstruction of Justice – Intentionally > obstructing court or law enforcement efforts in the > administration of justice, acting in a way > calculated to lessen the authority or dignity of > the court, failing to obey the lawful order of a > court, and violating probation or parole, other > than technical violations that do not consist of > committing a crime or are not prosecuted as such. > It includes contempt, perjury, obstruction of > justice, bribery of witnesses, **failure to report a > crime**, and nonviolent resistance of arrest. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/134 "2006-03-24T12:43:05Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > Well, Bricker probably knows this far better than any of us, but I did find [this](http://www.ncjrs.gov/txtfiles/jcs934.txt) : That’s just what we need. Millions of citizens behind bars for victimless crimes, and the country being run by a bunch of busybodies. Some people really need to get a hobby. I’ve got two words for you: Civil Disobedience. ---
**Author:** ![RTA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RTA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTA)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/135 "2006-03-24T14:25:02Z")
I would definitely prefer a nation chock full of dope smokers and coke snorters who keep to themselves, over a nation of people spying on each other and researching law merely to identify what opportunities exist to rat out the people around them for crimes against the state. If you think that is the path to true security and freedom, please leave the USA at once. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/136 "2006-03-24T14:32:00Z")
> [@RTA](#): > > I would definitely prefer a nation chock full of dope smokers and coke snorters who keep to themselves, over a nation of people spying on each other and researching law merely to identify what opportunities exist to rat out the people around them for crimes against the state. > > If you think that is the path to true security and freedom, please leave the USA at once. Well fuckin’ told. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/137 "2006-03-24T14:48:26Z")
> [@RTA](#): > > I would definitely prefer a nation chock full of dope smokers and coke snorters **who keep to themselves** , over a nation of people spying on each other and researching law merely to identify what opportunities exist to rat out the people around them for crimes against the state. > > If you think that is the path to true security and freedom, please leave the USA at once. Just wanted to bold the operative words. Of course, that applies to Satan worship, sexual relations with the farm animals, and/or watching Benny Hill marathons. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/138 "2006-03-24T16:11:56Z")
> [@RTA](#): > > I would definitely prefer a nation chock full of dope smokers and coke snorters who keep to themselves, over a nation of people spying on each other and researching law merely to identify what opportunities exist to rat out the people around them for crimes against the state. > > If you think that is the path to true security and freedom, please leave the USA at once. Can I get an Amen?! 🙂 - and I’d ask that they leave the human race, not just the USA. ---
**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/139 "2006-03-24T16:38:09Z")
> [@RTA](#): > > I would definitely prefer a nation chock full of dope smokers and coke snorters who keep to themselves, over a nation of people spying on each other and researching law merely to identify what opportunities exist to rat out the people around them for crimes against the state. > > If you think that is the path to true security and freedom, please leave the USA at once. Maybe if you want to spend your whole life stoned or high, YOU should leave the USA and quit dragging the rest of society down! ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2006, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-boys-in-my-dorm/349465/140 "2006-03-24T16:41:58Z")
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