# To the Fox announcers and Randy Moss haters everywhere...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 10, 2005, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968 "2005-01-10T01:15:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/81 "2005-01-11T02:48:38Z")

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Hamlet, we’ve gone around and around on this issue. I love my team thick and thin, and you know that…but I’m not going to root for a shitty offensive coordinator coupled with a shitty offense. What am I supposed to do, start a thread bout the Mighty John Quinn? give me a break.

I watched every game this year beginning to end, got to see a game at soldier field and i put up with shit from packers, vikings and god forbid DETROIT fans from day one.

believe me I DO root FOR Chicago. I root against Favre for reasons that have jack shit to do with football. Just how I trashed Brian Urlacher for cheating on his wife and abandoning his daughter.

I’m tired of NFL player special treatment on every team.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/82 "2005-01-11T02:48:57Z")

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> [@jarbabyj](#):
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> That coupled with being the sorest winners and you’ve got a group of great folks. Keep in mind I don’t like the Vikings either.

I’m one of those who thinks the NFC playoffs are cute, like girls crowding outside the locker room door after a highschool football game, each hoping she’ll be the one lucky enough to be AFC’s bitch.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/83 "2005-01-11T02:51:10Z")

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> [@lno](#):
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> It sounds like you missed the game this past weekend. I heard that the Vikings beat the Packers pretty solidly, and that Favre threw a bunch of interceptions. You may want to look at a sports website or something to make sure, though.

Now you’re just being a retarded mole. I was talking about winning League titles. Reread the fucking post, jerk-off. :non-winking wally:

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/84 "2005-01-11T02:53:36Z")

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packer fan needs a wittle nap. He’s sad about his widdle team wosing.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/85 "2005-01-11T03:08:32Z")

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Every year when the Packers get eliminated from the playoffs, the fans always start talking about titles that were won in like the 30’s or something when there were like four teams and the players wore leather helmets.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/86 "2005-01-11T03:12:52Z")

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Well, now you’re being silly Dio. You know I love your allegience, but the Packers OWNED the league in the 90s.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/87 "2005-01-11T03:21:01Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Every year when the Packers get eliminated from the playoffs, the fans always start talking about titles that were won in like the 30’s or something when there were like four teams and the players wore leather helmets.

At least we’re still talking. I guarantee every Viking fan up here will stash the gear and talk about Twins spring training 2 hours after the next loss this year.

I’m taking about watching titles being won in the '30’s? Holy shit I’m old!

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/88 "2005-01-11T03:26:34Z")

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> [@jarbabyj](#):
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> Well, now you’re being silly Dio. You know I love your allegience, but the Packers OWNED the league in the 90s.

Let’s see… Dallas won 3 superbowls in the 90’s, Denver and San Francisco won 2 each. The other three victories went to Green Bay, Washington, and New York (N). So Green Bay, in actuality, is in a three-way tie for fourth place of “owning the league in the 90s.”

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/89 "2005-01-11T03:29:30Z")

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The Packers have won exactly one championship in the era of color television. To hear the fans talk, you’d think they were some kind of enduring dynasty.

**jarbabyj** , at least the Bears have won a Superbowl. Every year Vikings fans have to listen to “How many rings have YOU won?” from cheeseheads even if we beat them. The purple is 0 for 4 and even the 0 for 4 was a long time ago.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/90 "2005-01-11T03:33:23Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> **jarbabyj** , at least the Bears have won a Superbowl. Every year Vikings fans have to listen to “How many rings have YOU won?” from cheeseheads even if we beat them. The purple is 0 for 4 and even the 0 for 4 was a long time ago.

I can honestly say this is the first time I’ve seen a Viking fan bring up the SB record. Much respect to you for staying honest. I’ll find it hard to muster the strength to give you a lot of shit next Sunday night.

Hard, but not impossible. 😃

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**Author:** ![Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ec9cab/32.png) [@Ass\_For\_A\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ass_For_A_Hat)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/91 "2005-01-11T03:49:07Z")

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> [@jarbabyj](#):
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> …but the Packers OWNED the league in the 90s.

You’re joking, right? By any measure, the Pack had a nice decade. Two Super Bowl appearances and one win. They most assuredly did not OWN the decade. I realize that most Packer fans have drank too much paint thinner to have much memory left, so [this](http://pweb.jps.net/~fos/nfl/nfl90s.htm) should be a decent refresher.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/92 "2005-01-11T04:21:59Z")

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> [@jarbabyj](#):
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> And correct me if I’m wrong but I think Favre left the field without shaking anyone’s hand yesterday. Role model extraordinaire!

You’re wrong. He congratulated Tice after wading through a sea of purple to get to him.

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**Author:** ![BabaBooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dfb087/32.png) [@BabaBooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BabaBooey)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/93 "2005-01-11T04:35:13Z")

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0 for 4 in SBs? Awww, you poor babies. Try 0 for 0. :smack:

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/94 "2005-01-11T12:42:29Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Now you’re just being a retarded mole. I was talking about winning League titles. Reread the fucking post, jerk-off. :non-winking wally:

Oh, now you clarify yourself. I should have expected that the foam dripping from your lips shorted out your keyboard. Maybe had you said “Never seen your team win the Super Bowl” we would have known…

Put down the methamphetamine, **duffer**. Relax. I imagine you crouched over your keyboard in a trailer up on blocks somewhere rocking back and forth imagining legions of opponents who want your blood and who are struck to the core by your paranoid ravings.

Lighten up, sport. Have you tried yoga?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/95 "2005-01-11T13:05:32Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> I’m learning that Packer fans are the sorest losers I’ve ever seen.

Within a minute of **DTC** posting about the Viking win, I congratulated him and admitted the Packers sucked that game. [Cite.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296087&highlight=vikings) I also wished them luck next week. Expressing displeasure with Moss’ actions or negative fans does not make me a sore loser. **duffer** may be another story, but you didn’t aim this comment at him. But your graciousness in winning rates you right up there with him.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/96 "2005-01-11T13:49:45Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Within a minute of **DTC** posting about the Viking win, I congratulated him and admitted the Packers sucked that game. [Cite.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296087&highlight=vikings) I also wished them luck next week. Expressing displeasure with Moss’ actions or negative fans does not make me a sore loser. **duffer** may be another story, but you didn’t aim this comment at him. But your graciousness in winning rates you right up there with him.

I don’t play for the Vikings and didn’t win anything. I just don’t like moral high horses.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/97 "2005-01-11T13:56:10Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Within a minute of **DTC** posting about the Viking win, I congratulated him and admitted the Packers sucked that game.

I musty correct myself. Your congratulations notwithstanding, my comment to you was based on the “Packers fans are better than Vikings fans and Bears fans” post above, and not more whining about Moss’s TD celebration. I’m sorry if I misinterpreted it, but even more than I dislike people bitching about TD celebrations, it’s “We’re better fans than you.”

I don’t care what team you root for. Stop patting yourself on the back. It’s entertainment. Fandom of sports is morally neutral.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/98 "2005-01-11T14:53:26Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> I musty correct myself. Your congratulations notwithstanding, my comment to you was based on the “Packers fans are better than Vikings fans and Bears fans” post above, and not more whining about Moss’s TD celebration. I’m sorry if I misinterpreted it, but even more than I dislike people bitching about TD celebrations, it’s “We’re better fans than you.”

If I could find the post you were referring to where I said Packer fans are better than Viking fans or Bears fans, you might have some point. But I can’t and you didn’t. The only thing I said is that negative fandom, where you root against someone, and take joy at failure is pathetic. Packer fans do it to, case in point the Charles Martin travesty. Or the mooning. If Javon Walker had pulled the crap that Moss did, I’d think it just as immature and disrespectful. But I guess we just read what we want to read.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/99 "2005-01-11T15:56:57Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> If I could find the post you were referring to where I said Packer fans are better than Viking fans or Bears fans, you might have some point. But I can’t and you didn’t. The only thing I said is that negative fandom, where you root against someone, and take joy at failure is pathetic. Packer fans do it to, case in point the Charles Martin travesty. Or the mooning. If Javon Walker had pulled the crap that Moss did, I’d think it just as immature and disrespectful. But I guess we just read what we want to read.

So maybe YOU are just a better fan than specific people on this board. In any case, I’m just beside myself with awe at what a great fan you are.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2005, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-fox-announcers-and-randy-moss-haters-everywhere/283968/100 "2005-01-11T16:00:35Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> Think about the delicate women in Lambeau.

Oh? They brought some in from outside Wisconsin?

Typical Delicate Wisconsin Woman: “That Randy Moss can kiss my ass, don’tcha know. Hey, Randy! Fahck you!” Then she throws an empty pint of blackberry brandy at his head and tries to wriggle out of her snowmobile suit so she can moon him.

Sounds like Trunk hasn’t spent much time in Wisconsin.

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