# To the genius in my ecology class **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 3, 2004, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063 "2004-04-03T15:50:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/21 "2004-04-05T05:56:56Z")
> [@vasyachkin](#): > > i was only promoting discussion of it 😉 OKAY ??? > > but forumbot, everything IS better on weed, i dont know about pizza cuz i dont eat pizza but … > > featherlou has a point ☹ I’ve had varying experiences with pizza. It’s been enhanced by it sometimes, but I particularly remember once when I was so wonked out (pot and salvia) that I _could not_ eat my pizza after a little while because the crust started tasting like it was covered in sand. 😕 I guess the texture was a little sand-like, but I had the leftovers the next morning and there was nothing sandy-tasting about it. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/22 "2004-04-05T13:22:22Z")
Sounds pretty annoying, and I know right where you’re coming from. Mockery might be in order. Pothead: Hey do you like pizza? You: Uh, yeah? Pothead: It’s even better when you’re high. You: Oh, Jesus Christ. :rolleyes: What about pooping, is that better when you’re high? Doing laundry? Feeding the cat? Because I really want to know. **It really matters to me what you like doing stoned**. Go ahead, give me the complete list. I’m waiting. At least, that’s how Miss Manners would handle it. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![The\_Long\_Road](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5a626/32.png) [@The\_Long\_Road](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Long_Road)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/23 "2004-04-06T01:53:36Z")
> [@fetus](#): > > I’ve had varying experiences with pizza. It’s been enhanced by it sometimes, but I particularly remember once when I was so wonked out (pot and salvia) that I _could not_ eat my pizza after a little while because the crust started tasting like it was covered in sand. 😕 I guess the texture was a little sand-like, but I had the leftovers the next morning and there was nothing sandy-tasting about it. Piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiza. Covered with melting cheese which leaves long strings attached as you pull a slice away. OMG, I need a pizza!! Bastards! ---
**Author:** ![Poetgrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@Poetgrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poetgrrl)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/24 "2004-04-06T03:51:11Z")
There is no ‘safe’ amount of ecstasy you can take, and consumption can lead to permanently reduced levels of seratonin in the brain. It might be pleasant now, but 20 years down the line when you have depression-related problems you may not think of it so fondly. ---
**Author:** ![ForumBot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee59a6/32.png) [@ForumBot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ForumBot)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/25 "2004-04-06T05:47:58Z")
I noticed it took the self-proclaimed potheads a day or two longer to respond than the ‘pot is bad’ posters. Food for thought. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/26 "2004-04-06T06:21:45Z")
> [@ForumBot](#): > > I noticed it took the self-proclaimed potheads a day or two longer to respond than the ‘pot is bad’ posters. > > Food for thought. Not really. ---
**Author:** ![vasyachkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c5a1d2/32.png) [@vasyachkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vasyachkin)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/27 "2004-04-06T06:32:47Z")
> [@Poetgrrl](#): > > There is no ‘safe’ amount of ecstasy you can take, and consumption can lead to permanently reduced levels of seratonin in the brain. It might be pleasant now, but 20 years down the line when you have depression-related problems you may not think of it so fondly. well XTC is a powerful drug, must be used in moderation. reserved for only very special occasions. _I noticed it took the self-proclaimed potheads a day or two longer to respond than the ‘pot is bad’ posters._ :mad: what r u saying ? :mad: its funny to me how dimwitted fucktards are trying to analyze and dissect geniuses for doing something they are too fucking scared to do themselves. ( i am not talking about you forumbot, but some other posters ) you fools are only so sure that you know what wasting life means because you are the ones stupid enough to absorb propaganda without questioning it. we’re doing you a favor you don’t deserve by trying to un-do some of the brainwashing you undergo during your so-called development. and you think its funny. ---
**Author:** ![manx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@manx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manx)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/28 "2004-04-06T07:24:29Z")
I think **ForumBot** was being pretty lighthearted before. Short term memory loss is a often-atributed side affect of regular pot useage. > [@vasyachkin](#): > > its funny to me how dimwitted fucktards are trying to analyze and dissect geniuses for doing something they are too fucking scared to do themselves. ( i am not talking about you forumbot, but some other posters ) > > you fools are only so sure that you know what wasting life means because you are the ones stupid enough to absorb propaganda without questioning it. > > we’re doing you a favor you don’t deserve by trying to un-do some of the brainwashing you undergo during your so-called development. and you think its funny. Smoking pot does not make you a genius. It does not make you a crusader in the war against drug-related ignorance. And how does _your_ pot-smoking liberate _me_ from the shackles of anti-drug propaganda? And if you’re doing us a favour, why are you being so rude? ---
**Author:** ![Eternal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@Eternal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eternal)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/29 "2004-04-06T08:21:22Z")
I agree with the person who said mock him. Insult him so he’ll realize there’s nothing special about it and there’s nothing special about him goddam it. And if you’re worried that he’s ruining his future, don’t be! Cause who cares about potheads? Just potheads, and they suck. ---
**Author:** ![Poetgrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@Poetgrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poetgrrl)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/30 "2004-04-06T13:44:35Z")
> [@vasyachkin](#): > > well XTC is a powerful drug, must be used in moderation. reserved for only very special occasions. What I am saying is that it is the kind of thing where one dose could cause noticible problems later on. I make no distinction between people who get high or get drunk, because either way its taking your brain out to the playground for a couple of hours. But any drug which can cause significant permanent damage might want to be re-evaluated. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/31 "2004-04-06T16:29:28Z")
You know, I think what we all need to do right now is take a moment, sit down, and properly thank \*\*vasyachkin[/]. Thank you. For your tireless efforts to free the minds of us squares, one bowl at a time. For your untiring crusade to liberate us from our bourgeous predjudices, man. Like, if only George Bush would, like, spark up every now and then, y’know? Man, that would be, like, awesome. Once again, never let it be said that vasyachkin was not thanked for his efforts. Thank you, young man. God bless you, and God bless America. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2004, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/32 "2004-04-06T19:03:16Z")
I’d cut the kid in the OP a little slack, myself. He’s just out of high school, probably just out of his parent’s house: smoking pot used to be a big deal because he had to hide it from his parents/teachers/etc. Now he’s in college, it’s not a big deal anymore: no one cares if he’s smoking pot. So, he overcompensates, and won’t shut up about it, because smoking pot is still a big deal in his head, and he hasn’t twigged to the idea that no one else is as manic about it as he is. He’s like a gay kid who just came out of the closet, and is acting way too gay. Once he gets used to no one caring, he’ll tone it down. ---
**Author:** ![vasyachkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c5a1d2/32.png) [@vasyachkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vasyachkin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/33 "2004-04-07T03:59:29Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > You know, I think what we all need to do right now is take a moment, sit down, and properly thank \*\*vasyachkin[/]. > > Thank you. For your tireless efforts to free the minds of us squares, one bowl at a time. you think you know me silly ? i never said that i am even a regular smoker ( though it would not matter if i was ). you can take my word for it i do not care about liberating you from your own idiocy, as far as i am concerned you can all rot. as for your comments about Bush, isn’t he already a crackhead? anyway thats not what makes him a retard - being a retard does. and Bush is not even that stupid compared to you rejects who defend him. i also dont care what you think about my mental capacity. i have more of it than you would know what to do with. i am not going to ask you to believe that, i don’t care if you do. i smoke weed once in a while because its not as detrimental to my intelligence as talking to people like you. ---
**Author:** ![vasyachkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c5a1d2/32.png) [@vasyachkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vasyachkin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/34 "2004-04-07T04:25:16Z")
> [@Poetgrrl](#): > > What I am saying is that it is the kind of thing where one dose could cause noticible problems later on. I make no distinction between people who get high or get drunk, because either way its taking your brain out to the playground for a couple of hours. But any drug which can cause significant permanent damage might want to be re-evaluated. i dont care. there is a dichotomy in the mind of a bigot. if its legal its ok, and vice versa. case in point: steroids versus prohormones. SAME SHIT, i used both. but prohormones are legal. so everybody i talked to was saying it cannot be that bad for you if its legal, HA ! its AT LEAST AS BAD for you. prohormones have been developed from steroids to pass through a loophole in legislation. they havent been made better for you body - they’ve been made worse. did ephedra get worse for your body now that it became illegal ? i dont think so. will the prohormones get worse with the upcoming prohormone ban ? i dont think so. are steroids evil because some rejects decided to ban them about a decade ago ? extacy too was legal and even used to treat mental illnesses. why don’t you take it upon yourself to fight something legal, like tobacco ? you don’t wanna do that because you will be outnumbered and you will have to reason with the bigots - something they’re not too good at. so you want to attack something that is already under fire, like X. why not crusade against french fries ? why doesnt anybody CARE about that ? i would not eat at McDonalds if you PAID me to eat there. but its legal so it can’t be bad for you right ? why dont you show me some studies that show how a single dose of XTC messed somebody up ? i will give you a good read on XTC if you want with a shitload of references the way you guys like it : [http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/magmain.php?issueID=14&pageID=140](http://magazine.mindandmuscle.net/magmain.php?issueID=14&pageID=140) ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/35 "2004-04-07T04:39:13Z")
**vasyachkin** could be the poster boy for the Partnership for a Drug-Free America. After reading his posts, not only do I want to give up the weed, but I’m also leery about caffeine and aspirin. ---
**Author:** ![Poetgrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@Poetgrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poetgrrl)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/36 "2004-04-07T04:52:28Z")
[http://www.medic8.com/healthguide/articles/riskofrecreationdruguse.html](http://www.medic8.com/healthguide/articles/riskofrecreationdruguse.html) > [@](#): > > A brain haemorrhage can occur after a single dose of Ecstasy. A severe headache following the use of the drug could indicate the possibility of a brain haemorrahage. [http://psychcentral.com/library/sa\_factsec.htm](http://psychcentral.com/library/sa_factsec.htm) > [@](#): > > […]some people may be extremely sensitive to MDMA. For such people, even a single dose change personality or cause panic disorder and depression; at times a single dose can even cause death. ---
**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/37 "2004-04-07T05:50:53Z")
> [@Poetgrrl](#): > > [http://www.medic8.com/healthguide/articles/riskofrecreationdruguse.html](http://www.medic8.com/healthguide/articles/riskofrecreationdruguse.html) > > [http://psychcentral.com/library/sa\_factsec.htm](http://psychcentral.com/library/sa_factsec.htm) A [counterpoint](http://www.ecstasy.org/info/media.html). ---
**Author:** ![vasyachkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c5a1d2/32.png) [@vasyachkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vasyachkin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/38 "2004-04-07T06:16:33Z")
> [@Poetgrrl](#): > > A brain haemorrhage can occur after a single dose of Ecstasy. A severe headache following the use of the drug could indicate the possibility of a brain haemorrahage. you _can_ die from many things. you could be sitting in front of your PC right now and have a fucking plane crash into your building. so what ? should we all go live underground ? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/39 "2004-04-07T15:03:50Z")
> [@vasyachkin](#): > > you _can_ die from many things. you could be sitting in front of your PC right now and have a fucking plane crash into your building. so what ? should we all go live underground ? This is a spurious argument. You can die from many things, but most of us try to limit our exposure to hazards, rather than seeking them out. As for ecstacy causing panic disorders, take it from someone who has one - I wouldn’t wish this on my worst enemy. Trust me, this is something that you should try to avoid. ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2004, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063/40 "2004-04-07T15:28:36Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > This is a spurious argument. You can die from many things, but most of us try to limit our exposure to hazards, rather than seeking them out. That’s not true at all though, really. I know I get into a car every day, which exposes me to all kinds of hazards. People skydive (risking a big splat), and go horseback riding (risking paralysis), and play hours and hours of video games (risking carpal tunnel), and go boating (risking drowning) and on and on and on. Just because you don’t feel the benefits of any given activity are worth it when weighed against the potential hazards doesn’t mean someone else will feel the same way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-genius-in-my-ecology-class/238063.md?page=3)