# To the GOP: why are some still licking the boots of Rush Limbaugh?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 30, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688 "2009-01-30T05:21:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/61 "2009-01-30T22:21:12Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> As a Political Science major, I can assure you that my degree in no way qualifies me to run the country.

I didn’t say it did. Senators don’t run the country individually, and I never said it was the only qualification. However, _with all else being equal_, a Political Science degree will be more helpful than many others.

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**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/62 "2009-01-30T22:30:35Z")

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> [@Captain\_Carrot](#):
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> _with all else being equal_, a Political Science degree will be more helpful than many others.

Well, by that standard, preferring salads for lunch rather than burritos is also a relevant qualification, _all else being equal_. Can’t get much legislating done (especially filibustering ) when you’re preoccupied with your bowels.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/63 "2009-01-30T22:41:35Z")

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Did a political science major beat you up at the freshman mixer, or something? How exactly does having a degree in Political Science become a detriment to a career in Politics? Do you have an issue with doctors having medical degrees too?

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**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/64 "2009-01-30T22:46:39Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Did a political science major beat you up at the freshman mixer, or something? How exactly does having a degree in Political Science become a detriment to a career in Politics? Do you have an issue with doctors having medical degrees too?

Pay attention to thread. I am simply mocking Shayna because that’s her basis on why Franken is more qualified than Limbaugh. Of course, that was all before we learned why she always seemed to be talking with a mouthful. After that, I kinda feel bad for picking on her.

I’ve got nothing against PolySci majors myself. As you noted, they threw kick ass parties.

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**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/65 "2009-01-30T22:53:40Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> You think that’s bad? [Check this out](http://www.gallup.com/poll/114016/State-States-Political-Party-Affiliation.aspx).

That’s not a very convincing cite, to me.

Look at the big list at the end. Starting with West Virginia at +19 Dem, and going down to Virginia at +9 is the range of states with mixed Obama/McCain votes. From Kentucky at +13 down, there are a substantial number of states that supposedly lean 9-13% Democratic, yet voted for the Republican candidate.

Starting with +6 state Oklahoma, every state below that votes McCain.

This tells me that the “Party Advantage” that they claim to be calculating is a pretty bogus measure. It is skewed by an unknown number of points, probably between 6 and 19. Adjusting the numbers by 10 points, which is a fairly conservative adjustment based on the 2008 results, means that the “Democratic Advantage” is reduced to much less. The “most” Democratic state becomes +27, while the most Republican one becomes 33, and the 0-point is between 29 Democratic states, 21 Republican ones. Sure, it’s skewed toward the Democrats, but this is the results from an election they won.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/66 "2009-01-30T22:54:34Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> Pay attention to thread. I am simply mocking Shayna because that’s her basis on why Franken is more qualified than Limbaugh.

Franken: has a degree in Political Science from Harvard.  
Limbaugh: flunked all of his classes at Southeastern Missouri State.

You’re right, Limbaugh is much better qualified to be a US Senator.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/67 "2009-01-30T22:56:52Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#):
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> That’s not a very convincing cite, to me.
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> Look at the big list at the end. Starting with West Virginia at +19 Dem, and going down to Virginia at +9 is the range of states with mixed Obama/McCain votes. From Kentucky at +13 down, there are a substantial number of states that supposedly lean 9-13% Democratic, yet voted for the Republican candidate.
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> Starting with +6 state Oklahoma, every state below that votes McCain.

And Presidential voting is not the only measure of a state politically. Arkansas, Montana, and West Virginia all voted for McCain, and all three have two Democratic Senators. Pryor and Lincoln are pretty conservative, I grant you, but Tester and Rockefeller aren’t.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/68 "2009-01-31T00:02:52Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> I _wish_!

Hmm. That explains a lot.

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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/69 "2009-01-31T00:13:00Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Well. one of us is.So, when you brought up Rush flunking out, and compared it to Franken not flunking out, you were trolling?
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> Actually, that is a rhetorical question. I know perfectly well you weren’t trolling - you really are as stupid as you act.
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> Flunking out of school is relevant, until it’s your ox that is being Gore-d. I realize that, just like it will be won’t be relevant that Franken is a known and proven liar and fraud.
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> But your denials will be difficult to understand, with Obama’s cock in your mouth.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Shodan…

I love you…

😃

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/70 "2009-01-31T00:21:24Z")

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… he says, completely non-ironically whilst slobbering **Shodan** ’s knob.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/71 "2009-01-31T00:38:47Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> All any opponent would have to do is mention ‘Oxycotin’ a few times.
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> …
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> Seriously, why does anyone listen to Mr. “Addicts should be in prison - 'scuse me while I snort this”, anymore?

I’ve often wondered about that myself. The same also applies to Bill “Falafel” O’ Reilly. Those people have been caught doing and saying so many stupid and embarassing things so many times, they should’ve disappeared from the airwaves years ago. Yet, there they are, still with a loyal and credulous flock of listeners who devoutly tune in every weekday.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/72 "2009-01-31T00:46:21Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> … he says, completely non-ironically whilst slobbering **Shodan** ’s knob.

Who can blame? “Ox is Gore-d”! A wit that sparkles like day-old ginger ale.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/73 "2009-01-31T00:48:19Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> I’ve often wondered about that myself. The same also applies to Bill “Falafel” O’ Reilly. Those people have been caught doing and saying so many stupid and embarassing things so many times, they should’ve disappeared from the airwaves years ago. Yet, there they are, still with a loyal and credulous flock of listeners who devoutly tune in every weekday.

Bullies always seem to attract hoards of devoted weak willed toadies.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/74 "2009-01-31T00:59:34Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> I’ve often wondered about that myself. The same also applies to Bill “Falafel” O’ Reilly. Those people have been caught doing and saying so many stupid and embarassing things so many times, they should’ve disappeared from the airwaves years ago. Yet, there they are, still with a loyal and credulous flock of listeners who devoutly tune in every weekday.

That’s not the amazing part. The amazing part is that they swallow every bit as if it were Gospel w/o critically analyzing anything and/or seeking out other sources. I mean, I love watching Olbermann, but I understand that at times, he’s a raving lune. 😃

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/75 "2009-01-31T01:04:20Z")

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I reckon **Sinaijon** is so far up Rush’s arse he can see **Shodan’s** feet.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/76 "2009-01-31T01:08:39Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Bullies always seem to attract hoards of devoted weak willed toadies.

Ignorance is strength. If what you’re concerned about is ideological purity, then anyone who questions you is going to go by the wayside. Rush & Co. are **not** interested in debating what’s best for America, they’re interested in **controlling** the debate. They want to frame it in a manner such that if someone disagrees with them (even if they share similar goals), that person has to spend so much time dealing with other matters that they _can’t_ move the discussion forward in a meaningful manner.

That’s one of the greatest damages that Bush caused to the conservative movement. By being such a drooling dolt, he so tainted his end of the political spectrum, that arguments put forth from a conservative perspective automatically get a “Bush tried that and it didn’t work!” response, even if its **not** an accurate statement.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/77 "2009-01-31T01:40:44Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Bullies always seem to attract hoards of devoted weak willed toadies.

Is that a mnemonic, like “Oh, Be A Fine Girl, Kiss Me (Right Now Smack)” ?  
It sure sounds like one.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/78 "2009-01-31T02:04:56Z")

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A stellar joke, sir, stellar.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/79 "2009-01-31T02:15:47Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> Pay attention to thread. I am simply **mocking Shayna** because that’s her basis on why Franken is more qualified than Limbaugh…

– bolding mine.

You may _think_ that’s what you were doing, in a “make our own reality” kind of sense. But I hate to tell you that the one that’s coming off as a fucktard is _not_ **Shayna**.

Well, on second thought, not really, no. I don’t mind one bit telling you what a complete and utter imbecile you are. In fact, you’re the very definition of a [moran](http://fealitall.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/get-a-brain-morans.jpg).

Affectaciously,  
~NickInUpperLeftCorner

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-gop-why-are-some-still-licking-the-boots-of-rush-limbaugh/483688/80 "2009-01-31T03:16:57Z")

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I am now having a visual nightmare of Regards, Shodan, our neighbourhood racist troll, fellating Rush Limbaugh.

Need to scrub brain with acid, thanks.

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