# To: The NYC mob of "planned civil disobedience" FUCK YOU

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 27, 2003, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545 "2003-03-27T15:56:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/21 "2003-03-27T18:28:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \*  
> \*\*So, we’re obstructionist assholes.
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> Boo-hoo.\*\*

So tell me: are you against the American government, or the people? Seeing as how it’s the _people_ that you insist on obstructing and interfering with, I’d have to say it’s them. Unless you’re camping on the doorstep of the Capitol, I’m pretty sure those who are actually running the war that you are allegedly all worked up about probably don’t give a rat’s ass what you have to say about it.

Since your primary target for “protest” _is_ the common citizen (that is, the person most likely to be affected), why are you surprised that the common citizen thinks you’re a Grade A schmuck when you pull your little stunts?

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/22 "2003-03-27T18:32:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by MLS \*  
> \*\*what if an ambulance or fire truck needs to get through there? \*\*

It should go. Police NOT stopping traffic for people who are _breaking the law_ by laying down in public thoroughfares would end this bullshit pretty quick, I think.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/23 "2003-03-27T18:41:13Z")

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Aside from the violent “non-violent” protesters, I think it’s wonderful that the countries in the middle east that we’re dealing with and trying to “liberate” can be an audience to the freedom available in our society that allows a non-violent protest to take place without violent repurcussion.

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**Author:** ![DrLizardo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@DrLizardo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrLizardo)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/24 "2003-03-27T18:51:28Z")

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Gotta agree with Munch. Much as I think these folks are morons who are doing their own (stated) agenda a disservice by their actions, I don’t advocate being violent with them.

Pick 'em up, throw 'em in the paddy wagon on off to the slammer with 'em (or at least the holding tank until they’re charged), but I agree that our ability to NOT whack 'em in the head or shoot rubber bullets at 'em is part of what defines us as a society.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/25 "2003-03-27T18:51:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Darwin’s Finch \*  
> \*\*So tell me: are you against the American government, or the people? Seeing as how it’s the _people_ that you insist on obstructing and interfering with, I’d have to say it’s them. Unless you’re camping on the doorstep of the Capitol, I’m pretty sure those who are actually running the war that you are allegedly all worked up about probably don’t give a rat’s ass what you have to say about it.
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> Since your primary target for “protest” _is_ the common citizen (that is, the person most likely to be affected), why are you surprised that the common citizen thinks you’re a Grade A schmuck when you pull your little stunts? \*\*

Shhhhh, stop making so much sense, you’re liable to make their heads explode.

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**Author:** ![deball](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@deball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deball)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/26 "2003-03-27T19:17:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \*  
> \*\*So, we’re obstructionist assholes.
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> \*\*

I totally support your right to _peaceful_ protest. But, these traffic blocking tactics are like a baby throwing a temper tantrum. All they need are giant diapers.

I hope some mom, while rushing her child to the emergency room, makes modern art out of these brainwashed “protesters.”

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**Author:** ![jonpluc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/fbc32d/32.png) [@jonpluc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jonpluc)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/27 "2003-03-27T19:42:21Z")

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If we really do end up finding tons of WMDs, will all the protesters promise to send a personal letter of apology to all the peoples lives that they made very difficult by being wrong?

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**Author:** ![MLS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/919ad9/32.png) [@MLS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MLS)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/28 "2003-03-27T19:51:07Z")

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Missy2U – O’Reilly is usually pretty good about not passing along stuff without substantiation. But if it was last night, he obviously wasn’t talking about anything happening in NYC today, which was what I thought I read.

It is really ridiculous when to see photos of folks with “End Violence” or whatever on their placard hauling off and belting somebody.

FWIW, I am generally a peaceful and non-violent person. After 9/11 I would have lit the fuse on an ICBM myself, and would support anything that sends the message DONT F\*CK WITH US.

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**Author:** ![UnwrittenNocturne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/6de8d8/32.png) [@UnwrittenNocturne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UnwrittenNocturne)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/29 "2003-03-27T19:53:22Z")

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Further to this I notice that The Australian carried pictures of the Sydney protests. All the banners and placards I could see were scrawled with ‘Socialist Workers’ and ‘Socialist Alliance’

_sigh_

not really a suprise

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/30 "2003-03-27T20:14:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jonpluc \*  
> \*\*If we really do end up finding tons of WMDs, will all the protesters promise to send a personal letter of apology to all the peoples lives that they made very difficult by being wrong? \*\*

After a week and a half of hearing this argument, it still doesn’t pan out. The possible presence of WMD isn’t the only justification that the Bush administration is giving for this war. If weapons do appear, are all the pro-war supporters going to send personal letters of apology to the weapon inspectors for not letting them do their jobs? Same argument, different application, same bullshit reasoning.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/31 "2003-03-27T21:26:40Z")

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> I’d say the anti-American ignorant fucks are those who are more up in arms over a traffic delay then their government killing brown people in their name;

Actually, Iraqis are not brown; they’re Caucasian. You know, reading your sentence again, you look like such a racist in that skin color matters to you so much that you make it an issue, and a fictitious one at that.

And again, you and your confreres act like elitist goons, alienating the very people you should be converting. No wonder you are incapable of developing a sufficiently powerful political base in this country.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/32 "2003-03-27T21:39:05Z")

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I don’t think so, Munch. _IF_ WMD are found when Iraq swore that it didn’t have any then they have been engaged in an ongoing attempt to hide them from the inspectors and thus there is no guarantee that they would ever have found any WMD ( if the deception continued to be successful ) no matter how long they “inspected”. I think it leands credence to the position that the inspectors were a waste of time considering how the Iraqi’s limited their access to Iraq.

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**Author:** ![Daoloth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@Daoloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daoloth)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/33 "2003-03-27T21:41:46Z")

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[Fuck these assholes.](http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1583064.php)

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**Author:** ![DreadCthulhu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DreadCthulhu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DreadCthulhu)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/34 "2003-03-27T21:46:49Z")

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“Can’t we all just get along?”

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/35 "2003-03-27T21:57:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Daoloth \*  
> \*\*[Fuck these assholes.](http://www.indybay.org/news/2003/03/1583064.php) \*\*

That first pic is what our troops should do to violent protesters (only the violent ones) before they spit in their hypocritical faces and push them out the door over Iraq.

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**Author:** ![Sauron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Sauron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sauron)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/36 "2003-03-27T22:30:09Z")

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A photo caption from the above link: “The crowd kept getting boxed in so the only way to move was to run.”

I’ve read this six times. I still have no idea what it means.

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**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/37 "2003-03-28T02:52:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by The Ace of Swords \*  
> \*\*I’d say the anti-American ignorant fucks are those who are more up in arms over a traffic delay then their government killing brown people in their name; Or the 47% who think Saddam and 9/11 are linked; or ignorant twits like **Wyld Stallyn** who thinks bashing in the heads of non-resisting protestors with a baseball bat is the right thing to do. \*\*

I got a fever, and the only cure, is more cliches! **Ace** you are a fool.

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**Author:** ![Lissa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lissa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissa)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/38 "2003-03-28T03:15:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gobear \*  
> \*\*The sad thing is that the antiwar movement is being led by a coterie of self-righteous, uninformed, anti-American twits who do not care who they fuck over and who they inconvenience as long as they get their pictures in the paper. Assmonkeys.
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> It’s enough to make the shades of Gandhi, MLK, and Bertrand Russell weep with frustration at their legacy of active resistance being pissed on by these fatuous morons. \*\*

Didn’t MLK’s Selma to Motgomery march block traffic as well? Pictures of police beating the protesters on the Edmund Pettus Bridge show a lack of traffic.

Was MLK a moron for interrupting the smooth flow of traffic?

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**Author:** ![Rhum\_Runner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rhum\_Runner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhum_Runner)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/39 "2003-03-28T03:27:07Z")

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Is Selma Alabama of the 1960s the same thing as NYC in 2003?

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**Author:** ![Banger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@Banger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banger)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-nyc-mob-of-planned-civil-disobedience-fuck-you/164545/40 "2003-03-28T05:17:58Z")

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Can people file for a permit to lie down and block traffic?

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