# To the overweight, white trash bitch in the Trans Am...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 24, 2003, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906 "2003-06-24T01:06:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/41 "2003-06-24T17:41:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Toaster52 \*  
> \*\*\<snip\>"…the only part of the OP that is offensive is the dig at the **woman’s** appearance:…\<snip\>
> 
> bolding mine  
> Ummmm…yep got it right.
> 
> HER appearance
> 
> not _anybody_ else’s
> 
> hers alone
> 
> solo
> 
> unique
> 
> lone
> 
> single
> 
> by herself
> 
> how many ways can I describe it? The OP was ranting about THAT ONE PERSON and THAT ONE PERSON ALONE!!!
> 
> Nobody else!!
> 
> Geez, my sister is 5’ 2" and weighs 240 pounds and yet, somehow, I never got the impression that he was insulting her.
> 
> \<snip\>"…there are no **groups** of people that it is ok to stereotype."\<snip\>
> 
> _re-reads OP again_
> 
> nope…no groups mentioned here at all…just one person… \*\*

Ah, I get it. I suppose he was cut off by several people in Trans Ams that day and he had to describe her appearance just so he could make it clear which one he was talking about.

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**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/42 "2003-06-24T17:48:10Z")

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:eek:

Whoooakay. In that case, I am a lipo-retentive, vertically challenged, aesthetically hardshipped, socio-economically disadvantaged, mobile habitat dwelling…

Some, but not all of those things.

I’m Irish…and I drink. SOMEBODY’S going to find a way to make that hilarious.  
I have red hair. SOMEBODY thinks that makes me loose.  
On and on.

Some of us cannot be separated from the lower animals. Some of us are separated from them because animals make better people.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/43 "2003-06-24T18:07:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by 2trew \*  
> \*\*Ah, I get it. I suppose he was cut off by several people in Trans Ams that day and he had to describe her appearance just so he could make it clear which one he was talking about. \*\*

Oh for the love of Pete.

I’ll say this reeeeeaaaaal slow, so you can follow mmkay?

He. Was. Telling. A. Story.

That typically involves Painting. A. Picture.

That typically involves Describing. The. Scene.

THAT typically involves Using. Descriptive. Words.

What the ever loving FUCK do you expect him to say?

“The female homosapien driving the automobile on the road that did something not-so-nice, really made me angry.”

Well _that’s_ a hell of a rant, isn’t it?

There are not enough :rolleyes: in the world…

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/44 "2003-06-24T18:11:15Z")

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**Toaster52** , let us assume for a moment that the OP using the term “overweight” gets a pass. After all, it is just descriptive. We still have the problem of white trash. I would hope that you can see that calling someone an overweight whit trash bitch could easily be seen as offensive.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/45 "2003-06-24T18:15:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by wakimika \*  
> Um, my point was that it is a _rant_.
> 
> I didn’t think I would need to explain. I would have said fat or obese or blobular or fuck knows what. The idea is to be insulting after all.

Incorrect, oh stupid but idiotic one. The idea is that you are _allowed_ to be insulting (to a point). However, that does not mean you are required to (viz my recent pit thread about The Girl).

That said (and, of course, my name added to the “Fat!=bad, so stop making it out to be” list), people who don’t share the road with other vehicles are not on my Happy Fun List.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/46 "2003-06-24T18:17:25Z")

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Not if she IS. Usually, people determine whether or not someone is white trash by their appearence, if they don’t know them. It’s also a VERY effective way of describing someone’s overall “look.” As the OP was doing.

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**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/47 "2003-06-24T18:17:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by lezlers \*  
> \*\*Oh for the love of Pete.
> 
> I’ll say this reeeeeaaaaal slow, so you can follow mmkay?
> 
> He. Was. Telling. A. Story.
> 
> That typically involves Painting. A. Picture.
> 
> That typically involves Describing. The. Scene.
> 
> THAT typically involves Using. Descriptive. Words.
> 
> What the ever loving FUCK do you expect him to say?
> 
> “The female homosapien driving the automobile on the road that did something not-so-nice, really made me angry.”
> 
> Well _that’s_ a hell of a rant, isn’t it?
> 
> There are not enough :rolleyes: in the world… \*\*

Right, that would explain why he mentioned her hair colour, what she was wearing, and that lovely depiction of the street scene surrounding the incident.

Oh, wait, that wasn’t there, just the fact she was overweight and a reference to her bloated cottage cheese ass. How could I ever have mistaken that for an expression of and appeal to prejudice?

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**Author:** ![Fin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@Fin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fin_man)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/48 "2003-06-24T18:19:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Binarydrone \*  
> \*\*I would hope that you can see that calling someone an overweight whit trash bitch could easily be seen as offensive. \*\*

Yes, it should be seen as offensive **to the person it was describing, the human being operating the motor vehicle in question**. It is **NOT** and insult to anybody else.

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**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/49 "2003-06-24T18:22:49Z")

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I’m new and all…but isn’t the Pit where you are supposed to rant and rave and get out your frustration in a healthy way then log off your computer and get back to your life feeling better for doing so?

If one must edit their frustration and anger, what is the point?

“To the overweight, white trash bitch in the Trans Am”

Uh, oh…better take out overweight.

“To the white trash bitch in the Trans Am”

Whoops…better try again.

“To the bitch in the Trans Am”

Okay…one more time…

“To the person in the car who did the thing that made me mad”

Just not helping deal with the frustration IMHO…

YMMV 😉

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**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/50 "2003-06-24T18:28:12Z")

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Hey! Don’t knock the OP. It’s been at least two days since somebody gave the _Professional Offenderati_ an opportunity to rally to the cause. They were getting a bit restless and needed an excuse to saddle up and ride.

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**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/51 "2003-06-24T18:28:29Z")

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I’m new and all…but isn’t the Pit where you are supposed to rant and rave and get out your frustration in a healthy way then log off your computer and get back to your life feeling better for doing so?

If one must edit their frustration and anger, what is the point?

“To the overweight, white trash bitch in the Trans Am”

Uh, oh…better take out overweight.

“To the white trash bitch in the Trans Am”

Whoops…better try again.

“To the bitch in the Trans Am”

Okay…one more time…

“To the person in the car who did the thing that made me mad”

Just not helping deal with the frustration IMHO…

YMMV 😉

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**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/52 "2003-06-24T18:30:34Z")

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TheFunkySpaceCowboy, I think its fairly obvious that you have insulted several overweight, white trash bitches who drive Trans Ams on this board. I suppose even though this is the Pit, the overweight white trash bitches who drive Trans Ams on this board will demand an apology regardless. Because heaven forbid insulting the white trash bitches who drive Trans Ams on this board, whomever they may be.

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**Author:** ![andymurph64](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e57/32.png) [@andymurph64](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andymurph64)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/53 "2003-06-24T18:31:43Z")

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Damn straight a bike is a vehicle and entitled to the road. That is why they should pay $400 per year for a license and be required to have ‘auto’ insurance.

Bikes…if you are taking a lane, I hope you get dusted. I don’t want you to die or have permanent injury but I also want you off the damn road. Traffic is bad enough around here without slow moving bikes cloggin things up worse.

What really gets my goat is bikes who decide they are a vehicle and take up a lane but then decide they are not a vehicle and bypass large amounts of cars at stop lights and such. All if a sudden, when they get past the stopped cars they are a vehicle again taking up a lane. Which is it? Are you a vehicle or a bike? Choose. Don’t be flipping back and forth.

Heck, don’t choose. Just get the hell off the road. Hug the curb if you must be on the road but stop making rush hour worse.

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**Author:** ![Incubus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Incubus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Incubus)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/54 "2003-06-24T18:35:16Z")

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TheFunkySpaceCowboy, I think its fairly obvious that you have insulted several overweight, white trash bitches who drive Trans Ams on this board. I suppose even though this is the Pit, the overweight white trash bitches who drive Trans Ams on this board will demand an apology regardless. Because heaven forbid insulting the overweight white trash bitches who drive Trans Ams on this board, whomever they may be.

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**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/55 "2003-06-24T18:53:13Z")

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Okay hamsters…cut it out!

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**Author:** ![Binarydrone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Binarydrone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Binarydrone)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/56 "2003-06-24T19:25:25Z")

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Look:

Overweight=descriptive term, could be seen as necessary if the post was, well, descriptive in nature. Same with the Trans-Am. They can help to paint the scene.

White Trash=pejorative term, stereotyping a group based on perceived socio-economic shortcomings. Not necessary to use.

Now wasn’t that simple?

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/57 "2003-06-24T19:28:54Z")

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**Binarydrone** : gay and black are also descriptive terms. Let’s examine something:

To the black, trashy bitch in the Trans Am

To the gay, white trash bitch in the Trans Am

Sensing something ever so slightly offensive about those two things?🙂

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**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/58 "2003-06-24T19:48:25Z")

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When BBJ used the phrase"white trash" here the “Professional Offenderati” came out in droves to slam her.  
(wonderful expression by the way. Thank you, JCoM)  
I’m wondering where the rest of that brigade are today.  
I’m not defending the use of the expression “white trash” mind you, but it’s remarks like this that make me doubt the sincere and righteous indignation of Techchick68:

> [@](#):
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> … Hahahaha, people don’t learn.

It reminds me of Nelson in the Simpsons and smacks more of bullying than anything else.

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**Author:** ![Aries28](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Aries28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aries28)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/59 "2003-06-24T19:56:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jlzania \*  
> **When BBJ used the phrase"white trash" here the “Professional Offenderati” came out in droves to slam her.**

AMEN!!! In fact, I haven’t seen BBJ around on the boards since that whole nonsense went on.

In a rant I don’t see why one can’t use descriptive terms to describe ONE specific person or incident that pissed them off if it gets them over it and moving on to something else.

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**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-overweight-white-trash-bitch-in-the-trans-am/183906/60 "2003-06-24T20:02:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by jlzania \*  
> \*\*When BBJ used the phrase"white trash" here the “Professional Offenderati” came out in droves to slam her.  
> (wonderful expression by the way. Thank you, JCoM)  
> I’m wondering where the rest of that brigade are today…  
> \*\*

It’s Tuesday. We have worked a deal with the people who leap out of the shadows screaming “ORWELL! THOUGHT POLICE!” and explaining how it’s impossible to pit someone for being ignorant, incompetent, and inconsiderate without raving about them also being fat white trash. On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays we leave only a skeleton staff, and they do the same on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Saturdays. It frees up a lot of time for the organizational meetings.

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