# To the skinny knacker that asked me for my "Spare Change"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 23, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342 "2003-07-23T07:54:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tarantula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@Tarantula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarantula)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/101 "2003-07-24T12:07:52Z")

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Oh - and I have been pitted. It wasn’t all that hoot-ful. One lives in hope.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/102 "2003-07-24T12:16:23Z")

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> The is because of the band-wagon jumping that takes place as soon as I say it like it is.

Oh just fuck off. Martyrs’ crosses are so 2000 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Tarantula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@Tarantula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarantula)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/103 "2003-07-24T12:22:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> **Oh just fuck off.**

Always an arrgument winner. When you’re 7.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/104 "2003-07-24T12:27:55Z")

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Quick someone call the Paddy Wagon !

\>\>\>\> Exit stage right. Persued by green clad, EuroTrash

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**Author:** ![Tarantula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@Tarantula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarantula)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/105 "2003-07-24T12:30:48Z")

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Exeunt. I hope.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/106 "2003-07-24T12:40:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tarantula \*  
> \*\*Always an arrgument winner. When you’re 7.
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> :rolleyes: \*\*

oh, and claiming that you’re “telling it like it is” and other have to “get with the programme” is the height of intellectual discourse?

You have no interest in actually debating anything, you just assume that you are right and everyone else is an imbicile for not agreeing with you.

one again, just fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Tarantula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@Tarantula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarantula)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/107 "2003-07-24T12:49:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> \*\*oh, and claiming that you’re “telling it like it is” and other have to “get with the programme” is the height of intellectual discourse?
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> You have no interest in actually debating anything, you just assume that you are right and everyone else is an imbicile for not agreeing with you.
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> one again, just fuck off. \*\*

have you got a point ? Or are we finished here ?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/108 "2003-07-24T13:08:56Z")

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Speaking of buskers (like we were a few pages ago), if you’re in the Grafton Street area this afternoon, check out the two young lads in front of Brown Thomas - one with an acoustic guitar and one with an electric. They’re superb. They get a spontaneous round of applause every time they finish a song, and an actual queue of people to put money in their guitar case.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/109 "2003-07-24T13:24:36Z")

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I have just been out for my lunch in sunny(ish) London , and have come to this conclusion:

Beggars: make your own mind up.

Middle class student cunts in tabards asking if I could spare five minutes for Cancer research/blind elephants/the baby jesus/cats with cancer etc: These people should be flensed and then dipped in boiling vinegar. And while qwe’re at it those pile-suckers who pretend to be statues? Fuck them and the horses they rode in on. Standing still is NOT a fucking talent you cock-knockers. Get haircuts and jobs.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/110 "2003-07-24T13:34:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \*  
> **And while qwe’re at it those pile-suckers who pretend to be statues? Fuck them and the horses they rode in on. Standing still is NOT a fucking talent you cock-knockers.**

Agreed. It’s actually worse than mimes, who at least are trying to do something.

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**Author:** ![Tarantula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@Tarantula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarantula)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/111 "2003-07-24T13:39:57Z")

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**owlstretchingtime** - agreed. The “fucker that paints himself blue” that I spoke of a few pages ago is one. What a wanker.

As one comedian said. “Take out a few euros from your pocket. Then walk up to his cash-basket, bend slightly, and then freeze with the cash still in your hand. - See if he thinks _you’re_ any good…”

hee hee…

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/112 "2003-07-24T13:48:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \*  
> \*\*Middle class student cunts in tabards asking if I could spare five minutes for Cancer research/blind elephants/the baby jesus/cats with cancer etc: These people should be flensed and then dipped in boiling vinegar. And while qwe’re at it those pile-suckers who pretend to be statues? Fuck them and the horses they rode in on. Standing still is NOT a fucking talent you cock-knockers. Get haircuts and jobs. \*\*

Tell me about it. Problem is, it _is_ a job. They’re on commission. These shitpots stand outside my office _all day every day_. It’s a different set of fuckers every day, too, so every morning when I go out for a cigarette I say “I work here and I come out here for my cigarette all the time, so please don’t accost me”. Yesterday, this doofus heard my spiel, nodded, and then and then went into his patter anyway for fucking hours. When I told him I’d done charity sector work myself, but voluntarily, he proceeded to tell me how much commission he was on and how he was creaming at least €500 a week take-home out of people; this despite him still having a holier-than-thou attitude coz he was working for charity. Spunkbubble.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/113 "2003-07-24T19:09:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tarantula \*  
> \*\*The 😃 is because of the band-wagon jumping that takes place as soon as I say it like it is. \*\*

Well, to me, the 😃 reads as you being amused because you have stirred the shit pot. From that thread and this thread, I am given the impression that you like to deliberately push people’s buttons. You aren’t interested in getting other views at all and you could easily say your piece in a less confrontational manner. But hey, that wouldn’t so _amusing_ to you, would it?

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**Author:** ![Delly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Delly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delly)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/114 "2003-07-24T22:29:02Z")

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Ruadh, sorry yes I did mean some of them not all of them.

TwistofFate,

I dont know how many it was built for, its been around longer then I have.

As for available amenities yes there are toilets and water facilities.  
As for the Educational reading, If its to tell me that they dont actually call themselves that, then Im not interested, I know what Ive heard. Anyway its not like I use the word, it just doesnt bother me so much if other people do.

🙂

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/115 "2003-07-25T08:04:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tarantula \*  
> **The 😃 is because of the band-wagon jumping that takes place as soon as I say it like it is.**

There’s where you’re wrong, old chap. What you actually do is say it like _you think_ it is. This opinion is disagreeable to some people, and your manner disagreeable to many. Hence the general ire directed towards you.

Jeez, you’d have hoped Trinity was producing better debate than this these days.

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**Author:** ![Tarantula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@Tarantula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarantula)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/116 "2003-07-25T09:19:44Z")

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I went to UCD.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/117 "2003-07-25T09:40:58Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tarantula \*  
> \*\*I went to UCD. \*\*

Apologies.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/118 "2003-07-25T09:46:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jjimm \*  
> \*\*Tell me about it. Problem is, it _is_ a job. They’re on commission. These shitpots stand outside my office _all day every day_.

Most of them are. The _Concern_ ones aren’t. They’re on a set wage. There was a segment on Morning Ireland about it a week or two ago.

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**Author:** ![Tarantula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e274bd/32.png) [@Tarantula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarantula)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/119 "2003-07-25T09:54:27Z")

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Since we seem to be on the subject, I never actually give to the Concern guys on the street, or indeed any of the charity workers. It’s not that i think they’re _all_ scamming bastards, but I don’t trust them all the same. I have a Direct Debit set up on my account that goes every month to Concern (the only charity that I actually donate to). It’s not a big amount, but it is many, many times the €2.00 they’re always shiteing on about…

Anyway, the problem is that I live in the City Centre (D.2) and I walk Grafton st, & Stephens Green, twice a day, every day. These charity dudes approach me everyday and start saying their usual crap. I have explained that I give my money by Direct Debit, but they still do it. These people must recognize me - I pass them everyday. It makes me feel like a prick - just walking by them.

None of the other people on the street know that I give by DD, they just think I’m an ignorant prick. It’s not my fault. If I was to give €1.00 to each of them, twice a day, thats about 10 people x 2 x (at least) 5 days per week x (at least) 48 weeks a year. Thats  
10 x 2 x 5 x 48. Thats nearly 5,000 on top of what I already donate. I can’t afford that !

Anyway, just me going off on another one…

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2003, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-skinny-knacker-that-asked-me-for-my-spare-change/190342/120 "2003-07-25T09:56:46Z")

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So far I’ve been approached by _Concern_, _Gorta_, _Debra Butterfly Kids_ and _Amnesty_. Since I have a direct debit to two of them already and **mrs jjimm** is a member of a third, I tell them they can have a donation. Which they’re not allowed to accept. BWA HAA HAA HAAAA.

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