# To the Two Loons

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [April 9, 2006, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934 "2006-04-09T07:50:29Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/101 "2006-04-11T01:37:36Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Four years of thinking is not that long of a time. You’re eighteen if memory serves. Why not wait a few more years yet before arriving at any conclusions.

And don’t put too much faith in the Mayan Calendar. The ancient Mayan city of Palenque contains a reference to a date that translates to October 10, 4772.

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### Author: ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/102 "2006-04-11T01:45:15Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> And don’t put too much faith in the Mayan Calendar. The ancient Mayan city of Palenque contains a reference to a date that translates to October 10, 4772.

Isn’t that when the Cubs are supposed to win the Series?

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### Author: ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/103 "2006-04-11T01:58:53Z")

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> [@bigpappadiaz](#):
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> After a good 4 years of thinking about “it all” I finally came to that conclusion, mmmkay? It really did require a lot of thinking, which is why I’m not jumping down your throat that you can’t see it, too.

Some years ago, I was the supervisor of one section at a military personnel office overseas. One of the workers was a civilian employee. That worker, when I instructed her to perform a particular task following my instructions instead of the way she had been doing it, said to me, “Petty Officer Monty, I have been doing this job a very long time.” My response to her was, “I am not interested in how long you have been doing it wrong.”

Perhaps you can prove you have even an iota of critical thinking and tell us what the point of that story I just related is for you.

BTW, “counterattack” in my earlier posting should have been “counter.”

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### Author: ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/104 "2006-04-11T02:08:07Z")

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I really do not understand why so many people are getting upset about BPD (you really gotta change that name dude, no way I’m calling an 18 year old “BigPapa”). For fuck sake he is only 18.

I remember this guy that used to post here named Ilsa Lund. I hated that fucker with the heat of a thousand suns. Every time he posted I would see red. One day he confessed that he was only 16. From that day on I never got upset and I stopped hating him.

Shit kids are entitled too a lot of slack from us jaded fuckers. Its a great time in BPD’s life. He has been thinking long and hard about life and right now he thinks he has it figured out. He will realize soon enough that the answers are not as simple as he thinks.

But untill then, sure try to disabuse him of his wacky theories, but for fuck sake save the outrage (I’m talking to you Xploder) for people who deserve it.

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### Author: ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/105 "2006-04-11T02:25:25Z")

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> like the nature of tornadoes and hurricanes

Ooooooh! I can’t wait for this one!

Also:

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> AP calculus

Bwaaaaaaaahahahahaha. Get back to me when you’ve had some structural failure math instead of fucking conic sections.

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### Author: ![bigpappadiaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a698b9/32.png) [@bigpappadiaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bigpappadiaz)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/106 "2006-04-11T02:31:40Z")

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> I really do not understand why so many people are getting upset about BPD (you really gotta change that name dude, no way I’m calling an 18 year old “BigPapa”). For fuck sake he is only 18.

Yeah! Yeah!

Sorry, sounded like one of those moments where a flunky was needed in the background. I’m self-smarted. [Anyone want to question my intelligence?](http://www.fugly.com/videos/5094/self-smarter.html)

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> He will realize soon enough that the answers are not as simple as he thinks.

They’re not that simple. You’ll see, anyways. 😃 Anyone wanna take bets the depression isn’t gonna happen?

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### Author: ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/107 "2006-04-11T02:50:50Z")

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> He seems like a nice enough guy. A nice enough guy who would also eat your liver.

Stupid fucking quote. That’s Ricky from _Trailer Park Boys_, a Canadian comedy about a group of lovably inept losers who grow a lot of weed and go to jail a lot. Making Ricky (who is a teddy bear) seem psychotic is absolutely fucking moronic. He’s dumb as a post, sure, but his character is pretty gentle. The guy playing Ricky, incidentally, is one of the writers of the show.

It’s some funny shit. Netflix has it. Highly, highly recommended.

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### Author: ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/108 "2006-04-11T03:00:47Z")

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That video was hilarious BP thanks.

As to your whacky conspiracy theories, I often think they serve the same purpose as religion. For many folks it is impossible to think that there may be no rhyme or reason for why things happen. They cannot grasp that sometimes shit just happens. Or shit that happens is too complicated to understand. So they make up powerfull creatures that live in the sky or powerfull men who live in smoke filled back rooms, to explaine the inexplicable.

Conspiracy theorists, Religious fundamentalists its all the same.

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### Author: ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/109 "2006-04-11T03:10:40Z")

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> That video was hilarious BP thanks.

Just in case I didn’t make an explicit connection, that video is from _Trailer Park Boys_. Please resume the deserved dogpile as scheduled.

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### Author: ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/110 "2006-04-11T03:23:45Z")

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Well, shoot. Here I was all set to congratulate **bigpapadiaz** on his tenacity – pig-headed, wrong and sarcastic – but tenacity nevertheless. We seem to have intimidated **Sent** who hasn’t come back in three days, but **BPD** continued to fight the good fight.

Now I notice than he’s been BANNED sometime in the last 45 minutes or so.

Damn. I just spent my life savings on tinfoil futures.

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### Author: ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/111 "2006-04-11T03:25:22Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Just in case I didn’t make an explicit connection, that video is from _Trailer Park Boys_. Please resume the deserved dogpile as scheduled.

You need to be more explicit, I have no idea what you are talking about.

I don’t know why you characterize the dogpile as deserved. For fuck sake some of the long time posters are coming off as unbelievably self righteous. So BP has whacky ideas. Hes 18, that what 18 year olds have, whacky ideas.

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### Author: ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/112 "2006-04-11T03:43:01Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> So BP has whacky ideas. Hes 18, that what 18 year olds have, whacky ideas.

Whacky ideas from the whacky weed, perhaps. Kid or not, his postings were a bit too heavy on the tinfoil hattery for this board; besides, there was no way to engage him in a serious debate.

Besides, chemtrails and their believers are funny.

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### Author: ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/113 "2006-04-11T03:59:39Z")

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> You need to be more explicit, I have no idea what you are talking about.

Errr, try reading my post immediately above the post in which you thanked him for the video. It’s really not all that complicated.

And I have no sympathy for BP. I just had a 20 year old intern who was an infuriating know-it-all who believed in the most retarded conspiracy theories, including some that have been discussed here. He nearly drove me around the bend with his willful stupidity. BP is just like him. Hell, he may **be** him, for all I know.

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### Author: ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/114 "2006-04-11T04:19:29Z")

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::: sniff:::  
I guess I will never get to be **BPD**'s bitch. I was so looking forward to his reason why he could not complete the experiment, but how it wasn’t the same as the WTC.  
Oh well.

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### Author: ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/115 "2006-04-11T04:47:10Z")

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So long BPD.

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### Author: ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/116 "2006-04-11T04:50:33Z")

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I also was wondering what his cop-out would’ve been for the experiment. “All I could find was white chocolate and _margarine_!” perhaps?

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### Author: ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/117 "2006-04-11T06:07:25Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> So BP has whacky ideas. Hes 18, that what 18 year olds have, whacky ideas.

It wasn’t all that long ago that I was 18 myself, and even then, I wouldn’t have hesitated to call some like **BPD** a fucking moron.

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### Author: ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/118 "2006-04-11T06:08:17Z")

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Sent,

In post #391 of the GD thread, you essentially accused the US government of mass murdering those who died in the attacks on September 11, 2001. You have no evidence and you refuse to address the very evidence that proves your so-called theory false. Basically, you’re a disgusting twit.

Now, why would I call you that? Perhaps it’s the simple fact that your lies (I doubt they’re your own lies; it’s much more likely that you are just spreading (well, attempting to spread) them) are insults to the very many people who died on that date while they were simply going about their normal daily business. The lies you are spreading also are insults to the very many fine people who died in the rescue efforts on that date.

The lies you are spreading, without even a tangent to the idea of thought, evidence, or logic, are so stupidly junked-together that it’s quite probable that even the Flat Earthers look at you and your bunk and mutter, “Dude, that’s not even close to making sense.”

You have now accused the government of mass murder of its own citizens on September 11, 2001. I am now challenging you to “put up or shut up.”

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### Author: ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/119 "2006-04-11T06:14:10Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> I dunno. For a pitting, it was rather polite & matter of fact. I like more vitriol in my pittings. I want to actually feel the spittle flying out of my monitor, forcing me to wipe my face and declare, "wow, **Monty** ’s _pissed._

Does the posting (#118) above pass muster, levdrakon?

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### Author: ![Sent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Sent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sent)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2006, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-two-loons/351934/120 "2006-04-11T07:04:52Z")

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Seriously, how old are you people? I have to say that I don’t really like the idea of being brought into your “pit” where you apparently spend your days trying to tear people apart. I’m not going to stay here and keep bickering around, I’m just answering Monty’s request.

Fact: Genius always borders on insanity. Why ridicule people who you think are crazy? If you are as smart as you think you are you would not be sane. No matter how much you’ve delved into complexity in your life, you’ve survived only because you’ve been able to stay within a certain boundary of simplicity in your thinking. You should at least have pity on those you think are “insane”.

Fact: Even a child can show you things that in all your knowledge and intelligence you did not see.

Why do want me in this thread?

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