The complaints in the Olympics thread about competitors using stage names or even (gasp!) numbers were deeply idiotic. “Using a stage name delegitimizes it as a sport.” Says who? That’s just some random things you made up because it’s not how things were done back when you wore an onion on your belt.
Tell me you’re a crotchety old person without saying you’re a crotchety old person.
Ah, the monolithic Black community. “People are saying” indeed.
I’m sure some found her performance offensive. Does “many” mean a majority? A dozen?
When a sbuculture creates a new artistic genre (jazz, rap, samba, tejano, whatever), either it stays within the subculture, or it goes mainstream to some degree. Mainstream means success and recogniztion, but it also means that people outside the subculture will try it and have some influence on how it develops. I don’t think it’s realistic to try to have it both ways.
The Olympic motto is ‘faster higher stronger’.
Therefore I agree that means that judging ‘artistry’ should not be part of the current Olympics.
(To give an example, for me synchronised swimming is out, but holding your breath underwater would be in!)
Why not have a separate competition called the Artistic Olympics?!
I’m not old or crotchety. I can be cranky occasionally.
No other “sport” has stage names listed on the screen. Numbers or otherwise.
Nicknames are not for official scores. Fine for other times like street dancing or stage performances. But not an Olympic sport. If it were one.
This, the clothing gear, and musical interpretation will make it never be in the Olympics, IMO.
Who said Rhythm gymnastics was like breakdancing is wrong. Rhythm is the ribbon thing. The floor excercise in regular gym. is what you’re thinking of. But that has certain skills that must be accomplished. It’s very minimally self expression. Too much and you get deductions.
Olympians’s Got Talent?
(Disclaimer: I haven’t been watching the Olympics, and this thread is the first I’ve heard of it)
According to what rule book? Again that’s just something you made up.
For reasons.
Yes, I said that. And I know it’s the one done with ribbons/balls/clubs/hoops. I also know that it requires precision, fine muscle control, timing, hand/eye coordination, and a lot of other things that are not noticeable to a casual observer, not as forceful as Simone Biles flying around the uneven parallels. As with ballet, rhythmic gymnastics requires enormous effort to make every routine look effortless. And breakdancing also has that second layer to it: gotta follow the beat, but not with a pre-planned routine.
If you still don’t agree with me, okay, you don’t. But I’m not sure where you get the authority to declare things “wrong”.
Don’t soccer players routinely use nicknames?
Yes, I do.
And not only do I wish all judged events (figure skating, gymnastics, diving, half pipe etc) be removed, I will go farther, or further, and opine all team sports be removed. Olympics should be individual, measurable, challenges. Relay races are OK to keep.
I have spoken!
Yes, you are correct, I do feel the same way.
All of these should be removed from the Olympics. They are wonderful, great, artistic things. But they do not belong.
Yes, and particularly true of Brazilian players. Pelé, one of the greatest players of all time, was named Edson Arantes do Nascimento.
Apparently she beat every other woman from Australia who was interested in Breaking at the Olympics. No shit, she went in front of judges, did her routine, the others did their routines and they picked Raygun as “the best”.
Anyways, I think Breaking is no better or worse than other demonstration sports. The people who win were doing some fun stuff, let’s have more of that.
It’s not my cup of tea and had no desire to watch it, but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be an Olympic event. It certainly is an athletic endeavor
I hate to think Australia is so bad. But I guess they are.
At least 5 people on Twitter and one person on TikTok equals “many” apparently.
Well, now that the door is open, why not include square dancing, line dancing, jazzercise, ballet, tap dance, and the hokey-pokey?
I get why some may be defensive about the mocking of this new “sport” as it appeared in the Paris Olympics, but if this activity is going to be shown at the highest level of visibility in the world, you gotta expect some people will say it is out of place on such a stage. You either need to chill and accept the criticism along with the accolades, or, you know, shove off.
I watched a bit of it, but it was so repetitious, I got bored and moved on to other things. I did see a Lithuanian (Latvian?) girl who was so cringingly embarassing in her presentation I was almost surprised that she didn’t perform in blackface.
I’ll be shoving off now…
If those had the same gymnastic skills as breaking, I’d agree. I think you’re completely missing what sets breaking apart from every one of your examples.
Now, contemporary/lyrical dancing is similar to breaking in that you have a lot of gymnastic moves in it, and I think you could make a case for it in the Olympics.
I said before I’m a dance dad. My daughter not only takes dance lessons at her academy, but also tumbling due to that element being present in a couple of dance styles. Essentially, you have to do the same training you’d do for some of the existing Olympic events. That’s why they’re viable.