# To Trump haters - how would YOU have responded to this?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 24, 2017, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008 "2017-01-24T03:23:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/21 "2017-01-24T12:57:01Z")

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I don’t understand, you think that just because you don’t like Trump, it is your responsibility to calm down a complete stranger who is losing their shit and also doesn’t like Trump? You do understand that according to the latest Fox News poll, 55% of Americans don’t like Trump?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/22 "2017-01-24T13:01:39Z")

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You can’t have it both ways- being able to disassociate yourselves from the white supremacists who back your boy but demanding that we control the odd flakes on our side.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/23 "2017-01-24T13:11:48Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> You can’t have it both ways- being able to disassociate yourselves from the white supremacists who back your boy but demanding that we control the odd flakes on our side.

Good point, I’ll take on the nutty lady on the plane when the OP takes on the Klan.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/24 "2017-01-24T13:19:07Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Totally agree. Honestly, I have no idea why the OP addresses this question to “Trump haters”. It doesn’t matter what the ruckus is about – I recently read a very similar story about a Trump supporter obnoxiously crowing on a plane about The Great Election victory and disturbing many other passengers. Some people are just incurably stupid, and incurably stupid people with no self-control should not be on a plane flying on a regular scheduled airline.

Ok your right. I addressed this thread wrong.

And others are right in that crazy is crazy no matter who it comes from and any discussion, even if sympathetic, probably wouldnt solve anything. Best leave it to the crew.

As for myself I’ve never seen this on a plane but I have seen people removed from buses.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/25 "2017-01-24T13:22:20Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> You can’t have it both ways- being able to disassociate yourselves from the white supremacists who back your boy but demanding that we control the odd flakes on our side.

Aren’t you supposed to go high when they go low?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/26 "2017-01-24T13:35:29Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Aren’t you supposed to go high when they go low?

But if just once they didn’t go low.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/27 "2017-01-24T13:38:58Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Aren’t you supposed to go high when they go low?

Swing at air while getting punched in the balls? You first, coach.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/28 "2017-01-24T13:45:41Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Swing at air while getting punched in the balls? You first, coach.

I don’t follow.

I’ve heard _Democrats_ say “when they go low, we go high.” So isn’t the whole point that Democrats _already_ talk a good game about, uh, going high when someone else goes low? Why the heck would it be a question of anyone else going high first?

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**Author:** ![HumbleThinker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5daacb/32.png) [@HumbleThinker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HumbleThinker)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/29 "2017-01-24T14:25:03Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I don’t follow.
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> I’ve heard _Democrats_ say “when they go low, we go high.” So isn’t the whole point that Democrats _already_ talk a good game about, uh, going high when someone else goes low? Why the heck would it be a question of anyone else going high first?

I think you may be making the error of thinking all Democrats think that way just because that was a common slogan at rallies.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/30 "2017-01-24T14:29:31Z")

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> [@HumbleThinker](#):
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> I think you may be making the error of thinking all Democrats think that way just because that was a common slogan at rallies.

Well, and the Democratic candidate they voted for said it – reminded, as she was of, how Michelle Obama advised that. But possibly I missed the hue and cry from Dems hereabouts during the campaign? Did folks on this very board sneer at the sentiment back then, saying _uh, no, that’s a really stupid idea, and I reject it; why don’t you?_

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/31 "2017-01-24T14:33:51Z")

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Make a drinking game out of it. When they go low, you get high.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/32 "2017-01-24T14:41:21Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I don’t follow.
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> I’ve heard _Democrats_ say “when they go low, we go high.” So isn’t the whole point that Democrats _already_ talk a good game about, uh, going high when someone else goes low? Why the heck would it be a question of anyone else going high first?

Michelle Obama was talking about a method of tackling unruly Trump supporters: when someone else grabs their legs, we rush in and beat the shit out of their face.

Is that clear now?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/33 "2017-01-24T14:42:42Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Well, and the Democratic candidate they voted for said it – reminded, as she was of, how Michelle Obama advised that. But possibly I missed the hue and cry from Dems hereabouts during the campaign? Did folks on this very board sneer at the sentiment back then, saying _uh, no, that’s a really stupid idea, and I reject it; why don’t you?_

I also think you have a strange idea of going low. A snarky response to a snarky OP isn’t really going low. Cultivating racism to get votes, suppressing black voter turnout, colluding with the Russian government and bragging about sexual assault are all going low.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/34 "2017-01-24T14:47:20Z")

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> [@madmonk28](#):
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> I also think you have a strange idea of going low. A snarky response to a snarky OP isn’t really going low.

But is it going _high?_

(Er, **Ravenman** ’s quip aside, of course.)

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/35 "2017-01-24T14:55:30Z")

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Also, Newt Gingrich saying that Obama brings a Kenyan anti-colonial attitude to his world view; Rep. Joe Wilson yelling out “you lie!” during the presidents speech to Congress, Rep. Geogg Wilson calling President Obama “boy,” Rep. Doug Lamborn calling President Obama “tar baby,” and a Fox News Reporter calling the First Lady “Obama’s baby momma” are all examples of going low.

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**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/36 "2017-01-24T15:01:26Z")

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I kind of suspect that either way my political inclinations pointed, I’d be most irritated with someone who might possibly delay my flight or otherwise make the flight less pleasant than it could be.

Agreeing with someone’s political beliefs doesn’t mean that you support them when they’re being an asshole about it, especially when said assholery entails inconveniencing dozens of other people.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/37 "2017-01-24T15:24:17Z")

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I would have witnessed the ugliness and taken a long, hard look inside. Is this where our opposition to Trump has led us, I would wonder? All he wants is for us all to come together in unity. I would re-read all of the man’s teachings, and reflect on his selfless sacrifice. Two Trump-Vodka-scented tears would trickle down the sides of my nose and land on my gold lamé Trumpsuit. I would gaze up at the huge orange face, finally understanding what kind of brilliance was hidden beneath the flaxen combover. It would be all right, everything would be all right, the struggle would be finished. I would win the victory over myself. I would love Bigly Brother.

Then I’d probably go back to browsing Trump-branded products in _SkyMall_.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/38 "2017-01-24T15:32:46Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I would win the victory over myself. I would love Bigly Brother.

Beautiful.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/39 "2017-01-24T16:42:03Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Well, and the Democratic candidate they voted for said it – reminded, as she was of, how Michelle Obama advised that. But possibly I missed the hue and cry from Dems hereabouts during the campaign? Did folks on this very board sneer at the sentiment back then, saying _uh, no, that’s a really stupid idea, and I reject it; why don’t you?_

No, that was the voters that rejected civil discourse. They are the ones that said that it was a stupid idea, and rejected it, while embracing trump.

The dems tried to take the high road.

Apparently, it ends at a cliff with Trump at the bottom.

While I do not necessarily agree with lowering the level, it does seem that taking the high road is not a winning tactic.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-trump-haters-how-would-you-have-responded-to-this/778008/40 "2017-01-24T17:30:55Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> I kind of suspect that either way my political inclinations pointed, I’d be most irritated with someone who might possibly delay my flight or otherwise make the flight less pleasant than it could be.
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> Agreeing with someone’s political beliefs doesn’t mean that you support them when they’re being an asshole about it, especially when said assholery entails inconveniencing dozens of other people.

Yup. I tend to not want to lock myself in a crowded tube for several hours, 39,000 feet up in the air with absolutely no means of safe escape, with _anyone_ who’s going to be a disruptive, combative blowhard, no matter where they fall on the political spectrum or how much might I agree with them or not.

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