# To what degree do you believe in God ?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 28, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377 "2010-09-28T18:33:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/21 "2010-09-28T20:51:45Z")

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Deist where God = Universe (not quite, but close enough). No answer because I suspect that is not your definition of God.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/22 "2010-09-28T20:59:47Z")

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> [@Sal\_Ammoniac](#):
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> The nonexistence of god wins in a landslide!

Sure enough! The [religion](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion+) of atheism!

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**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/23 "2010-09-28T22:11:21Z")

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I’m a theist.

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**Author:** ![janeslogin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@janeslogin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/janeslogin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/24 "2010-09-28T22:12:13Z")

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I once read where some philosopher once said that selecting a category added too much credence to the other categories.

I am not simply not interested.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/25 "2010-09-28T22:18:40Z")

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Once again _[the Family Circus](http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/8374/familycircus1784.jpg)_ has already covered this topic

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/26 "2010-09-28T22:29:56Z")

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As I found dimes under my pillow as a child, I have considerably more evidence that the Tooth Fairy exists. Oh yeah, I woke up to presents at Christmas, so Santa Claus is marginally more plausible than God.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/27 "2010-09-28T22:33:44Z")

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I keep responding to these polls no matter how many of them we have, so I guess answerin’ anuduh one couldn’t hoit.

‘I simply do not believe in a god’ is closest to where I stand, although my true position is ‘gods don’t exist’ so, once again, the poll options are inadequate.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/28 "2010-09-28T22:41:45Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> As I found dimes under my pillow as a child, I have considerably more evidence that the Tooth Fairy exists. Oh yeah, I woke up to presents at Christmas, so Santa Claus is marginally more plausible than God.

Actually much more plausible, since the claims made about them aren’t nearly as extreme. “God” is unusually implausible even as gods go, what with all the omni-omni-omni stuff claimed about him.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/29 "2010-09-28T22:45:27Z")

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Eh, our house didn’t have a chimney, so Santa’s method of entry, at least, was pretty damn implausible.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/30 "2010-09-28T23:04:40Z")

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You presumably had air vents of some sort, they could serve. Just imagine Santa as a white-and-red version of the liquid metal Terminator.

Plus, you can show your kids _Terminator 2_ and claim they hired Santa Claus to play the part. “See kids? If you’re _good_, Santa brings presents. If you’re _bad_, metal spike though the eye!”

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/31 "2010-09-28T23:10:51Z")

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Ok, Santa beats God’s ass.

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/32 "2010-09-28T23:19:52Z")

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\*I believe as sure as 2 + 2 = 4 \*

1. 

😉

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/33 "2010-09-29T00:38:09Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> I voted “simply do not believe” but it is stronger than that - more “not bloody likely.”

. . . or in my case, “not bloody possible.”

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**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/34 "2010-09-29T00:56:42Z")

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With the exception of the Deist general concept;

All the gods I’ve seen proposed (including all the ones I know of that were generally discarded before I was born, and there were quite a lot): I simply don’t believe in them, not just because there is no evidence, but more strongly because they’re simply _unbelievable_, meaning I think their existence requires unimaginable amounts of evidence to be credible, given the plain reality of the world.

In addition, practically all of the proposed gods are not just _unbelievable_; they’re _immoral_, meaning they’re not _worthy_ of respect (for that sense of “belief”) even if they _did_ exist. They’re nothing more than bullies and liars that happen to be stronger than us.

The Deist “god” concept is the only one I know of where lack of evidence is the main objection. But the Deist “god” can hardly be called a god (and in my view, shouldn’t be called a god) at all, so I don’t really object to the possibility.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/35 "2010-09-29T01:06:11Z")

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As sure as 2+2=4

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/36 "2010-09-29T01:34:47Z")

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If asked “Is there a god?”, the only factual answer that one can give is, “I don’t know and neither does anyone else.”

If told “There is a god”, there is only one response that can be given: “Prove it”.

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**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/37 "2010-09-29T01:45:52Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> If asked “Is there a god?”, the only factual answer that one can give is, “I don’t know and neither does anyone else.”
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> If told “There is a god”, there is only one response that can be given: “Prove it”.

Luckily for you, neither is the question.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/38 "2010-09-29T10:48:52Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> If asked “Is there a god?”, the only factual answer that one can give is, “I don’t know and neither does anyone else.”
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> If told “There is a god”, there is only one response that can be given: “Prove it”.

Is that so…

So tell me…Assuming it can’t be proven that God exists, what would _that_ prove?

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/39 "2010-09-29T11:08:20Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> > [@Voyager](#):
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> > I voted “simply do not believe” but it is stronger than that - more “not bloody likely.”
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> . . . or in my case, “not bloody possible.”

Of course, the fact that this is wrong only demonstrates you have the _greatest_ of faiths.

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-what-degree-do-you-believe-in-god/555377/40 "2010-09-29T11:28:39Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> If asked “Is there a god?”, the only factual answer that one can give is, “I don’t know and neither does anyone else.”

If I asked if you if you believed in Santa Clause would you say “The only factual answer I can give…” or would you just say no? Keep in mind that there’s more evidence for the existence of Santa than there is for the existence of God.

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