# Today I had a nerdgasm - Fallout New Vegas

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 9, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103 "2010-11-09T22:53:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/21 "2010-11-10T16:17:26Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> maybe a Fallout:New Orleans.

> [@Sitnam](#):
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> It’d still be in good shape, no one would waste a nuke on it.

Large tracts would likely be underwater. No underground vaults east of Ponchatoula due to the low water table but other means of survival would exist. Wealthy families would get together to charter a couple of cruise ships and get the hell out to sea in September.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/22 "2010-11-10T16:23:43Z")

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I had the same thing with Fallout 3, especially since I’ve been playing it on and off the last few months before visiting DC for the Daily Show rally. I simply could not hear or read the name Falls Church without thinking that they took it from the game. Completely irrational, I know, but even so.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/23 "2010-11-10T16:29:55Z")

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Gameplay-wise, St. Louis would be a good location for another sequel. A good player could use the Monsanto building to expand on the Vault 22 quest; an evil player could choose to create another New Madrid quake.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/24 "2010-11-10T17:23:26Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> Large tracts would likely be underwater. No underground vaults east of Ponchatoula due to the low water table but other means of survival would exist. Wealthy families would get together to charter a couple of cruise ships and get the hell out to sea in September.

And the best part is that nobody’d need to drop a bomb on New Orleans to turn it into a depraved hellhole of corruption, crime, and chaos. It’s perfect for a Fallout game!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/25 "2010-11-10T17:53:34Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> I had the same thing with Fallout 3, especially since I’ve been playing it on and off the last few months before visiting DC for the Daily Show rally. I simply could not hear or read the name Falls Church without thinking that they took it from the game. Completely irrational, I know, but even so.

Yeah, when I hear Falls Church I immediately think “Do I have room in my inventory for suits of power armor?”

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/26 "2010-11-10T18:07:19Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> And the best part is that nobody’d need to drop a bomb on New Orleans to turn it into a depraved hellhole of corruption, crime, and chaos. It’s perfect for a Fallout game!

Two words: mutant gators.

Two motre words: voodoo ghouls.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/27 "2010-11-10T18:22:13Z")

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Fallout: Moscow

See the post-apocalyptic world through the perspective of those godless Reds.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/28 "2010-11-10T18:27:16Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I agree, but I’m not sure what the weapon choices would be like. I mean, I don’t think “Jolly Good Talking To” or “Strongly Worded Letter To The Editor” are going to do much good in VATS against one’s enemies, after all. 😛

Or perhaps “Stop! Or I’ll say stop again!”

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/29 "2010-11-10T18:28:58Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Fallout: Moscow
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> See the post-apocalyptic world through the perspective of those godless Reds.

Or Fallout: Shanghai, since the Reds in Fallout’s War were Chinese.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/30 "2010-11-10T18:36:59Z")

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> [@Illuminatiprimus](#):
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> So my respect for Bethesda/Obsidian has just gone from “very high” to “through the roof” for making not only an amazing and compelling game, but one that actually mimics reality so close that I, someone who has never set foot in Nevada, could probably navigate Las Vegas and its environs purely from playing FONV.
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> Has anyone else had this experience?

I’ve never played Fallout, but years ago I spent many an hour on the PC playing GTA: Vice City. When I later visited Miami for the first time, I had an almost disconcerting feeling of déjà vu and instinctively knew how to get around in the city.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/31 "2010-11-10T18:38:03Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Or Fallout: Shanghai, since the Reds in Fallout’s War were Chinese.

I forgot about that. What was Russia’s role in that war? Was that ever explained?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/32 "2010-11-10T18:42:53Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> I forgot about that. What was Russia’s role in that war? Was that ever explained?

I’m not sure they had a role. Searching for Russia in the [timeline](http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline) gets 0 results.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/33 "2010-11-10T19:00:06Z")

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Hmmm, talking of that Fallout timeline…Interstate 15 shouldn’t exist in the game, actually. It wasn’t built in Nevada until between 1963 and 1967, by which time the US had probably broken up into the Thirteen Commonwealths. What exists in the game as I-15 or “the Long 15” should really be US-91.

ETA: And definitely not I-215 and I-515, built in the 90’s.

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**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/34 "2010-11-10T19:32:58Z")

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I went to Paris in September, and found I knew were things were in relation to eachother. I was constantly recognizing things I hadn’t seen before. It took me looking for Nazi sniper towers and escape routes up buildings to realize it was The Saboteur that gave me the familiarity.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/35 "2010-11-10T19:43:03Z")

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> As you observe, 10mm isn’t actually that common in RL (.40 S&W is the more common calibre)- although when the first Fallout game was released 10mm was a “new” calibre and looked like it might displace 9mm In The Future (where the Fallout games are set, remember!), but .223 is an incredibly common calibre IRL- it’s the “Civilian” version of the military 5.56x45mm NATO round and the differences between them are pretty much for serious, dedicated gun enthusiasts to argue over and everyone else not to worry about, basically.

The .40 S&W is a 10mm. It uses the same caliber projectiles as the 10mm cartridge. In the alternate timeline, what we refer to as the .40 might well have been invented instead of the 10mm rather than derived from it. The people of that timeline might well refer to it as the 10mm. I kind of get the impression from having played Fallout 3 that the 10mm is the 9mm Parabellum of their world. That is to say, it’s been around for a long time and there’s an assload of guns designed to use it.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/36 "2010-11-10T19:49:36Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Fallout: Moscow
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> See the post-apocalyptic world through the perspective of those godless Reds.

It always seemed to me that on the Fallout boards there was a strong Russian following. I even saw a copy of the game in Russian available for sale on eBay once upon a time.

For my money, a traveling Fallout franchise would kick a lot more ass than the theme Monopoly sets. Like Cassidy, I too wonder if Texas survived the war.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/37 "2010-11-10T20:28:34Z")

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> [@MOIDALIZE](#):
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> Fallout: Moscow

Already exists. It’s called “Metro 2033”.

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/38 "2010-11-10T22:15:31Z")

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I was about to suggest “Fallout: Boston,” but then I imagined using the Pip-Boy 3000 to navigate the Bostonian “road” “system” and nearly killed myself. 😃

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/39 "2010-11-10T23:56:11Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> I wouldn’t mind a Fallout in Detroit.  
> …I set it up, guys. Come on, now.

Oh man, last week I drove through a neighborhood in Flint (MI’s _other_ hellhole city) and it seriously looked like something out of Fallout. The houses that weren’t flat out gone were split between burned out shells and run down ramshackle looking things that I’d rather be homeless than live in. There was even a half burned down semi-demolished elementary school.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/today-i-had-a-nerdgasm-fallout-new-vegas/560103/40 "2010-11-10T23:59:05Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> The .40 S&W is a 10mm. It uses the same caliber projectiles as the 10mm cartridge. In the alternate timeline, what we refer to as the .40 might well have been invented instead of the 10mm rather than derived from it. The people of that timeline might well refer to it as the 10mm. I kind of get the impression from having played Fallout 3 that the 10mm is the 9mm Parabellum of their world. That is to say, it’s been around for a long time and there’s an assload of guns designed to use it.

The cartridges in _Fallout_ are 10mm Auto IIRC, which is a different cartridge to .40 S&W even though it fires the same projectile. But I think you, myself, **Johnny L.A.** , **Bobotheoptimist** and **Todderbob** are the only people on the boards who actually care. 😉

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